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Role model for my kids??? NOT!!!


Before you fellow IMDBers jump all over my post, I just want to say something: My son was watching the show with me and said, "He's kind of chubby isn't he? That Jamie Oliver?".

I am a 38-year old woman with two very healthy teens at home. My son is on the baseball team and my daughter is in volleyball and track. Sure, they have junk food every so often, they are teens! I cook for them at least 5 times a week. I am employed full-time and as much as I could use a second set of hands... I am a single mother. My husband was in a car accident with a drunk driver and we lost him 2 years ago. He exercised, ate healthy (although he loved MickyD's french fries), and was a successful businessman.

Here's the thing, Jamie's not a sex symbol. In fact, he's not even a hot guy. With teenagers watching this show, why doesn't he start working out? He could stand to lose some weight himself and gain some muscle. On the weekends I have BBQ's for my kids and their friends... When a boy saw a picture of my husband, he said, "I wish I had abs like those". My daughter then told him it was about exercise and eating right. She used my son as an example.

That's what kids want. This is America. You have to tell them that looking good COMES from being healthy. Not just get healthy, save your lives. Teens don't know about life being short, health is not their main goal now. They want to be cool, pretty, and popular.

Have you seen Curtis Stone's pictures? Sorry Jamie, I think you have the right idea, but you need to hit the gym!

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...you're a superficial idiot. The show is not about getting a six pack, it's about eating healthy. In fact it's actually been proven that people that are slightly over weight live longer than people that are in peek physical condition. If all your interested in is muscles than make your kids watch jersey shore. They're some good role models there. So STFU and quit your bitching.

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Wow! Someone got their panties in a bunch! Well, I knew this would happen. I didn't say I thought the show should be about getting "a six pack", but realistically teens don't want to be the "slightly over weight" guy. They want to be the LL Cool J's and Blake Lively's of the world.

I'm just saying, if you want teens to get excited and follow someone as a role model, give them a little of what they want as well.

If it was Brad Pitt, do you think there would only be twenty or so parents involved and that handful of teens?

BTW: @Flyencrow you might want to start with spelling, yes? The proper usage is You're and not Your. Perhaps the Jersey Shore is more YOUR speed ;)

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Yeah, obviously you don't know the show's history. The reason it's Jamie Oliver and not Brad Pitt or someone like that is because they DON'T CARE about this. Jamie Oliver has been passionate about this for years. He is only just bringing it to the US. He's received awards about his activist work around England, so he's not the brand marketing you had in store. I am sorry. I guess we need to build all of our activists in Brangelina's body for people like you to pay attention.

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Blake Lively? Who makes a living portraying a rich girl on a show about party, sex, money and drugs, with a best friend who has severe eating disorder called bulimia? Why would we want a role model like that, instead of someone of a healthy weight, albeit a bit chubby (but hardly fat!) who's satisfied with his body and is an EXPERT on food and cooking and hence knows what he's talking about??

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No, she’s not a superficial idiot.

I would viciously defend Jamie’s goal because the situation is clearly degrading quite badly, however, she does have a point, sort of.

She isn’t saying that Jamie is bad, but rather that if you want to get kids’ attention and get them to listen, you have to understand how they think, know what they want, and basically trick them.

For example, these days, you don’t spank a bad kid anymore, a much more effective punishment is to discipline them by embarrassing them in front of their friends and peers. I recall a video on YouTube last year of a teen girl stripping on her webcam, then her mother walks in and sees her, but instead of screaming at her, she starts to dance and strip a bit behind her until the girl turns around and sees her mother then freaks out. One of the comments to the video indicated surprise that the mother didn’t flip out or hit her. I explained that embarrassing her like that is a more effective punishment for the modern youth.

It’s the same here. If you want kids to eat better, you don’t tell them that it will save their lives or help them avoid diabetes, even if it will. The problem is that kids are young, feel great, and have their whole lives ahead of them, so they think that they’ll live forever and that all these bad things won’t happen to them (we felt the same when we were young, as did our parents, and their parents before them).

im_nekorb’s (valid) point is that if you want to get kids listening and eating better, you don’t play on their (non-existent) fears about health or mortality, but rather things that they actually care about like their physique and popularity. That would indeed work much better for the kids (both the younger ones and especially the high-schoolers).

However, im_nekorb is missing a couple of points. [1] This show is not really targeted at kids. Yes, Jamie spends a lot of time trying to educate the kids in the schools, but that personal contact and information is more effective than it looks because we only see a bit of whatever has not been edited out. [2] While Jamie may not be a “hottie” (though he is quite cute and still looks like a kid), he’s hardly fat, especially compared to the people he’s trying to help. Besides, the problem is that eating healthy is only half of the equation, you still have to get some sort of physical activity, and unfortunately, Jamie is just so busy with so many things, that he doesn’t have the time to exercise (or even spend much time walking; there’s a lot of driving or flying). I’m sure that during the off-season, when he’s got fewer things to do (ie not spending so much time with the show), he gets more activity and is slimmer.


Yes, you have to manipulate kids the right way if you want to get them to do what you want. And yes, Jamie is role model, at least to the parents and administrators if not the kids.

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Wow Synetech made so much sense to a crazy lady's gibbersh comment. I bet im_nekorb’s is a Orange County MILF.

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What are you really teaching your children by stripping in front of a webcam on the internet? That seems like an awful idea and a mom that is willing to do that on the internet A) doesn't value their professional career and B) Is just like the daughter willing to make an ass of themselves on the internet for all to see (even if her motivation was different the outcome is the same so like mother like daughter). Modern youth aren't different then any other youth sure they have facebook and smart phones but they still learn in the same ways children learned 60 years ago what has changed are the parents and their values. You can teach children how to eat properly without playing to their vanity especially if you do so before they get to high school when they are less receptive.

Parents teach their child their values whether they realize it or not you don't have to manipulate your children for them to understand that something goes against their values that they learned when they were young. If like the OP one of your values is to be vain and superficial then your children will pick up on that its not surprising that her children think like she does.

Unfortunately lots of parents don't know what a proper diet is so their children never learn to eat healthy and now we are just passing our bad habits from one generation to the next and ending up with health concerns in children we have never seen before. Making our society more vain won't solve the problem ad men have been selling us the idea of what the perfect physic is and playing to our vanity for years. That doesn't motivate people to take on better eating habits it just causes a vain society that tries to look better through other bad habits like diet pills, steroids or bulimia.

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i find jamie quite sexy. think it's the accent.

Secondly whose to say he doesn't work out? Just because a person doesn't have abs and isn't slim or muscular doesn't mean they aren't healthy. AS long as the body mass is where it's suppose to be, all is good, and jamie while not toned isn't slovenly

Thirdly, while teen culture is focused on the superficial of looking good and being muscular, that's not exactly the basis of this show, nor are teens the major focus as it's all children.

Fourth, i find Curtis cute but not all that

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im_nekorb - I understand what you are saying, but I think you are really missing the point of the show. Jamie is about being healthy and eating right, and making better choices, not about having six abs. He is about creating reform in school lunches and educating people, this is not the biggest looser. He is not a trainer who is focused on helping people loose weight. I find him inspiring and educational. Would I hire him as my personal trainer at the gym? No. And that's not his goal. But if I was a school administrator I would hire him in a second to develop a healthy meal plan for my school district.

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Exactly right, cfire. This is not a weight loss show like The Biggest Loser.

Yeah, Jamie could go to the gym, but he's also a father of four kids, a husband and he's in the spotlight a lot of the time so he's obviously a busy guy and I don't blame him for not being ripped like spastics from Jersey Shore.

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I think Jamie is HOT. WAY hotter than Curtis Stone.

For the record, I'll take a guy with heart and soul and brains, who really cares about people, (and who can cook... and the accent doesn't hurt either!) ANY DAY over a guy who spends his spare time getting ripped at the gym. Jamie knows what's important. I'd rather take my cues from him than from the superficiality of teenagers.

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Totally agree. I've thought Jamie's hot for years. Was disappointed that "The Naked Chef" didn't mean what it implied.....

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Hahaha! That was a lovely visual. ;)

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Probably because I don't actually own a TV, umm, who is Curtis Stone? I am guessing someone from Jersey Shore.

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What are you doing on the board for Jaime Oliver's Food Revolution if you don't own a TV? ;)

Curtis Stone is another TV chef: http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&b iw=1024&bih=430&q=curtis+stone&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g10& amp;aql=&oq=

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I hope this post is one long joke that only americans get...

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You're 38? And a woman. Jeesh. Reading that garbled tripe really hurt my neurons. You should appoint a vasectomy for future procreation. Just to save US the trouble of dealing with people like you.

I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.

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You're 38 years old and you find the need to jump all over Jamie's looks like a high school bully? Your life must be a real bore since the result is acting like a 15 year old. I bet you peaked in high school too. Why don't you try growing up and teaching your children to be good people instead of judging everyone for whats on the outside... if they have the same attitude as you do, the nerds and fat people they picked on in high school won't give them a job.

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uhm, that's being indulgent... So you would tell your fat kid "oh well, you don't have to be thin and fit, just be a nice person"?

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Well I sure as heck wouldn't tell them that they are ugly and that nobody in society will ever accept them. Hopefully, you wouldn't either. It's true, I do value being a good person over being a skinny but as long as you feed them healthy and promote exercise, I don't think it matters much if they are stick figures because they are healthy. I also won't teach them to judge other people based on their looks. I'll admit I was a little angry when I wrote that, but the thought that someone is teaching their children to be that judgmental makes me sad. I would never want my children to be responsible for the pain of another. Even if I didn't agree with that person's lifestyle.

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Well I sure as heck wouldn't tell them that they are ugly and that nobody in society will ever accept them. Hopefully, you wouldn't either.

Actually, I would never let my kids get fat. Exercise, exercise, exercise.

I do value being a good person over being a skinny

Being healthy doesn't mean being skinny. And why do you consider being skinny as the opposite of fat? It's slender/fat, healthy/fat, but not skinny/fat.

as long as you feed them healthy and promote exercise, I don't think it matters

If you do all that, it is mathematically highly improbable that you will be fat.

I also won't teach them to judge other people based on their looks.

Well, looks has to do with a lot of parameters. I never judge someone because they are short or physically ugly (bulky eyes, weird teeth, etc) because that is pure genetics. You cannot blame a person for having big ears! Being fat however is a personal choice.

the thought that someone is teaching their children to be that judgmental makes me sad

I agree. But sometimes constructive criticism and honesty is considered a judgment.

Even if I didn't agree with that person's lifestyle.

So, you wouldn't criticize someone for having chosen to be a thief? For me, it's the same thing. I would never criticise someone's sexuality, clothes, cultural background, etc but since when are we supposed to accept laziness? And being fat is not a personal choice, it affects all people around you. From the people that have to share a seat on the bus with, to your employer, to your kid that won't be able to play with you coz you can't keep up.

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"Being fat however is a personal choice."

Many issues, both physiological and psychological, can lead to uncontrolled weight gain. I promise you, the kid who gets picked on day in and day out didn't CHOOSE to be fat.

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Many issues, both physiological and psychological, can lead to uncontrolled weight gain

People keep using this argument for decades. I promise you, the percentage of overweight people who are in this category are very, very, very few. Obviously, I would never criticize someone for something they have no control of. It's like mocking someone for being blonde or red-haired. It's not up to them.

the kid who gets picked on day in and day out didn't CHOOSE to be fat.

Actually, he/she does, whether they know it or not. The problem is that kids have become lazy today. Plus, they don't know who to turn to to ask for help and feel to ashamed to talk about it. Gym teachers are incompetent and nowhere near to being educated in that area. And the fat kid will want to stay fat to defend himself from the people who make fun of him. There are many aspects and reasons to why a kid doesn't want to get thin.

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This must be one of the most shallow posts I've read - especially since it implies that it is serious.

The target audience is perhaps not teenagers. It is more targeted to adults, who are in charge of a household, and need tips about how to feed the family. Of course it's good to watch it together with you kids to learn about healthy food, but there is no need for Jamie to be a teenager idol!

And teens who have been brought up properly do not necessarily have a need for their role models to be sex icons. They are simply not that shallow. Or perhaps they are in America?

By the way. I googled that Curtis Stone guy, and I must say that Jamie is much hotter than him, lookswise. Taste is different, you know. (And I think it's rather American to appreciate those large Jay Leno chins.)

And Jamie's a chef - not a workout instructor, so it's only natural that his programs focus on food.

Make love, not war! I've had enough of all the hate on these boards.

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Amen, brother (or sister)!

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LOl at the guy saying Jamie isn't chubby, Jamie is most certainly chubby bordering on fat. I'm a professional MMA fighter who is in GREAT shape. I eat a lot worse than Jamie claims to be yet am in ten times better shape than him. Jamie is the kind of guy I honestly wish would try to start a fight with me.

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And you'll be broken down and crippled by 50, while Jamie will be chugging along, cooking Christmas dinner for his family and playing with his grandkids long after you're gone.

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Exactly.

While Jamie may not be the picture of peek physic, he is in no way unhealthy.

Like it was mentioned, he is a father, amongst other things. He is a busy person and you know what? He still manages to not load himself up with junk or at least takes in to consideration what he eats.

Most Americans won't even stop to say "I wonder what this is doing to me". that is all he wants you to do. Stop, look at what you eat and how it is affecting you and your loved ones. Because there is a problem in the world that people are not considering this and are dieing of health problems we could easily avoid.

If you want people trotting around on screen flaunting their physic, then watch Biggest Loser.

You can't fake good art any more than you can fake a good meal.

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im_nekorb, are you serious?
I'm turning 20 in a month and no offense but your kids don't seem like the type of people I'd like to get to know. They sound snobbish just like you. This has got to be one of the most ignorant posts by someone distinctly older than me that I have ever read on IMDb. Ridiculous.

“Very few things matter and nothing matters very much.”- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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^This!

This entire thread is beyond ridiculous.

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I have to admit I find it funny that Jamie rants about Americans being too fat when he himself is pretty chubby. Jamie def isn't fat but he could certainly stand to burn a few LBs.

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As opposed to a jack off who obviously drives a penis car. Get lost.

I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.

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Goddammit, when the hell will people learn that health isn't about calories but it's about NUTRITION!

You're not off the hook if you're thin - your insides might be rotting away from all the garbage food you eat. You don't have to eat much of it - it's still unhealthy and deadly if your diet consists of it, due to the lack of nutrition that your body needs to keep you alive.

The big problem isn't whether you're overweight or not - it's whether you eat HEALTHY or not.
You can eat extremely healthy food and still be overweight - 'cause you've eaten A LOT of healthy food.

I'm getting fed up with the amount of idiots who don't understand this simple difference.

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