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If Emilie hadn't died....


Maybe somehow she and Albert could have gotten together. It would have been a great ending to the film (and she'd be 4 years older than when we last see her).

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Was it stated in the movie in any way that Emilie died?

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At the end when her father was trying to buy the horse he said it was because his daughter was gone and the horse was all he had left to remember her by (something like that..have only seen movie once). I don't know if he actually said the words "she died"..but from that scene that was the conclusion I drew automatically.

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well they did mention she was pretty sick in the movie....

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When? I don't remember that

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Emilie mentions how she is forbidden from riding because her bones are very brittle. The grandfather gives Emilie a teaspoon of medicine from a clear bottle. Later on when the Germans are confiscating their food, one of them holds the bottle of medicine, then her illness is mentioned again. Then the girl dies, the grandfather makes a pact with Satan to resurrect her. She lives in the windmill as a zombie. The grandfather has to kill the odd German to keep her fed. Or something like that.

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Lol.

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Grandfather

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I'm not familiar with the book or the play, each of which may have different endings regarding Emilie. What we hear in the film about her though is that she is sick and at the end the following (based on closed captioning):

...I knew whose horse he was. My granddaughter's. She saved his life. He was everything to her.
Where is your granddaughter?
The war has taken everything from everyone. He is all that I have left of her.

He belongs to you. That is, of course, what my little girl would have wanted. And she was the boss.

What was her name?
Emilie. Her name is Emilie.


To me this means that the grandfather bought the horse because that was "all he had left of her" this memory of her and her horse as she lived fully for those few short hours. But then he saw the bond between Joey and Albert. It was more than a proof of ownership but rather not being able to separate the two who share such a strong bond. Either the grandfather saw how much devastation the war had already wrought and could not inflict more upon the young solider OR he wanted the horse to have a happy ending and thereby carries on the spirit of his granddaughter.

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You can deducte from the dialog between Emilie's grandfather and Albert. He didn't actually say "she died" but he said that he has nothing left.

However, in the book, it is specify that she died.

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Yes, she died. Her grandfather said that Joey was the only thing he had left of her which to me says she died and she was sickly.

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according to TvTropes (not sure if this is fact) .. they were going to show an epilogue with Emillie being alive and visiting Joey and Albert.. but in the end the directors decided not to..


http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WarHorse

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Actually when Albert asks the grandfather the name of her granddaugher, he replies. "Her name IS Emilie."

So I figure she was really alive and the grandfather was just bluffing when he said the horse was all he had left.

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~Thats exactly what i was hoping they would do!!! Emilie walk up to Joey and Albert be there and it end it at them smiling at eachother or something..An ending that you would know they ended up together. It would have been nice, so that they could share Joey&have an even more of a happy ending.

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The Grandfather definitely says "her name IS Emilie" as he walks away so I agree he may have initially been trying to gain sympathy in mentioning her death to obtain the horse.

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I kinda thought he said 'her name IS Emilie' to indicate that she is still with him in spirit.

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@MmmmFloorPie

That's what I think, too.

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She didn't died,her grandfather said she drives a bus and her name is Emily when saying goodbye,he was trying to gain sympathy to get the horse...she drives by bus...watch it again!

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What Bus?
He says "...And she was the boss" before saying "Emilie. Her name is Emilie" If that's what your referring to.
Well I personally like to think that Emilie survived, but since he said she WAS the boss, it pretty much sells it for me.

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ohhh..now i understand why everyone agrees that she passed away...then it is a sad but maybe more dramatic/better ending...i thought that her grandad told bus cus she lost the horse...something of Spielberg humour :P.thanks btw! :)..abrazos!

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Uh, spoiler warning?

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Um, everyone knows not to go to a message board until you've seen whatever is going to be discussed...


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Not really. People come to these boards all the time to ask questions, or even get a better idea of the movie. That's why 95% of posts with spoilers have *Spoiler Warning* in the title.

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And the dummies read the other 5% Lol

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I never come to these boards until after I have seen the film; I'd rather get my own perception of the movie even if it's wrong. Then after the first viewing and I've checked out the movie's page on IMDb, I watch it again.

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I disagree, I actually think she was alive and he was trying to garner sympathy by saying she had died. Earlier in the movie Emily and the granddaughter had a discussion about how he always lies, and did he ever do the right thing. I think this foreshadows the end of the movie that he was lying (in my opinion), but ended up doing the right thing.

Clearly, though, Spielberg put that in there for the audience to interpret.

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A very strong possibility indeed.

That, or "her name IS Emiliy" means that her spirit lives on, because he did the right thing, as she would have wanted.

Really don't know !

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Not at all. She died. It's pretty well-stated. MANY people who lose a loved one will get offended at referring to said loved one in the past tense. Why would the old man be trying to gain sympathy from Albert AFTER he's given the horse to him? And if she is alive, why wouldn't he take the horse from Albert for her? Not to mention, all throughout their scenes, its mentioned that she is very sick/needs her medicine, etc.

If anything, killing her in the way he did was a very Spielberg thing to do. Thinking she lived undermines she and the grandfathers whole story.

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Thank you! I have no idea why everyone is being so stupid to think maybe Emelie is alive.

When the grandfater gives the horse up he says when asked where his granddaughter is at, "The war has taken everything from everyone. He is all that I have left of her." He then says "He belongs to you. That is of course what my little girl WOULD have wanted. And she WAS the boss"

The man was emotional about the horse, which would only have happened if his granddaughter was dead. Him stating "Her name IS Emily" is overlooking the fact that many people speak of the recently deceased in present tense and that the guy is French so perhaps his English isn't all that good.

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She wasn't dead. Remember the scene with Emilie and her grandpa when she tells him that he always lies? I think that's what he did too at first, lied to Albert to get the horse. But then decided to tell the truth when he said "her name IS Emilie". Kinda disturbing how he could actually joke/lie about something like that.

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EXACTLY. The boards also have questions for those that haven't seen it. Yet people are *beep* stupid and post spoilers like it's nothing. There's a significant but minority of users that don't care if they spoil movies for others.

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I'll often visit the board of a movie I see advertised to get the general gist of the comment titles, I have found it to be a reasonable indicator of the movie being poor, average or great. It's rare that too much is given away in the titles, most posters are thoughtful and considerate.

I don't think it's too much to ask that people phrase their thread titles in such a way as to not give away major plot points.

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It would've been nice if Emilie lived, but I don't think it would be a good idea to have her end up with Albert.
That would've been to predictable, to cheesy and would make "War Horse" to sentimental.

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Don't put spoilers in the title of your thread! I was scrolling to the bottom of the page and saw this accidentally on the way down. I hope it's not a major part of the movie.

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Boy:
Where is your granddaughter?

Grandfather:
The war has taken everything from everyone.
He is all that I have left of her.

You may have this.
That is, of course,
what my little girl would have wanted.
And she was the boss.

Boy:
What was her name?

Grandfather:
Emilie.
Her name IS Emilie.


MORAL:
Her Soul is at peace & she will now haunt the Horse :D
By dialogue she appears to be dead.

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I thought they set up the story with the girl so two people who love the horse would end up together. With all of those solders coming through, I bet she didn't die from being sickly. Twenty horny Englishmen covered in mud probably took turns plowing her field.


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