Just finished episode S07E10 and am I the only one who wanted her to stay married? I mean come on, they got married, tried to annul it but the papers got lost in the midst of happenings, then they meet after years and find out they are still married. I think that's a good calling for an endgame since the show is about to end.
shareI thought that would be a good way to close up her story line. He's from a wealthy family. He could join her in Paris. Then she'll have some spice to add to her story lines. Like, when Angela on "Bones" would suggest spicy story lines to Temperence as she wrote.
shareExactly what I meant. I actually thought the writer to keep her married considering her husband turned up with just 2 episodes remaining and since Jane is going away as well, I thought he would keep her company. lol
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I was happy they followed through with the divorce!!!!!!! I was actually rooting for a Maura / Kent pairing!!!!!!
shareYou and I must be the only ones who were shipping for Maura/Kent! I really like Adam Sinclair and found the Kent character appealing (that accent!), but it seems there's a lot of hate out there for him. I think the writers were heading down that path, but then chickened out when they realised he wasn't popular (maybe?). At one time it also looked as though a Jane/Kent hook-up was a possibility, but that fizzled as well.
A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it. - Oscar Wilde
Oh sure, stay married to a man you barely know just because some sheet of paper says so. Wow, what a nice concept of marriage you've got there...
shareDid you watch the episode? It seems not otherwise you'd know that she dated him for sometime before marrying, knew him enough to claim his innocence even after many years. So why don't you go and watch the episode and we'll then talk.
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And you assume he's still the same man years later? That he'll be aware of everything that Maura has been through? That she will be aware of everything he's been through?
Let me put it differently: Would you instantly say yes to one of your college buddies if you meet him again like 20 years later, not knowing anything about his current life?
Like I said, you have a funny concept of marriage.
You are not seeing the bigger picture. Did I say they should've jumped to bed directly? No. I said they should've stayed married and tried to develop a relationship again. They once had feelings strong enough to get married, they could've built upon in. Develop the relationship, it need not be physical until they were sure. It would have been a clean ending to the show for her character. Also they were still married regardless of your approval. Also *her.
My perception of marriage is just fine.
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I never spoke about them doing things in bed. It has nothing to do with sex/no sex but with the foundation needed for a strong marriage. You were the one calling for them to be endgame just because of a piece of paper. That's not how successful relationships usually start, especially not when one (or both) of the should-be partners is someone like Maura Isles with all kinds of quirks and not-so-ordinary hobbies etc. You don't start such a potentially long-lasting relationship with the marriage license hanging over your head like "you need to make this work!!!" You start fresh, get to know each other again, see where things lead you. And on a more practical note: someone like Maura would certainly like to have a real wedding with proper planning and all. Your inability to see that and your odd need to point out this relationship's necessity due to this meaningless piece of paper just so there will be an endgame, no matter how ridiculously out-of-character it would be, speaks volumes.
shareYou are again failing to see the point. Usual marriage starts with developing a relationship first, true. But there was NOTHING usual about this situation and you clearly don't see this. They were married, had it annulled (which didn't come through), and then met after some years to find out they were still married. They had a good relationship from what she said (her exact word was "passionate" FYI), they could've tried to build one again since they were already married and it was clear that they still had feelings. And the fact that you think Maura didn't have peculiar quirks and hobbies back when she was in school is also amusing. Proper planning? They got married after eloping to Vegas. You seem to think Maura should conform to her own quirks, but the fact is she has been developing throughout the course of this series and has gone out of her conformity multiple times. Your inability to see the complexity of this situation and expecting "usual" from it also speaks volumes. Also don't get so fixated on one word from next time onward, I used the word "endgame" just to refer to the wrap-up of her character's story.
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You're contradicting yourself again. One moment it's "oh they should be endgame within 3 episodes" and the next moment it's "oh they should try to build a relationship." So, which is it? How about you make up your mind first and then we can talk again? ;-)
Also, don't call the atrocities done to Maura's character by the new writers in the last seasons "character development". I don't blame you for forgetting about who Maura really was (btw, do you remember Ian? You know, "the love of her life"?), because her character has been ruined to such an extent that someone watching casually might really think her character has been "developed" while in fact the new writers simply don't know anything about their own show. They completely re-wrote Maura's backstory. They constantly flip-flopped between "she can lie/not lie" -- even in the very last episode again! They dumbed her down and *beep* up her timeline even more than it already was under Tamaro (if you want to amuse yourself, try figuring out at what age Maura went to school, graduated, fell in love with Fairfield, did her studies, went to Africa with Ian, became the Chief ME, and so on -- you'll love it!). And so on. But I digress. Point is, you don't get/stay married because of a stupid piece of paper and an error you made years ago. There is no endgame for Maura here. You can blame that one on the writers too, if you want. I won't object. They knew they were going to end the show and completely messed up their chances to create closure (your "endgame") for the main characters and instead threw in that irrelevant Frankie/Nina crap and Angela's dude and Jane's slutty affair, and so on. So no matter how you turn it, with just three episodes left, making them endgame simply because of that license would have been as silly as throwing Jane at that FBI dude. Not credible. Not in-character. And definitely not a proper ending for a show centered around two independent women.
Where did I contradicted myself? Like I said, I used endgame in the sense that they try to build a new relationship.
The point I'm trying to relay is that the show could've ended with Maura trying to reconnect with him. Forget the piece of paper, forget the marriage, those are just details. The crucial part of this discussion is that she met a flame from her past, the writers could've made her character trying to reconnect with him to end the show in a better note instead of making them go separate ways. Jane reconnected and built a relationship with Casey, Maura could've tried as well if the writers wanted to, even if they didn't last long post-finale.
Yes, I do remember Ian, and yes I do know about the inconsistencies in her character (I've been watching since the first season).
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ct780 you must be the biggest moron on earth. buy a dildo, get a life.
sharecastle and beckett AGAIN. how many smart, intelligent, in control of their lives women have a secret from everyone in their lives marriage from years ago and have no clue they really aren't divorced??? i cannot consider that it would happen to maura or beckett.
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It's a trope used quite commonly. So I'm not surprised R&Z utilised it as well. Bones did it with Angela as well.
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but if you pay attention in the end of the same ep they actually filed for divorce and everyone actually gathered in Maura's house to celebrate the couple's impending divorce, so their marriage is as good as over.
shareI don't think there was anything deliberate to it, but the actress (Sasha Alexander) playing Isles was married briefly when she was younger and it was annulled before she later remarried. It's not really a case of fiction mirroring life, but it's always interesting to spot little moments that have echoes in real life.
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