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Why don't people have/use mics?


I'm sorry but I was playing the Parish Campaign today and we kept failing the final part because no one had mics and we weren't working together. Why doesn't everybody use their freaking mics? I mean a mic does come standard with an xbox360 right?

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It is a bit annoying. L4D2 has got to be one of the most cooperative games in existence. If you don't stick together, you're going to die really fast. And you can't really do that if you can't communicate with each other.

Your 360 came with a mic? We had to buy ours separately.

Mars is laughing at us.

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It comes with the Elite and Premium/Pro packages & the new ones slim and kinect. However it doesn't come with the arcade.

I get so annoyed, i lobby jump til i find a team with mics and actually say hello, if they don't answer after about 3 or 4 hello's then i leave and find someone who will acknowledge me.

I'd rip it in half and stick it in bed with me

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I've noticed if others don't respond right away, it can mean they're in a party. I've had that happen and sometimes people don't notice that you're talking at first but then they notice the voice bubble and send a party invite.

Lots of folks like to be in party because they can continue to talk to each other while the game is loading the next chapter.


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I don't know why people don't use mics as there really isn't any good reason not to. If you don't want to communicate nor work as a team then DON'T jump into a cooperative game, play in single player mode with the AIs.

My friends and I have gotten to the point where if anyone who doesn't have a mic enters the game lobby gets kicked with a "sorry, this game's for headsets only!". If they join a session in progress and don't have a mic, how they play determines whether they stay or get kicked.

Given people shell out over a hundred to hundredS of dollars for the console, purchase games that average $60 and another $50 or so for Xbox Live, there's no reason they can't buy a freakin' used headset for about $10 or so from GameStop or on eBay. Though I thought all consoles came with one.

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It's a good point. The lobby leader should have the option of allowing only folks with the mic connected (have you say something to verify it might work).

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Should've gotten the PC version instead. Everyone uses mics.

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I sometimes use my headset, but now i just dick around during the game.

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you have overlooked several factors in this.

some people don't use mics becuase they can't talk. I have a friend who lost his ability to speak following throat cancer surgery. He, like I, love the game, but can't use this one function of the game.

I don't use a mic because i have to play the game with a headset to avoid irritating my family members, and they find me using a mic just as irritating as if i hadn't bothered, with me talking to people through my computer.

I also tend not to use a mic becuase i have so far only found about one sixth of the material said over mic by other players to be relevant to the actual gameplay, most of the time i hear one person grousing about something another player is doing or has done, or arguing over who should lead, or in some cases carrying on personal conversations that have no bearing on the game at all.

i'd rather sit in silence and just do my part, or even go to single player mode than put up with most of that. Which i often do, as frustrating as that is.

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I think those are valid exceptions. But they're also just that, the exception. I don't think the majority of people who don't use mics have the situations you cite.

Also another critical reason for using a headset (if you have one and can use it) is to simply alert people when you've got infected on you. Teams do lose track of each other especially in the midst of a horde attack.

My solution for people with annoying banter, put the person on mute. If all 3 are blathering, I find another group and mark all of them "avoid player" (I use lack of skill so it doesn't affect their profile).

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that is a very valid point mrannah. This is one of the only factors stopping me for purchasing the game i cant stand ppl trash talking down the mic. I found this a particular problem one day on call of duty: WAW. There was a guy who had just joined a match and had never played the game online before and by the end of the match the guy had recevied so much abuse for a lad of about 13 - 14. Being called a noob that he jst left. Why can't gamers jst get along and not argue.

"he is like a peice of iron"

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Don't get me started on what type of yappers are the most annoying! LOL

There are the kids who try to boss everyone around "do this, don't do this, now what we need to do here ..." and try to tell everyone glitches that their older siblings showed them like no one else could possibly know as well. Meanwhile, everyone else is out performing them and they're ranking lowest in the stats for each chapter.

Then there are the guys who seem to really dislike it when the see you're a girl and are a better player. They try to get a rise out of you by being sexist and get increasingly misogynistic the more you ignore or out trash talk them while also out playing them as well. Then they get pissed off because they fail to get under your skin.

I like it when they're so obnoxious it's the other guys on the team that get annoyed and take him out. Most guys are cool and don't care who's male or female, it's just the occasional idiot.

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I am guy who loves to play video games and it does not bother me if women and girls love to play games I really think it dumb to be sexist I have meet women who go oh so your a guy I meet some ladies who were sexist of me for being a guy video games are fun who cares what if your male or female or even an alien lol games are meant to entertain us all and yes some guys and even women can be dumb and be sexist about everything I have a PS3 and I play zero online most the time my nephew has xbox 360 and we played this game togethor I love teaming up with ladies when I am on my ps3 I don't meet many ladies who love to play games because there more worried about having a boy friend or who with who blah blah I'm not the best at some games my nephew like the master at every game like wrestling and UFC I did beat him in UFC 2010 he like you got lucky lol there nothing wrong with ladies playing games and every time I hear a lady is playing a game I am like yes I'm sick of playing with guys because some guy friend get me killed more often then ladies it should never matter if your a girl or guy just as long that my friend got my back take care god bless you and keep kicking butt in games love and much respect always Josh

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Right...so back on topic...

You really don't need a mic for anything, except maybe Scavenge matches against really good people. It's kind of sad actually that you need a mic for campaign. What's there to say in campaign? Follow me, pick up pills. Don't need a mic for that. If you really need someone to tell you they have a hunter, smoker, whatever on them when the character already is SCREAMING annoyingly loud (I'm looking at Rochelle) and the character is GLOWING RED and the infected is making their distinct attack noise, then having a mic isn't the problem, it's awareness level. I don't like talking with random people when I'm doing Campaign or Versus or Scavenge. Why? Because most of the time, mic or no mic, they're horrible at this game and do stupid crap like run up as a jockey to four green survivors all in a group with no distraction. Or spawn as a boomer BEHIND the survivors, then chase after them and of course die without doing a thing instead of just respawning. I have nothing to say to them.

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I find it very annoying as well but I think people have to remember that A: Not everyone owns mics and B: Not everyone in the match will necessarily be able to speak the same language as you.

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You really don't need a mic for anything, except maybe Scavenge matches against really good people. It's kind of sad actually that you need a mic for campaign. What's there to say in campaign? Follow me, pick up pills. Don't need a mic for that. If you really need someone to tell you they have a hunter, smoker, whatever on them when the character already is SCREAMING annoyingly loud (I'm looking at Rochelle) and the character is GLOWING RED and the infected is making their distinct attack noise, then having a mic isn't the problem, it's awareness level.

Not quite. How about the idiots without mics who want someone to give them pills or heal them and they resort to shooting other players to get their attention? I don't mean someone down in the red, most of the time the cretins who do this are still healthy, just barely out of the green. Someone with a mic will ask, plus everyone is different when playing and many DON'T want to be healed the moment they slip into yellow (50 or under). Meanwhile some wusses act like they're about to die the moment they get at half-health.

I've been in plenty of campaigns where some moron decided to shoot at someone with a health pack and it's not evident to ANYONE ELSE that's the reason because we're near a safe house or some place health packs appear 100% of the time (e.g., Death Toll - in the house, in shed, in the cabin, all within SECONDS of each other and near the boat house where there are 4 MORE health packs). (Not to mention a lot of players will heal someone who needs it without having to be asked.) Because it's not always obvious WTF they want, it can lead to 2 or more people engaging in "team killing".

Even teams that work well together CAN get separated and, NO, someone glowing red won't necessarily be in sight right away. When a horde (especially on Advanced or Expert) lay into a team and someone gets dragged off while the others are beating down a horde, there can be a few crucial moments when the others don't see him straight off.

Most of all mics help with strategy, especially if you have players who are new to each other. Everyone who plays develops their own preferences and they don't always mesh with one another. I've had imbeciles without mics start off with everyone and then at the last second just take off as the horde's starting because they want, for example, to use a jesus rock while everyone else communicating decided to fight it out (or vice versa). Which means at the last second you either have to say "screw it" and fight with half a team (I refuse to go after someone who decides to go off on their own), or end up doing the campaign differently just to keep the team together as long as possible (advance/expert).

I would be THRILLED if it were possible to open a public lobby and be able to select whether mics/no mics are allowed. Right now the only option is to sit in the lobby and kick anyone without one but then there's no option once in-game. Don't get me wrong, I've met a few people who DO play extremely well who have not had mics but they are the exception, not the rule. Dunno why it is but most often there seems to be a correlation between no mic = bad players.

It's a COOPERATIVE game, communication is a part of that.

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BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DONT OWN MICS, YOU ELITIST PIECE OF FART

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Here's my take, for why I don't use a mic.

Personally, I can type a few key words and only take up a couple seconds at the most. Things like "Smokers - clear the windows" or "Jockey left" I can clickety out in less time than it takes to pop an adrenaline shot. Hardly disrupts my game. More key issues just get planned out ahead of time, such as who's running gasoline and who's got cover, if anyone's achievement hunting, whether to rush a point or to stay cautious, etc. "No tank yet - save your molys", "Grab adrenaline and Shotguns if we're rushing the bridge"... you get the idea. Doesn't take much time at all, and all you have to do is plan ahead enough to type these plans out when you've got a break in the action.

The best upside? YOU CAN HEAR WHAT'S AROUND YOU. Last night, there was so much chatter I couldn't hear a damn thing. Wasn't even annoying micspam, it was just people who were so overzealously getting organized that you'd be shocked if you heard a smoker before he grabbed you. You'd think a key element in establishing the teamwork to take on a tank would include shutting up long enough to hear him coming.

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