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Was Irv in love with Ken?

posted 12 years ago by MikeGrossman34
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So I couldn't figure out what Irv's motivation was for killing people on Ken's behalf. That wasn't really made clear in the film. Irv seemed to be so interested in every aspect of Ken's life, I started to wonder if he was actually in love with Ken. Or was he just using Ken's hatred as justification to carry out his own homicidal fantasies? Either way, Ken seemed to know Irv was behind it but was willing to take the blame. It's like Irv was the physical embodiment of Ken's alter ego and somehow Ken felt responsible for him and his behavior.

Any thoughts?

[–] limmitedgravity 12 years ago

You must have missed the scene where he watched Ken get roughed up by the BB team. He was there behind the doorway. He also explained it during his confession that he didn't protect him once, so he was going to kill the Owner of the business as to protect him this time around from being picked on. (The Owner was all over Ken)

He felt bad for not doing anything...so he rewarded him with the murders.

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[–] MikeGrossman34 12 years ago

I didn't miss the scene. It just seemed like over the top behavior to make up for not protecting Ken.

[–] xbatmandax 12 years ago

That's because he wasn't rational. The event didn't "make" him go crazy, it triggered latent behavior.

[–] Dejay 10 years ago

I guess he also felt guilty and ashamed, and carried this with him all the time. And because of that he was angry at the 4 guys who made him an accomplice. He was a looser because of what those 4 guys did, and he didn't stop them.

Also of course he must have had a latent homicidal desire so Ken was a bit of an excuse to start killing.

[–] Tyler-A-Arse 8 years ago

It just seemed like over the top behavior to make up for not protecting Ken.

I thought it was a little far-fetched. His motive was not good enough for such a killing spree.

[–] Rayvio 10 years ago

he witnesses his friend getting traumatised and does nothing to intervene. feels guilty. his friend later attempts suicide and gets committed. guilt continues to build. he sees how broken his friend is, allowing everyone to walk all over him and not standing up for himself. he gets angry on his friends behalf and rather than internalising he focusses it on the basketball team who bullied his friend who he blames for everything that happened to his friend and for his own guilt about not helping. after all, if they hadn't done anything then there wouldn't be anything for him to have felt guilty about

if it was all about Ken though then he'd rather go to prison than do something to cause Ken pain like killing his daughter. as much as he did care about Ken, it was really all about his own guilt and his own anger

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