timeline and age mess up


What idiot think about that, its 39 years after theoriginal, the baby taken at the start would make her 39.....

Shes 20something in this, i can accept maybe its set in early 90s but then they use phones and techonolgy not available then. Its like they didnt care at all.

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They didn't care, or didn't care to rewrite the film once they actually sat down and watched the original. But apparently they hoped the audience wouldn't care either.

Kate Beckinsale probably wouldn't have appeared in the film had they asked, but I think she might have been a good choice to play Heather Miller. Course she would also deserve a better script to go along with her.


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I actually enjoyed the film...

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I actually enjoyed the film...

So do I. But that doesn't mean it isn't still a poorly written mess.


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The producer of the film, Christa Campbell, is not bad looking at all, and is an actress mostly known for horror. How the idea to ask her to play Heather was never brought up is beyond me.

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The producer of the film, Christa Campbell, is not bad looking at all, and is an actress mostly known for horror. How the idea to ask her to play Heather was never brought up is beyond me.

She certainly is more age appropriate, but obviously someone wanted a younger actress.


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I remember there was an interview where Christa Campbell said she wanted this to be a really gritty movie. She liked the 2003 remake, but felt it wasn't scary and focused too much on Jessica Biel's beauty.

Well, this one isn't anywhere near as intense as the remake and it's just about as gratuitous with Alexandra Daddario's body.

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Yeah, that really bothered me as well. I kept trying to place the film. I thought it was late 80s or early 90s based off the clothing and other set pieces. But then a lot of the tech was much more modern plus the $3.60 gas prices said it was about now which would make the character 15-20 years too old. Very sloppy for something that could've eaiely been avoided.

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I think the film takes place in the late 90s.

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I think the film takes place in the late 90s.

It doesn't.


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I say it does and in the world of the movie, they just happened to have all the modern technology available to them early than in reality. I find it hard to believe the original is now set in the 1990s as some people wanted to believe. The style of the clothes and the cars during the opening scenes are clearly 1970s style, not 1990s. That made sense since it's following a movie that happened in the 1970s. How do you go from 1970s stuff, to 1990s stuff in a direct continuation? But then again, where the hell did all those Sawyer family members come from who were nowhere to be found in the original movie. They just popped up out of nowhere. Talk about an odd transition there.

They were best just following after Part 4 and giving us a new Leatherface that replaces the old one when he dies. The continuity in this franchise is so screwed up, making a direct sequel to the first was a mistake.

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I say it does and in the world of the movie, they just happened to have all the modern technology available to them early than in reality.

Ugh. Seriously?

I find it hard to believe the original is now set in the 1990s as some people wanted to believe. The style of the clothes and the cars during the opening scenes are clearly 1970s style, not 1990s. That made sense since it's following a movie that happened in the 1970s. How do you go from 1970s stuff, to 1990s stuff in a direct continuation?

The film does skip ahead probably 25 years. But that would take us to the '90s. The movie is not set in the 1990's.

But then again, where the hell did all those Sawyer family members come from who were nowhere to be found in the original movie. They just popped up out of nowhere. Talk about an odd transition there.

I still question whether or not the writers saw the original movie before making this.

The best bet, if any sense is to be made here, the original movie didn't necessarily happen. The events seen in the opening credits of this film happened. Likely in the late 1980's, but this film is a sequel to that footage alone and not the first movie entirely. It's like they wrote a sequel to a remake that was never made, and instead decided to use footage from the original 1974 film as a set up.

The continuity in this franchise is so screwed up, making a direct sequel to the first was a mistake.

I think it could be done with the right writer(s). But they should also make it a period piece, and not be so concerned with modernizing everything.


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Ugh. Seriously?

Uh, yes seriously. Is there a problem?
The film does skip ahead probably 25 years. But that would take us to the '90s. The movie is not set in the 1990's.

Now it's my turn to say "Um, seriously?" here. If it takes us TO the 1990s, then how does it NOT happen in that time period?
I still question whether or not the writers saw the original movie before making this.

I don't see how they wouldn't. How do you have writers write a sequel to a movie they haven't even seen? That would be stupid as hell and very unprofessional. They certainly knew it happened in the 1970s, so why not make the "present" events look like they happened in the 1990s rather than the 2010s?
The best bet, if any sense is to be made here, the original movie didn't necessarily happen. The events seen in the opening credits of this film happened. Likely in the late 1980's, but this film is a sequel to that footage alone and not the first movie entirely.

Except it IS a sequel to the first movie entirely. The footage goes from the very beginning of the film to the end of it and we see the same actors and characters from that movie. We're getting a recap, otherwise we mind as well tack on the entire first movie and that would be a serious drag. The rest of the first movie happened. We don't need to see all the other scenes than a few of them to be sure of that.
I think it could be done with the right writer(s). But they should also make it a period piece, and not be so concerned with modernizing everything.

Exactly. If they wanted to make it modern, they should have aged the characters completely or like I said, brought us a NEW Leatherface replacing the old one.

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Uh, yes seriously. Is there a problem?

A movie set in the '90s, but with technology not yet invented, and we're supposed to buy that?

Now it's my turn to say "Um, seriously?" here. If it takes us TO the 1990s, then how does it NOT happen in that time period?

That's only if the original events really happened in 1973. Heather was a newborn baby then. No way in hell does Alexandra Daddorio look 39. She's clearly around 25 in this story. But the modern technology suggests 2012. Heather aged 25 years in nearly two decades?

The only solution is to assume the events of the original, in this film's sloppy continuity, happened in the 1980's, as opposed to 1973. The film-makers wisely tried to shy away from that to avoid looking even stupider.

I don't see how they wouldn't. How do you have writers write a sequel to a movie they haven't even seen? That would be stupid as hell and very unprofessional.

Yes it would. The story is so sloppy and disconnected from the first, I think a fan script could have done a better job.

They certainly knew it happened in the 1970s, so why not make the "present" events look like they happened in the 1990s rather than the 2010s?

Modern technology. Maybe it was cheaper? Maybe they feared a '90s period piece wouldn't relate to today's younger horror crowds? You know, if they even thought of that to begin with.

Except it IS a sequel to the first movie entirely. The footage goes from the very beginning of the film to the end of it and we see the same actors and characters from that movie. We're getting a recap, otherwise we mind as well tack on the entire first movie and that would be a serious drag. The rest of the first movie happened. We don't see to see all the other scenes than a few of them to be sure of that.

They call it a sequel, but it can barely connect with the first one. WHERE IS EVERYONE? The other Sawyers? Verna Carson? Where's Hartman and Hooper, and how do they even know the Sawyers? They weren't in the original. They came out of nowhere. Are we to believe baby Heather was present during the first film? Why try to make us sympathize with the Sawyers when the first film already showed us they're clearly monsters? Again, TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D feels more like a sequel to a remake that doesn't exist. But with nothing to work with, they just tacked on footage from the first film.

Looking at the original movie I feel like the family didn't interact much with people in the outside world. Only the hitchhiker and old man left the farm. The family lived in isolation. And all of the sudden everyone knows who they are? There seems to be a bigger mythology in this film than there was in the original.

Exactly. If they wanted to make it modern, they should have aged the characters completely or like I said, brought us a NEW Leatherface replacing the old one.

When this was first announced I actually assumed Leatherface would turn out to be a copycat killer. Obviously I gave the writers too much credit.


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A movie set in the '90s, but with technology not yet invented, and we're supposed to buy that?

Well like I said, IN THE MOVIE'S WORLD, you know which is FICTION and not our own reality, the technology advanced further by the 1990s than it would in real-life. Do you not understand that? It's like all those movies from like the 1920-1960s depicting the early 21st century where there's flying cars and whatnot and we clearly don't have that yet (Back to the Future Part II comes to mind). It's not accurate with reality but it's the case in it's own fictional universe.
That's only if the original events really happened in 1973. Heather was a newborn baby then. No way in hell does Alexandra Daddorio look 39.

Um, there's no way in hell Raquel Welch, Madonna, and Rexella Van Impe should be in their 50s, 70s, and 80s, but they are. They look younger than they do. The same can be the same for Alexandra. You got people like FERGIE who is forty and looks like she's in her twenties. But the problem is, Alexandra wasn't written to be in her late thirties.
She's clearly around 25 in this story. But the modern technology suggests 2012. Heather aged 25 years in nearly two decades?

Like I said, the movie can be seen taking place in a 1990s where technology has greatly advanced in. You can handle that can you or must you see it as it being 2012? Where does it even showcase it being 2012?
Yes it would. The story is so sloppy and disconnected from the first, I think a fan script could have done a better job.

Fans usually know how to write a story and structure it better than these so-called professionals who go about their way to continue mucking it up and yet these companies don't want to read "unsolicited material". The nerve of those bastards.
Modern technology. Maybe it was cheaper? Maybe they feared a '90s period piece wouldn't relate to today's younger horror crowds? You know, if they even thought of that to begin with.

I don't buy this crap. There is nothing wrong with a period piece, especially one that happens only twenty years ago and this is the era where a lot of the young audience watching this movie would be BORN in and grew up during this time. There's lots of films that are period pieces and they're accepted just fine. They still look the part of a modern story just by when it's being made in. It's the story that matters, not the technology.
They call it a sequel, but it can barely connect with the first one. WHERE IS EVERYONE? The other Sawyers? Verna Carson? Where's Hartman and Hooper, and how do they even know the Sawyers? They weren't in the original. They came out of nowhere. Are we to believe baby Heather was present during the first film? Why try to make us sympathize with the Sawyers when the first film already showed us they're clearly monsters? Again, TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D feels more like a sequel to a remake that doesn't exist. But with nothing to work with, they just tacked on footage from the first film.

Suspension of disbelief I guess. I guess we're to imagine they were there or outside somewhere. I guess they wanted to make it more emotional if they had more Sawyers get killed than just four of them, I don't know. I was stupid as hell.
When this was first announced I actually assumed Leatherface would turn out to be a copycat killer. Obviously I gave the writers too much credit.

He should have been a successor. I wonder if the upcoming prequel will connect to this movie. I think it will since there's a Verna character in it. But the name of Leatherface is different. He's Jackson there, but wasn't he suppose to be "Jeb" here or was that a nickname?

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Well like I said, IN THE MOVIE'S WORLD, you know which is FICTION and not our own reality, the technology advanced further by the 1990s than it would in real-life. Do you not understand that?

Even works of fiction can have limits. TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D is NOT sci-fi fantasy. It wants to be grounded in reality.

It's like all those movies from like the 1920-1960s depicting the early 21st century where there's flying cars and whatnot and we clearly don't have that yet (Back to the Future Part II comes to mind). It's not accurate with reality but it's the case in it's own fictional universe.

You're actually comparing TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D to old sci-fi films and their depictions of futuristic technology?

Where does it even showcase it being 2012?

It's on Verna's tombstone. It's also set around Halloween.

It's the story that matters, not the technology.

They wanted that iPhone.

I wonder if the upcoming prequel will connect to this movie. I think it will since there's a Verna character in it. But the name of Leatherface is different. He's Jackson there, but wasn't he suppose to be "Jeb" here or was that a nickname?

I think vaguely. Jackson is Jed, or becomes him. I think this was meant to be a surprise twist, but over a year ago websites pretty much let it slip. There were re-shoots sometime ago. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they rewrote the twist so one of the other kids becomes Leatherface.


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Even works of fiction can have limits. TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D is NOT sci-fi fantasy. It wants to be grounded in reality.

It doesn't have to be a sci-fi fantasy. Even if it's grounded in reality it's still a fictional movie, not real-life.
You're actually comparing TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D to old sci-fi films and their depictions of futuristic technology?

I'm just making a point here. The future of these movies are too advanced than in reality, but we just accept what they are. We can do the same for this movie too to get around the timeline goof.
It's on Verna's tombstone. It's also set around Halloween.

I heard about the tombstone thing and when I went to watch the movie, I couldn't see a date listed on it other than the name. Do you have a screenshot you can provide?
They wanted that iPhone.

Screw the iPhone. This was not a movie to promote the modern technology. We have television commercials for that.
I think vaguely. Jackson is Jed, or becomes him. I think this was meant to be a surprise twist, but over a year ago websites pretty much let it slip. There were re-shoots sometime ago. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they rewrote the twist so one of the other kids becomes Leatherface.

Yeah, probably. We just have to wait and see when it comes out. What did the websites let slip in regards to this?

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It doesn't have to be a sci-fi fantasy. Even if it's grounded in reality it's still a fictional movie, not real-life.

A fictionalized history with advanced technology IS sci-fi fantasy.

I'm just making a point here. The future of these movies are too advanced than in reality, but we just accept what they are.

Because they were depictions of the future and what we could accomplish IN THE FUTURE. You're asking me to accept technology that didn't exist 20 years ago as a fact within this film clearly trying to be grounded in realism.

Go to Dan Yeager's Facebook page and try to explain your theory. I'm sure he'd agree the film is (then) modern times. And that's if he even bothers to answer you.

We can do the same for this movie too to get around the timeline goof.

There is no way. The film is so sloppily made that it's impossible. Even on the police reports "1973" is still mentioned. Sometimes a continuity error is just a continuity error.

I heard about the tombstone thing and when I went to watch the movie, I couldn't see a date listed on it other than the name. Do you have a screenshot you can provide?

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Screw the iPhone. This was not a movie to promote the modern technology. We have television commercials for that.

Yeah, well it's in there. It's in there to stay. And it even kind of played a pivotal role in the film. It wasn't just some background prop you could choose to ignore.


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A fictionalized history with advanced technology IS sci-fi fantasy.

Um, not in this case. All we see are modern day phones, cars, and clothing. This isn't Back to the Future Part II which goes all out with the technology and the sci-fi concept. There's no robots, time machine, cloning, space-crafts, etc. involved here. I wouldn't say this movie would be heading into sci-fi territory.
Because they were depictions of the future and what we could accomplish IN THE FUTURE. You're asking me to accept technology that didn't exist 20 years ago as a fact within this film clearly trying to be grounded in realism.

Um, could you accept the recasting of Drayton Sawyer to some one who looked nothing like the original and there being several other Sawyers lurking around the house that couldn't have been there to begin with? Those alone pretty much ruins the movie's realism so picturing this movie happening in a more technological advanced 1990s shouldn't be hard to swallow if you managed to just accept those other two things as wacky as they are.
Go to Dan Yeager's Facebook page and try to explain your theory. I'm sure he'd agree the film is (then) modern times. And that's if he even bothers to answer you.

Is he one of the silly makers of this movie? He may say it's in modern times, but since the opening is clearly in the 1970s, it's not a problem for me to declare the rest of the movie happening in the 1990s. It's either the original can be in the 1970s and the rest in the 1990s or the opening being in the 1990s and the rest in the 2010s.
There is no way. The film is so sloppily made that it's impossible. Even on the police reports "1973" is still mentioned. Sometimes a continuity error is just a continuity error.

But we still have to get around it somehow to apply to this forty year gap. I couldn't even see a "1970s" date anywhere when I watched the movie and was looking hard and careful at all the newspapers displayed. Just like with Verna's tombstone for the 2012 date. You're making me want to go and watch this movie again.
Yeah, well it's in there. It's in there to stay. And it even kind of played a pivotal role in the film. It wasn't just some background prop you could choose to ignore.

I know. It shouldn't have been there.

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I wouldn't say this movie would be heading into sci-fi territory.

It isn't. You're trying to steer in that territory with your ridiculous theory.

Um, could you accept the recasting of Drayton Sawyer to some one who looked nothing like the original and there being several other Sawyers lurking around the house that couldn't have been there to begin with?

Recasting is inevitable with many sequels, especially since Jim Siedow is dead. And the new Sawyers who pop up is just bad screenwriting. Again, I wonder if the screenwriters had even seen the first movie before writing this.

Those alone pretty much ruins the movie's realism so picturing this movie happening in a more technological advanced 1990s shouldn't be hard to swallow

Oh, yes it is.

Is he one of the silly makers of this movie?

Dan played Leatherface. How do you not know that?

But we still have to get around it somehow to apply to this forty year gap. I couldn't even see a "1970s" date anywhere when I watched the movie and was looking hard and careful at all the newspapers displayed.

Heather looks at a police report about "bodies retrieved from the Sawyer residence" and it says 08/18/1973. An error they missed when they made when decided to crop out any reference to their obvious timeline screw up.

You're making me want to go and watch this movie again.

Maybe you should. How many times have you see it? Once?

I know. It shouldn't have been there.

No, it shouldn't have. But you know, they wanted the film to appeal to modern horror fans who have this kind of technology.


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It isn't. You're trying to steer in that territory with your ridiculous theory.

It's not ridiculous and sci-fi territory is best fit for movies like Star Wars, Star Trek, Independence Day, etc. anything involving like I listed in my last comment. This movie would not fit the bill simply because of some iPhones.
Recasting is inevitable with many sequels, especially since Jim Siedow is dead. And the new Sawyers who pop up is just bad screenwriting. Again, I wonder if the screenwriters had even seen the first movie before writing this.

Recasting is inevitable, but they could have picked some one who looked like Jim, not just pulled an actor who previously starred in a TCM movie. But back to the point, have you just accepted in the inconsistency of the Drayton replacement and the extra Sawyers? If so, then why not accept the idea of the movie happening in a slightly technological advanced 1990s?
Oh, yes it is.

No it's not! It's only like a fifteen year gap from the movie's release. The movie happens in 1998. Not really a problem there. At last cellphones existed by then. That should ease thing down a bit for you.
Dan played Leatherface. How do you not know that?

I don't pay attention to who played who. I didn't care who played the character to look him up.
Heather looks at a police report about "bodies retrieved from the Sawyer residence" and it says 08/18/1973. An error they missed when they made when decided to crop out any reference to their obvious timeline screw up.

So they cropped out everything else but this one date listing?
Maybe you should. How many times have you see it? Once?

Yes. How many times am I suppose to see it? I'm only going to see it again for the date listings in the paper and on the tombstone.
No, it shouldn't have. But you know, they wanted the film to appeal to modern horror fans who have this kind of technology.

And? They don't think these knuckleheads can't handle a movie if it doesn't have their precious technology in it? Are they paying attention to the phones and cars used or the actual story, killings, and suspense? This is TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, not the iPHONE SHOWCASE.

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This movie would not fit the bill simply because of some iPhones.

Technology that exists in a time that it didn't is sci-fi fantasy. Period.

Recasting is inevitable, but they could have picked some one who looked like Jim, not just pulled an actor who previously starred in a TCM movie. But back to the point, have you just accepted in the inconsistency of the Drayton replacement and the extra Sawyers? If so, then why not accept the idea of the movie happening in a slightly technological advanced 1990s?

It's a lot easier to let a new actor slide, or accepting the idea of a new group of family members popping from somewhere during the last hour or so after Sally's escape and Hooper's arrival than it is believing technology that didn't exist 25 years ago could.

Besides, casting Marilyn Burns, Gunnar Hansen, John Dugan, and Bill Moseley in this film was obviously a publicity stunt that backfired anyway. None of them were brought back for the upcoming prequel LEATHERFACE. Neither was Dan Yeager for that matter. Sadly Marilyn and Gunnar have passed on of course.

No it's not! It's only like a fifteen year gap from the movie's release. The movie happens in 1998. Not really a problem there. At last cellphones existed by then

iPhones didn't. Period.

So they cropped out everything else but this one date listing?

I never said they were good film-makers.

They don't think these knuckleheads can't handle a movie if it doesn't have their precious technology in it? Are they paying attention to the phones and cars used or the actual story, killings, and suspense

I have spoken to people who simply want the same rehashed formula over and over again. I FULLY BELIEVE a lot of people are small minded enough to not care about story or characters. They already care about the killings, usually as long as they're gory as hell. I wouldn't overlook the possibility people like the iPhone simply because it's something they can relate to.

The majority of the movie IS modern times. It was INTENDED to be modern times. But the incompetence of the film-makers suggest 1973 to 2012 is merely a 25 year gap. They even took notice of their screw up, and just hoped "no one would mind." The incompetence is baffling. And keep in mind, this movie had rewrites and re-shoots.

The really sad thing is there was promise in this film's story, and with the right writer(s) could have had a decent sequel or two. Not five or six like they hoped. In fact I suspect they chose to go with a prequel as a sort of soft reboot.


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Wow, you left Manna-Fest speechless! Usually, people just give up in frustration.


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It's a floating timeline, like how the bart and lisa never age in the simpsons despite having 4 or 5 christmas episodes. It's twenty odd years later yet time moves differently, it's fiction. I'm pretty sure dates on newspapers articles were obscured in the film.

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Actually, you can see the date on one papers and graves.

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It's a floating timeline, like how the bart and lisa never age in the simpsons despite having 4 or 5 christmas episodes. It's twenty odd years later yet time moves differently, it's fiction.

It's a sequel to a remake that doesn't exist.

I'm pretty sure dates on newspapers articles were obscured in the film.

They attempted that as result of realizing their mistake. They didn't get all of them of course.
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One of the worst written plot holes ever in a film. But, what do you expect from the writers of Jason Goes To Hell?

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That's maybe the most forgivable mistake they made, IMO.

I mean, series like Friday the 13th and Evil Dead also have played it kind of fast and loose with continuity. It would have been easy to overlook if the movie had been any good.

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