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*MAY BE SPOILERS*

I'm sorry, but this movie was just crap.

I would love to pretend to be a professional critic and use larger words and describe things with witty words, but really, the movie wasn't worth my time.

It's just so unbelievable.

The acting was fine. The mother, Leslie Easterbrook, was brilliant in the part. No objections there.

The plot was reasonable I suppose, "Crazy mother abuses children."

But the actual responses to the abuse by the kids was absolutely and completely unlikely. At any time these kids could have gotten together as a group and run to the police. They had time. They had proof. They had many, many opportunities to escape. When the first girl was dying the mother left for TWO WHOLE DAYS. And the other three children did NOTHING to help her? And when the mother orders the younger kids to beat the older kids with the "Board of Education" they actually DO IT? Man, I would have turned around and hit her so hard her head would have broken in two. Right about there I just wrote this movie off my list of believable abuse films.

They could have run out the door and gone to ANYONE for help. ANYONE. If they had traveled all together as a group it would have lent credibility to their story. The police have a legal responsibility to respond to such allegations. After the first girl was beaten, the bruises themselves would have been enough evidence to bring an investigation.

Sorry, it just doesn't add up as believable in any sense. It was crap.

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I might grant you a few of the points, but there's nothing "unbelievable" about frightened children caving into their parents' demands; children are very gullible and easy manipulated, especially by their parents who are their authority figures; it's just basic psychology.

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Well one girl did tell someone at school,and the mother and the cowboy profit made it seem like she was crazy,and acting out because her father had left. The school didn't believe them, so they likely figure neither would the police. Now you must remember the area in which they lived in, it's kinda isolated,and you need to drive just to go anywhere. So without a car, they were pretty much stuck. Plus this is their mother. They love her,and they are likely filled with confusion, fear,and conflict. These was young teenager. You do know this was base on a true story,right.

This was loosely base on the story of "Theresa Knorr , who torment her children.Except that the mother and sons didn't die,they was convicted and went to jail,and the youngest daughter escape .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Knorr










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...the area in which they lived in, it's kinda isolated,and you need to drive just to go anywhere. So without a car, they were pretty much stuck....


Actually, the real family lived in an apartment at the time of, at least, one of the daughters' murder.

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You do realise that this movie was based on a true story, right? And that the movie actually considerably tones DOWN what these children suffered? When you are the victim of horrendous physical and mental abuse from before the age you can speak, you aren't exactly equipped to just walk away.

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...And that the movie actually considerably tones DOWN what these children suffered?


The movie doesn't tone it down. It heightens the drama by having the young narrator, the youngest daughter, kill her mother and brother. In real life, the young woman never killed her mother and brother. She turned them in after watching an episode of America's Most Wanted and remembering what happened to her sisters.

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@rushknight:

I had the exact same reaction. Even though it's based on a true story, I kept thinking to myself: Are these kids all RETARDED? They can't figure out how to go for help when the mother is gone? They can't figure out how to overpower her? And since the abuse, as depicted in the film, started when they were well into their teens, I'm not buying, as some other posters have stated, that they were too conditioned to do anything about it. All I can conclude is that since this, or some variation of this, did in fact happen, these kids were really messed up, along with the mother, even before the blatant abuse took place.

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ya, like the OP, I didn't know this was a true story when I started
to watch the movie, then I paused it after a bit, because of the
fact the it was too unbelievable to me. I came on here and found
out about the true case and read the wiki page on it.

So, ya, my thoughts on the matter, the movie is in modern times,
so there is no way in hell those kids would have not been reported
by teachers after seeing the bruises from the daily beatings, in
which the mother didn't even bother to hit them in inconspicuous
places so as to hide the marks. so as far as this movie is concerned,
its total crap, no way, mo how, not gonna happen.
Now, the real life kids, on the other hand, it was back in the 1970s
people kept to their own business for the most part. so if these kids
were getting beat like this and it only started happening like it
did in the movie, which is when they were older, they wouldn't have
been noticed perhaps, but the way I see it, those kids must have
been retarded! there is no way that would happen to a smart kid.
I could see if it had started when they were little, then they
wouldn't know anything else, but if they were fine for 12-14 yrs then
horrific abuse, those kids would have escaped, or they would be some
stupid ass kids.






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Well, it may seem that way, but it is 100% true. This story has been on many crime shows with interviews from the one remaining daughter. I believe that one of the shows that featured this story was Cold Case Files. But I've seen it on many other shows. The mother's real name is Theresa Knorr, and she's either still in prison, or she died there.

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I just watched this movie, and I could have sworn the daughter narrating said the mother was gone for a whole WEEK while the one daughter was handcuffed in the shower. I'm sorry, but, if those kids were alone for a whole week, they would have had plenty of time to leave and go get help, call the police, contact that Pastor, or any other number of ways to end the situation. They all also had access to the gun. Instead of beating the one daughter with that paddle, they could have swung at the mother instead. Or all three of them could have ganged up on the mother early on, tied her up and left for help. There were any number of times where they could have escaped from or ended the abuse they were going through. They weren't helpless, small children, they were teenagers! I just don't buy how or why they put up with all that crap, allowed themselves to be put through that, and didn't do anything to help themselves? I wasn't disturbed by this movie at all, only pissed off at the helpless way these teens didn't fight back.

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It's weird the way our human minds wrap our brains around things that have happened or are happening to them. A lot if it is hard to take in because it does make a person mad when they can see what the other person should be doing, yet they aren't doing it for some reason or another. The youngest daughter, the one that actually got up the nerve to tell someone about what was happening, was on a crime show a few years ago, and she's been on talk shows (I believe) in the past, telling her horrendous story. Not a word has changed after all the years of talking about it, plus there's a lot of evidence to back her up. The mother, Theresa Knorr, is in prison now, if she hasn't died yet.

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I watched a crime show on these and one of the girls did run away but was picked up for prostitution and she begged the cops not to take her back and told them everything that happend..that thought it was to crazy and the mom forced the youngest child to lie to the cops and tell them thier was no abuse so they sent her back..the mom ended up handcuffing the girl that ran way so she couldn't do it again..so the other kids might of thought if they ran away the same thing might happen...I do think it's odd that the oldest daughter how was over 18 didn't leave..but she might of stayed to protect her younger sister...you can never now what thier reasons for staying are

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A victim of abuse doesn't think linear like that. Especially not when the abuser is a parent. Our parents teach us about life, expectations, reality, etc. Even in a normal home we are influenced greatly by our parents, but since most parents aren't abusive, we don't lose track of right and wrong or consequences or how to handle ourselves. An abused child, especially one like the ones in the movie, who suffered abuse all the way through their lives, don't know any better. A number of abused children have later stated that they thought that everyone lived like them. That violence was the norm in all households, and why would any child seek help from something they thought everyone did? And when it comes to the sons doing as their mother says, it's all down to self-preservation. The daughters were the biggest target, the sons weren't, if they helped their mother they wouldn't become the targets instead. These children most likely also always believed their mother was right, because this was their only reality.

Anyone who thinks that an abused kid can just easy as cake walk out the door and get help has no idea what abuse really is and how it can affect a person. The principle is the same as a woman in an abusive relationship - people keep asking "why didn't she leave him?" It's not that simple, and in a case like that we're talking about two adults, and not children molded by their mother's abuse.

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Knowing this is the internet and people can say anything, I am an actual Psychologist and this movie is stupid. I have dealt with abused kids and their first instinct is to always fight back. Anyone in an abusive relationship be it in a family or relationship will always fight back to some degree. If there is such trauma to this degree when the kids are teens, there WILL be a fight against the one in the position of authority. My main problem with what you wrote is that you QuintessentialBella are putting out bad information. Children fight back harder than adults because they do not have as much value on their on lives meaning they do not see the consequences of their actions. Teens and kids do not have the years behind them to put their actions into perspective. In all this movie puts out a terrible picture of what abuse is really like. Four teens, they would fight back. The nature of a teenager is to establish identity, thus they will fight.

Yes, I understand that this was loosely based on a real incident; my comments were based on the movie. The movie is impossible.

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Yeah, and as a victim of child abuse. It took a lot of courage to escape my mother. After countless attempts of getting help. After being beaten with a cord and still have welts on my face, I went to school and everyone knew because I had to change for gym. My mom still wasn't taken away from me. Investigation happened, and my mom was her usually 'motherly' self. Image of perfection, smile on her face. And I denied it because she told me she would kill me. And you know right away when investigation happens, sometimes, you go HOME with the person. That's the last thing you want, tell them the truth, and they say it to your mother, and you be breathing for an inch of your life.
I was made to do things I didn't want to, my brother always defended her, if I stood up, he'd hurt me too. and when you have one sibling on your parents side, it's a hard battle. You're young, you feel like no one cares about you, you feel like you DESERVE this. So *beep* you and your 'I'm a psychologist' *beep* because until you've BEEN a victim, you have NO idea what we have to deal with and the war we go through. YES we think to hurt them, to escape, but fear is *beep* strong. And the fear of dying, of being brought back, of fighting back and it goes wrong... you have no *beep* idea. Especially when no one will believe you.
I eventually fought when I was old enough, and stronger enough. I learned sneak tactics and used my advantage of being in school to escape. So, please, tell me again how it's so easy.

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link to the true story - which is pretty much the movie except the end is different. also the oldest daughter was 20 when her mother began making her prostitute herself. Why didn't she leave if she was 20? who knows. but she didn't -

http://ordinaryevil.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/shocking-but-true-theresa-knorr-the-nightmare-that-was/

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I hear you. People who walk around judging others because "it's so easy" to get out of situations like that are either really stupid or they genuinely have absolutely no idea of the reality at all.

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You can be a psychologist all you want, but unless you've actually been in a similar situation, you really don't know. Do you? I *have* and speak from personal experience when I say that standing up for yourself is not that easy. I think if you genuinely believe that a child who has been molded by their parent for all their life to think that what they're experiencing is the norm and it happens to EVERYONE because it is just the way it is would be able to just walk away from it easily... well, then you're the one with the wrong information.

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Morte99, you have no idea what you're talking about, go back to school!!

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