Which version should I watch?!


The Swedish original or the David Fincher re-adaption?

EDIT (2/4/2017 DD/MM/YY):

Thank you for all of your wonderful replies. I actually prefer Fincher's take on the novel to the Swedish version. Honestly the only difference I can recall from watching both films is the pacing; I think the Swedish version is paced too fast compared to the American one. It might be because I watched the American re-adaptation first, read the novel, then watched the Swedish original. I don't really know and it's not a fair comparison. Still, I recommend the novel over the film. But if you dislike reading, then I recommend that you watch Fincher's version.

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I watched the Remake/US version yesterday and enjoyed it quite alot. If youre a fan of Fincher movies i think its better to watch his version first.

I asked the same about a year ago and just watched it in this thread

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568346/board/thread/232601652


The movie was very well shot and i thought it was prob one of the best american movies that managed to capture the scandianian movie/thriller atmosphere. Im from Denmark myself and was pretty awed how it felt like one of the few good thrillers some of those countries have made.

The movie itself i gave it a 8/10 so far but i might lower it to a 7/10 on a 2nd watch one day. I felt it was hard to keep track of the many names in the movie and the last 15 minutes felt more like a spy movie than a thriller.

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I liked both versions, and I don't think it matters much which one you watch first.

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It's the same story but Fincher's version is infinitely more accomplished when it comes to film making technique. The visual aesthetic of the original is a drab drag.

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Watch both.

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Original undoubtedly better. Maybe it is easier in the technique, but like Van Gogh's sunflowers art...

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No reason not to watch both versions though personally I preferred the original.

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Watch David Fincher's first as it's better acted and has more production value. Then the Swedish versions.

The Swedish version was meant to be a TV series not a film and at times it looks like it. Also Noomi Rapace is the only good thing about the Swedish movies. but she doesn't resemble the physical appearance of Lisbeth as much as Rooney Mara does. She lacks the vulnerability of Lisbeth and is way much more beautiful than Mara. Lisbeth wasn't supposed to be beautiful.

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I agree with the first part (Finchers being better) but not completely with the second part...

Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that but I actually find Mara much more attractive than Rapace. I just don't care for her face (of course she is not ugly, just doesn't appeal to me).

It's been a while since I read the books but I'm almost certain that Lisbeth was described as as going out of her way to try and not look attractive and could be mistaken for a 14 year old boy (something else Fincher got right with the casting) but if she tried that she could look like a model (kind of like the look Mara had when she had to cheat the banks).

Again, it's been many years and I'm paraphrasing but that's the way I remember it. If I can find my book and the time I'll try to reference it but am swamped for the time being.

On a side note I have the same problem with the Wonder Women actress... Haven't been one of the vocal haters and thought she looked the part in the trailer (when in action as WW) but just about every still I have seen of her as model, training or whatever, I just don't care for her facial features (again, not ugly in any way, just not my type).

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In real life, both Mara and Rapace are attractive in their own right but in terms of characterization the one who looks more beautiful and attractive is Rapace, That doesn't match Lisbeth at all.

but as you said beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And what you remember from the book is kinda accurate. Lisbeth didn't seem beautiful on first sight to Armansky beacause her beauty wasn't evident. I don't think it's that she made things to hide her beauty but more like she never cared to enhance it.

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When you go out to eat will you chance a no name dinner, or does it have to be a national franchise? When you go to someones house and they pull out the photo album, do you tend to dwell on the candid shots that tell a story, or the staged class yearbook photos? If you like the candid watch the Swedish version first. If the yearbook pics touch you - see Fincher. One is all about story, the other aesthetics and money shots. Fincher is the safer choice, since you don't have to invest much to watch it, and the '09 version was richer to me.

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If you had to pick one, I'd absolutely, hands-down, go with the original. I think most people look to the original as the definitive adaptation of the book, anyhow. Noomi Rapace is absolutely remarkable - she really captured the character on the page and, actually, IMO elevated the material - and I also found a lot of the supporting performances to be superior when contrasted with the remake. Plus, the Swedish original is actually paced far better than the remake, which droned on much longer and had a bizarrely elongated last act.

Fincher's film does have better production values (set pieces, cinematography, etc.), but I find the bump honestly negligible. I'm not sure too many people would notice who aren't normally attentive to those sorts of things. Not to mention it's a little annoying to see a film that supposedly takes place in Sweden populated by main characters with pretty clearly fake phony accents.

Another bonus to watching original would concern the sequels. I know they're filming an american production of the sequels, but you won't have that continuity that the original trilogy did. Of course, the sequels kind of get progressively less interesting, so I'm if you'd care.

I know it sounds like I'm being harsh on the Fincher adaptation, but it's good, too. I just don't really consider it the definitive adaptation, and I don't really think it's being remembered that way. In fact, I don't think too many people remember that there even was a remake. The Fincher adaptation served as a tremendous exercise in style, and if you're not annoyed by Fincher going all-out Fincher-y, it may be worth checking out at some point after having watched the originals.

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For me the Fincher version is better in almost every way. The original was good, but the thing with the Swedish films, ESPECIALLY the sequels, is that they're kind of cheesy. It's not just that the Fincher version had a bigger budget and better production value, but the writing was more believable. It took a flawed book and turned it into something great.

However, the Swedish film also improved on the book and is also a pretty good film in its own right. This is why I'd argue that there is no 'definitive version'. To me the definitive version is the Fincher film and a lot of other people would agree, but a lot of other people would disagree too, which is a testament to the quality of both films, and a testament to the fact that it just depends on your own personal tastes.

I'd say watch them both.

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I would say watch the three Swedish original films/stories all made with Noomi Rapace.

The American version of the first film/story (Dragon Tattoo) was obviously a copy of the Swedish film.

Rooney Mara did a good job as Lizbeth in the American film, but otherwise I didn't like the remake. Fincher made too many changes to the 'Dragon Tattoo' story. It seemed to me that he really dumbed it down, probably so it would be more agreeable/acceptable his idea of American tastes.

Supposedly the second film 'Played with Fire' and the third 'Hornet's Nest' are also to be rewritten and produced in Hollywood, but I haven't heard anything about them for over a year.

I'll be surprised if there is any financial support or any interest in either project.

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The dumbing down of the original sounds like what Spike Lee did to Oldboy. Anyway I preferred the American version to the Swedish version, simply because of that scene were Lizbeth confronts her land lord on the lift. I didn't like that we never saw him again in the Swedish version or that what she went through isn't brought up either, it just seemed to make the first hour pointless for her character and really dragged the pacing of the film for me. In the American version however it is very hard to buy Daniel Craig as a vulnerable journalist, because he's James Bond.

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it is very hard to buy Daniel Craig as a vulnerable journalist, because he's James Bond.
I've read this line of thought many times before but I personally didn't have a hard time not seeing him as Bond. I think he played Blomkvist just passive enough (didn't seem overly confident or macho to me) without being too soft (which wouldn't be a good trait for an investigative journalist). Hell, he even tried to get fat.

I could at least believe that many women could be attracted to him (even though they down played that part in Finchers version)... I had a really hard time seeing Nyqvist in the same way.

I also liked Robin Wright much better as Erica then the Swedish actress. When I was reading the books I saw her with a much more women of the world/jet setting kind of sofistication that I would almost compare more to Clair from House of Cards (without being quite so stiff and debutant like as Claire is) then the house wife nest door could be a mother of three impression I got from the way she was portrayed in the Oplev version.

I liked the casting better over all in Finchers version (yes even Lisbeth)... along with everything else :-).

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