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Symphony No. 7, Beethoven

posted 12 years ago by bugzim
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Don't you guys got *REALLY* upset by hearing the 'same old' Symphony No. 7 twice? First in an important 'peak' of the movie and then again in the END?

I want to explain myself, I have absolute no criticism against the music, and I know that lots and lots of films have used it, but for me the director was evoking the same feeling of "IRREVERSIBLE" from Gaspar Noé, to a point that I was afraid of reading the ending titles "Le Temps Détruit Tout, STILL" ...

For me it was total distraction to what I was considering a not bad movie, like, "i am doing this movie, its not bad, I have this great actress in my hand but I'm throwing everything away evoking feelings of another movie!" ...to a point I would say she wanted to do a homage to "irreversible" but she was dumb to make it by ruining her movie with the same end of Gaspar's.

[–] creegah-3 11 years ago

King's Speech.

God might, I won't.
-JCVD

[–] benman46 11 years ago

I haven't seen Irreversible or heard that piece of music in a film, so I don't know what you're talking about. As the writer/director is Polish I doubt she wanted to do an homage to Gaspar Noe. Would anybody?

[–] Spellbinder888 11 years ago

Like you I was immediately taken back to Irreversible and it was really, really distracting.

I feel like Irreversible is such a monster of a film that it really owned that music (although I've heard it in The Fall and also the King's Speech of course).

It's only really evocative in the Gasper Noe film. So when you hear it in Elles it just seems incongruous. I still liked the film generally though and think it's underrated here.

[–] beckmesser 11 years ago

Just for the record for all you youngsters out there, the 1974 Sean Connery film 'Zardoz' was also permeated by Beethoven 7.

[–] bugzim 10 years ago

nice to point out beckmesser that it was used in Zardoz :) however my point is not about the use of the song but evoking (in my opinion) a very similar feeling as irreversible evokes (at least for me). I could even go beyond and say the director might have seen it and wanted consciously to refer (I read some interview trying to get some info in this sense but I didn't find any info) because it really bothered and distracted me. I saw irreversible when it first hit the screens, like I don't know even know how many years ago and I never saw it again so it wasn't the case of watching both movies near, if you assumed that. ;)

thanks Spellbinder888 for not leaving me alone here, I came back to the topic a couple of times thinking it was too strange that no one had the same impression I had. :)

[–] doug-643 10 years ago

Yeah, honestly I prefer the eighth. The ninth and the fifth are overdone, but the eighth, not so much.