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The one thing prolifers never seem to get


Abortion wasn't invented in 1973 with Roe vs Wade. It's been a part of human society for ages. All over the world. I'm not saying its right, but its not going anywhere. Ever. It's just a sad unfortunate part of life.

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And it wouldn't go away if Roe v Wade was overturned. The decision would just get turned over to the states. So the "blue" states would have legal abortion and the "red" states wouldn't.

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You are probably right. Or it would be done illegally. Fact of the matter is, its like ingrained in the human psyche.

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And there would many more babies left in dumpsters and bathrooms after proms.

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And what are you trying to say? Did you just recently discovered this?

I don't know ANYONE who thinks that abortion was invented in 1973. Indeed, the case itself involved an abortion issue from years prior. Your post is among the most irrelevant I've seen online.

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actually its not irrelevant. i am just pointing out that this debate has been going on for ages and it always will be. in the meantime, people will be getting abortions. its a fact of life. it will never go away.

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Theft, rape, and murder have been around since the beginning of time too, but that doesn't mean it has to be tolerated.

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those are all illegal, and have never been legal, at least in most sane societies.

abortion has always been debated as whether or not it is good or bad for society.

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"abortion has always been debated as whether or not it is good or bad for society.'

So loose with your words. So certain that abortion has always been debated. In one breath, abortion has been around since the beginning of time, in the next beath, you state that you've acquired knowledge that the topic has always been debated. Debated by who? You mean the pregnant woman who wants one and the people who feel that this is not a victimless act? I'm sure the thieves, rapist, and murderers can all debate with the "sane" society on why what they did should be tolerated.

But what really gets me is that you feel that abortion can be debated as to the possibility of being "good" for a society. If you really meant that society has long debated on whether abortion will be tolerated by a society, than I can comprehend that. But good, as in abortion is good and directly taking the opposite approach of both and saying bad, like childbirth is bad, is what is most scary for one's who are pro-life. The mindset that WE are expendable. That we come from no where, we start our lives when a human says, and not when God created the life when sperm and egg merge to turn into us. Let's say to hell with "time" in general and look under the microscope and find out who we are on this planet. That's one thing science and religion agree on, that humans are created when male sperm and female egg connect. Surely complication occur. Still born babies, potential down syndrome, possible death to the mother during childbirth. If a doctor can diagnose potential serious side effects, can that be dabated with pro-life advocates? Is the real problem healthy non-rape pregnancies that are available for abortion? I know, it's the woman's choice. But it's also the rapist, thief and murderer's choice too, which when you look at it that way, doesn't really hold much weight.

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You can find ancient greek philosophers debates on abortion. by "good" I meant that society is better for at least having the option available.

The fact of the matter is abortion isn't going anywhere. even if it was "outlawed" it would just be temporary. Unlike your other mentioned crimes, that have always been held as bad by society.

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I assume these Greek philisophers were men, who we've been told numerous times, have no say in the matter anyway. Robin Hood is considered a villain? (thief) William Wallace is considered a villain? (murder) The king's ruling that any bride may be taken sexually by a soldier before her marriage (premanuptre sp) was not considered bad at the time (rape). To go a step further, all mentioned crimes are outlawed and, unfortunately, still occur. But abortion due to saving the life of the mother, being raped, or due to the baby having medical issues that would cause serious defect or death may not be so frowned on by those that are pro-life. Being young, single, or poor or reasons pro-life advocates fight tooth and nail to outlaw the available procedure. if these women choose to go in the "alley" to get it done, well, face the consequences.

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Totally! And they think that keeping a child in a world that is so *beep* up the way it is right now is such a right choice.

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I'm not sure why anyone is debating or disagreeing with the OP vehemently. I think they're just stating that people will find a way to get abortions no matter what and they have been around for a very very long time in one form or another. Not only that but the subject of legalizing abortion has been debated and considered for a very very long time.

By "good" I'm assuming they mean that legal abortions present a safer option as opposed to some of the other options that women over the decades have had to use, which could end in serious health issues.

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I don't consider it sad that abortion has always been a part of human existence. Hunger, slavery, poverty, that's been a sad relic throughout humanity. I consider abortion to be just a matter of fact part of female existence.
Women have long sought to control their reproductive element - through organic fashioned contraceptive devices up to using abortifacients. Abortion used to be ancients' way of planning one's own choice of having kids or not & reducing competition for resources. Seems that religion played a humongous impact on this, distracting & redirecting people's attention to connoting an ethical & spiritual element to it.
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