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Collateral Rip-off Starring a B-List Actor


... complete with the gray suit with no tie, facial hair, and sunglasses.


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Same thing I thought. Collateral with inverted races.

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Same thought as well. Did Asylum produce this? ;)

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I also thought about this a little when I watched it a few weeks ago, yesterday I saw Sinners and Saints, there is even more Mann influence there lol and I am not just talking about street shootouts with aotomatic carbines and military tactics

the big street shootout ends with johnny strong executing one or two wounded guys already down moving a little (Miami Vice Tubbs trailer park shootout) then when Mandylor dude takes hostage he aims and shoots him in the head from close range (Hanna in the end of the downtown LA shootout)

Strong also says "look at me!" before executing the thug in the intro shootout (Mc Cauley doing Waingro at the hotel)

lol this kaufman dude likes mann a lot!!!

I say give the man a 15 mil budget!!






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Spot on! Just alot less believable than Collateral. No way one single guy should be able to walk into a police station and just open fire and make it to the holding area. Unless you are dealing with the dumbest/inept Precinct in the world.

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And with the hitman trying to make the other guy stand up for himself as he defends a woman he cares about at the end. They even had a scene in a jazz club! (Though they covered the word jazz with XXX.)

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He's a B-actor now. Look at his movies from the last five years. Too many Snow Dogs and Boat Trips on his credits have bumped him down to B-level.

It is what it is. I think he's a fine actor but time to realize he's b-rate all the way now.

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B-actor does not refer to pedigree. It's a status (a-list, b-list, etc.). He's on the b-list and now makes direct-to-DVD movies. Doesn't get any more b-rate than that.

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Nice reasoning. Everyone on this thread is ignorant for thinking that this is a "Collateral" rip-off because you, however unimportant you may be, don't agree that Gooding Jr has fallen off the A list?! Seems to me as silly and irrelevant as accusing everyone of being dumb for drawing parallels between red and auburn because one likes blondes.
It took me only a few minutes to confirm that pretty much the entire entertainment industry now considers Cuba Gooding a B-list actor; everyone seems to agree that it's been downhill for the actor since 1996 and he's fallen off the A list. But, since you know better than everyone...

And how many actual CIA operatives do you know and what the hell is your point with that paragraph?

Sometimes it's not only better to say nothing, it's also better to take one's own advice.

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"...I am not as ignorant as everyone else in this thread. **I** EnglishJack did not think the same thing because I know that Cuba Gooding Jr is not a B list actor. [...] It really is sometimes better to say nothing."

Your words, above.
Do I really need to deconstruct how and why I was addressing your aggressive and insulting nature--which you've more than amply established in your reply--based on flawed reasoning and false info to boot?

Whether or not you believe it's a rip-off is not what I was addressing and in no way did I establish my position: I haven't seen it. I was here to see people's arguments and whether it was worth renting. Your opinion was none too clear, if you wanna go there. Now knowing that he's actually on the B List, the negation of your original premise on which your argument rests should produce: "I, EnglishJack DID think the same thing because I know that Cuba Gooding Jr IS a B-list actor." But that ain't true as your last comment establishes (not the crazed bottom part), making your first post a big, general insult that made very little sense... and ditto on much of your reply.
And yet, I was certain you appreciated direct and insulting replies? Silly me, don't know where I got that impression. I apologize for offending Sir EnglishJack.

I could explain the CIA thing, too, but that's it for me. Made my comment. Seems I had to explain it. Wasn't gonna but I did. Oh well. No pointless pissing contest for me past this...
So insult away.
Please point out how this comment marks me as a complex-ridden co-conspirator in a secret plan to wipe out the English.
SO.LITTLE.sense.
B'bye.


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The irony of that is Cuba Gooding, Jr. played a supporting role in Tom Cruises JERRY MCGUIRE.






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I agree that it was a lot like Collateral. I disagree that Cuba is a "B-list" actor. He's an Academy Award winning actor. His versatility and energy make him somebody that I'll watch if his name is attached, even if it goes straight to video. He's made some choices that I don't understand, but this movie really wasn't bad. It just wasn't original enough to set it apart from a better known and better received movie.

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I agree that it was a lot like Collateral. I disagree that Cuba is a "B-list" actor. He's an Academy Award winning actor. His versatility and energy make him somebody that I'll watch if his name is attached, even if it goes straight to video. He's made some choices that I don't understand, but this movie really wasn't bad. It just wasn't original enough to set it apart from a better known and better received movie.


Agreed. I LOVED Collateral but I really enjoyed this film too. The only similarities with the films are the hitmen and how they're dressed and the poor guy in the lead role. Other than that they're pretty different. Foxx's character Max was a cab driver with big dreams & ambitions and little to show for it. He fell in love with Jada's lawyer character and is suddenly thrusted into a hitman's game. In THL, this poor schlub is down on his luck, his own wife thinks about cheating on him, he's pretty weak and has a chance encounter with a mysterious guy in a bar and not taking it seriously that he's a killer, he writes names of people he's upset with and the guy takes them out for him. Big difference between the films. I thought Cuba was pretty damn good as a villain, he was cool, cold and badass. Same for Cruise in Collateral, that's one of his BEST films. I think if this film was on more of a bigger budget, more people would talk about it. I agree, I don't think Cuba's a B-List actor either, the guy's won an Oscar and been in films with the likes of Denzel, Dustin Hoffman, Jack Nicholson, Robin Williams, Forest Whitaker, all Oscar winners btw and many others, he's still got it in him to deliver a good performance. He nearly stole every scene he was in in The Butler too.

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Yes, this was one studios copy of anothers studios Collateral. The only thing this movie didn't have, and Collateral did have, was a top notch director. Din't get me wrong, I enjoyed this movie when I wasn't expecting much beforehand. I found it on Crackle and watched it. Just thnk if it had a director like Soderburgh, Turtletaub, JJ Abrams, or even Michael Mann, who directed Collateral. Cuba and Cole aren't A-List actors like Cruise still is, but they still did a pretty good job, and so did Ginny Weirick. Lapaglias bro dis so-so as well. And come on, you gotta admit; the police station was pretty cool, ala homage to Arnold. Also watch Death Sentence with Kevin Bacon. Not the same plot, but the same feel of violence.

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