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Historically inaccurate and

posted 11 years ago by tonysoprano1605
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This series is a complete joke. The producers have basically reduced JFK to some rich daddy's boy who schemes his way to the presidency, sleeps with a bunch of women, consumes drugs and alcohol while in office, and gives in too much to the communists. Every episode contains something negative about the family, either with the family's alleged ties to Mafioso Sam Giancana, Rosemary Kennedy's lobotomy, JFK's infidelities, and even goes as far as to insinuate that Bobby Kennedy had a thing for Jackie Kennedy. There's no concrete proof of that, it's just pure fiction on the part of the writers and it's dishonest. This series borders on character assassination and not surprisingly, it was written and produced by the same bunch of Republicans who created the 9/11-era
TV show "24".

[–] DivingIntheBlue 11 years ago

Biopics are rarely completely accurate whether the subject(s) are involved or not. Even documentaries are skewed.

I also don't understand why something like Rosemary Kennedy's lobotomy and institutionalization would not be in the film. It happened and, negative or not, it is part of the family's history. There's also substantial documentation that JFK did employ the services of Dr. Max Jacobs who shot him up with vitamins laced with speed. The good doctor lost his license for doing this so again, true but negative. Same with the extra martial affairs.

Seems like you wanted a sanitized and saintly film instead of one that showed that the Kennedys didn't walk on water.

[–] PrometheusTree64 11 years ago

Not "saintly; just not a smear.

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[–] Alek_Hidell 9 years ago

I also don't understand why something like Rosemary Kennedy's lobotomy and institutionalization would not be in the film. It happened and, negative or not, it is part of the family's history.

It was in there. I'm watching it now.

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[–] ThomasCrown76 10 years ago

Shows Oswald doing it. Lost my vote;)

[–] TheLightFantastic 10 years ago

I don't think any miniseries about the Kennedys have ever shown some random man shooting JFK. Since no conspiracy theory can definitively say who shot him or why, who would they show? A man covered in shadows? Eight different guys? Some dude in the grassy knoll? From a movie making standpoint, it makes no sense which is why they default to the Warren Commission's version.

It may not be 100% correct but it's all a filmmaker has to go on. Besides, there are a billion and one books about the matter. If someone wants a differing view, they can seek it elsewhere.

[–] fitchj21 9 years ago

Physical evidence proves there was no grassy knoll shooter. The evidence points to shooter from 6th floor. It was Oswald.

As for the series, I'm a huge Kennedy fan, but I have to say the negatives displayed have a lot of truth to them.

[–] BrandiStarBright 9 years ago

Watch America Declassified. 18 eyewitnesses died some way or another in a 3 year span, the statistics is veeerrryyyyy rare. Someone was in the grassy knoll. Lee Harvey was the fall guy.

Lyndon conspired.

[–] fitchj21 9 years ago

Oswald was not a fall guy. Stop watching tv shows and pick up some books with facts.
Oswald made a special trip to the Paine house on a weekday to retrieve his rifle. He left his wedding ring on Marina's dresser the morning of 22 November. He carried a a concealed package that he claimed was curtain rods into the TSBD on 22 Nov. He was spotted on the 6th Floor minutes before the event. His finger prints were on the murder weapon and all over the snipers nest. He murdered, in front of several witnesses, Officer Tippit. He resisted arrest and attempted to pull a gun on the arresting officers, the same gun used to kill Tippit. He told one provable lie after another. The man could not be more guilty. Defending him is a disgrace to the Kennedy and Tippit families.

[–] fitchj21 9 years ago

Johnson was involved? Haha. Yeah, I'm sure he would risk using a wing nut like Oswald to pull this off. Even if he were to have middlemen handling it, I think they'd (1) at least choose a guy that could have a resonable chance to escape (2) silence Oswald by leaving no chance he be taken into custody.

Oswald had no car nor did he even have a drivers license. No way in hell any organized crime or gov't organization uses a boaster like Oswald to do this.

[–] fitchj21 9 years ago

Someone was in the grassy knoll? Please provide your proof. If there was a grassy knoll shooter, the left side of Kennedy's head would have an exit wound and Jackie would have very likely been hit. Frame 313 of the Zapruder film clearly shows the first movement of JFK's head went FORWARD, as consistent with a shot from behind the motorcade. There's never been a shred of proof that there was a shooter from the grassy knoll. 3 shots, one rifle. All bullets and fragments recovered ALL came from the Oswald rifle. Not one bullet or fragment from any other gun.

[–] xatian11968 9 years ago

"produced by the same bunch of Republicans" | Haha. I love it. Republicans have been blamed for everything, and now I have heard it all. Republicans running a smear campaign, whilst still finding time to make the sun go out at night, and killing Jesus.

On another note, I thought the film was quite interesting. I remember being young enough that the administration of JFK was roughly twenty years distant. The notions of drug use, unfaithfulness, and the baggage of the Kennedy clan was just as blatant then as it is now. So tonysoprano1605 didn't get the movie about JFK that he was hoping for? That still doesn't mean that it wasn't a good attempt in a sea of attempts to pick apart this family. Was rather tasteful treatment with Kinnear imho.

[–] mls4182 8 years ago

I don't think people watch biopic for the accuracy they watch it for the camp. Who knows what went on in private? A Woman Named Jackie was HILARIOUS. When I watch it do I think all those silly things happened? Her taking a pair of women's panties to Jack and telling him the maid found them in their bed and they aren't her size? Not really. But I laughed My but off and that is what mattered.