The actual statements in this film.
1. Statement:
Socialism is like giving the year average final grade to everyone in school, and then this practice will decrease everyone's grade on the long run until the point of mass failure.
a)
In the regular school system failing does not mean you will be starving and homeless, failing in capitalism does mean that.
b)
Stop calling a more just capitalist system immediately socialist.
The real rich are so rich then putting a cap on their riches will not harm them,
but it will make a tremendous difference to the millions of failures.
c)
A more just example for a more just capitalist system would be like, all the good students would spend one or two hours a week to help bad students in their studies, and the students who are known to came from high status families and therefore they get an additional ten A-s each year for that reason only, would distribute these A-s between other students.
These are NOT the A-s that the high status students earned (lets say the maximum grades anyone can get in a school year is 30, currently these students get the 30 grades for their results plus ten straight A-s for their status). These are the additional ten A-s that they get because of status/inheritance/background, ie just for the sake of it. (ie being rich)
d)
Neither in capitalism, nor in school it is always the failures fault that they fail, a more just system must prevent failures instead of catering for them OR letting them rot...
e)
Nobody wants the head of the good students. People wants the head of the students who get those extra ten A-s, for their status only.
2. Statement:
Socialism is bad, because if people are allowed to vote to get the money they want, then they will vote all the money to individually themselves and the money will run out.
a)
Hold on for the moment, isn't this is what Wall street doing right now?
b)
This is exactly why we need regulations, so people will not be able to vote the money for themselves!
c)
These creeps say do not regulate, because it limits freedom, but do not be socialist, because that comes with free for all...??? Stop mixing reasonings from different contexts in the same argument!
3. Statement:
The idea behind 'war on poverty' was to keep failures in a lazy and careless state.
a)
Nobody wants to ensure the good life of the failures! (unless we'd have limitless resources)
People just want more to those who work like an ass but get almost nothing, because the ultra rich owns their asses!
4. Statement:
Reagen said the distant and small group of intellectuals in government should not tell the people what to do, and therefore deregulation is good.
a)
A vile and disgusting diversification from the distant and small group of ultra rich who causes the real problem and who ARE THE ONLY ONES who benefit from deregulation.
5. Statement:
Entrepreneurship and "going into business" boomed, because Reagen cut taxes.
a)
The highest tax grades had nothing to do with new and small/medium businesses in the first place. The tax cuts gave REAL growth to the ultra rich only, and the ultra rich investors lent this fresh surplus money to the new small businesses in exchange of outrageous shares/ownership and interest.
This sounds like as growth was created, but in reality the ownership over the country by the mega rich had become completely cemented.
Even then, tax cuts can be good, as long as cutting taxes is not posed (like they do in this film) as the same thing as deregulation (bad). Regulation is not the same as high taxes. Regulation is putting an end of Wall Street's rampant economic terrorism.
6. Statement:
These tax cuts created 17 million jobs.
a)
These tax cuts created 17 million low-wage slaves, ruled by the mega rich.
7. Statement:
The plumber who gets another truck and expands his business should not pay more tax, because that would prohibit his American Dream from realization.
a)
If he is forced to expand, because he couldn't get by, that means he was not paid properly for his work in the first place, the plumbers would need to represent their interest somehow to get higher payments. The real question is why couldn't he get by comfortably for his hard work in the first place? Because the current capitalist system favors ONLY the people who are rich already OR who are willing to sacrifice their life for a very long incubation period of maddeningly hard work of expansion, in the dubious hope that they can one day exploit others the same way as they were exploited at the beginning. Not everyone is willing to do that just for the sake of getting by in a respectable level. It is in fact insulting to expect this crazed money hungry and money centralized mentality from people (and this is most people), just for the sake of getting by on a respectable level.
b)
If he was getting by all right, but he is greedy and he wants to expand just for the sake of it, then he should pay the price of his greediness in the form of higher taxes.
8. Statement:
Reagen was easy to understand, the more he talked people realized how right he was. Obama's talks are convoluted to obfuscate the truth from the people.
a)
Reagen's talks were easy to understand, because they were designed to a vast number of mostly poor and lower middle class voters and not because it was the truth.
9. Statement:
The prosperity of the American People comes from their own hard work and ingenuity and not from central plans.
a)
When they say the "American People" they are talking about only themselves and ONLY themselves. The CEO-s, bankers and politicians who are in their pockets.
10. Statement:
Its a fatal mistake that a government could make decisions for millions of people.
a)
So why do we have government at all? Ah, then there wouldn't be no one, who'd keep the masses at bay when they came for our heads. So restraining the people is OK to have a government, holding us back when we exploit the masses it is not OK to have a government. (?)
11. Statements:
A large number, if not all government funded plans are failures and money burners on the long run, because that is nature of these plans.
a)
It is not the fault of the plan, when corruption wrecks it. It is the fault of the people who wreck it. The exact same type of people wreck it who are sitting in Wall Street and raking in millions, but not from government projects, just straight from the economy. The problem is not with capitalism and it is not with government plans, in both cases the problem is with *beep* people.
Do not bash government plans, and offer your equally exploitable system.
Do not argue against liberalism/socialism based on its exploitability, when your system is equally exploitable. Maybe the solution would be somewhere between the two systems? Oh but that is EXACTLY what none of the sides want, because then they couldn't rampantly exploit, and that would be bad, right?
12. Statement:
Government funded programs slave you in the form of taxation.
a)
Free for all capitalism slaves you with legal money making scams. (Housing bubble anyone?)
b)
BOTH systems are wrong again, the first one is only wrong because of poor execution, but the second one is intentionally wrong in the first place!
13. Statement:
Mighty government power is wrong, because it wants regulations and it wants to tax us!
a)
We say "it wants to tax us" but what we meant is making you think that all regulations are bad, all regulations are like taxes.
b)
The mighty government power were perfectly OK when they used its might and intervention to decimate the constitution's anti-trust laws creating a free for all capitalism!
14. Statement:
Government takes your money in taxes to put other people's kid in college, then you can't yours.
a)
If you would have had as much money ever to put your kid in college, then the current tax did not make a difference in your situation.
15. Statement:
Socialism is a bad alternative, it has never worked. Its taking from the hard workers and giving it to the lazy.
a)
Nobody wants that kind of socialism.
What people should strive for is a more just capitalism.
To take the excess from the ultra rich and realistically help the poor who has no opportunities at all.
16. Statement:
Government projects are like when somebody has something and the other doesn't, so we hire politicians to take it from them.
a)
Ok, free for all capitalism is, we want to trick people into giving their money to us in the (for the vast majority) false hope that they'll make profit,
(casino or ponzi anyone?) and then we hire politicians to let us escalate this procedure by many levels and then to enforce the profits to us.
BOTH systems are wrong again, the first one is only wrong because of poor execution, but the second one is intentionally wrong in the first place!
17. Statement:
People are becoming dependent on government because of government programs.
a)
There would be no need of government programs, if the free for all capitalists paid the workers properly in the first place.
With the current payment moral, many workers don't go to work at all, because it is simply not worth it.
So then they turn to the government programs for help. So then you rather want to take the program away,
essentially forcing them back to be low-wage slaves? Is this the solution?
The solution would be paying them well AND provide help only to those few who really are in need.
18. Statement:
When taxes are raised above a certain level you end up watching capital and rich people leave.
a)
I can't believe he's just confirmed the answer to Statement 5, almost word by word.
"You never get a job from a poor person" FCK YOU, I DON'T WANT A PISS HUMILIATING JOB FROM A WEALTH-FREAK, OK?
I want proper payment! How can a government force the rich who are allowed to blackmail them to pay me properly? No they can't.
Ok, that's exactly the half of the movie, Ive got seriously tired of this, and I couldn't finish watching it, but I hope you got the picture.
"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec