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To be remade in the US? Seeing is believing

posted 13 years ago by mcelesia-1
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Here we go again. Wonderful Ricardo Darín seems to be a magnet for well-intentioned attempts to remake his films.

The first (actually, the only one so far) was Nine Queens, remade as the atrocious Criminal.

Then it was announced that (I believe it was Adam Sandler) had optioned the rights to remake Son of the Bride. Nothing came of it.

Now there are plans for The Secret in Their Eyes and, as just announced, also for Carancho!!

Well, the pivotal concept here is "option the rights." After paying for the rights, producers start working on a script, which maybe nobody likes, or the writers realize that it does not "translate" to another culture. Even if that is OK then you have to find a director, actor, etc. etc. Maybe Sandler wanted to do Son of the Bride, but by the time the adaptation was ready (if ever) he was booked solid for two years!

So, let's wait and see. In any case, Carancho seems a stronger bet than Secret.

[–] marxmax 13 years ago

Well, i've never understood the concept of remakes, but this seems to be a particurlarly bad idea - does the "carancho" phenomenon even exist in the U.S?

[–] WarpedRecord 13 years ago

Does the "carancho" phenomenon even exist in the U.S?

That's a great question. I really don't think it does, though I'm sure there are isolated incidents. Certainly lawyers don't have the best reputation here, but they don't seem that bad.

This film looks terrific, and remaking it for an English-speaking audience is pointless. Learn to read subtitles, people!

[–] mcelesia-1 13 years ago

Well, actually the concept does exist. They are called "ambulance chasers." Makes sense. Lawyers chasing ambulances to convince victims of accidents to sue. We must remember that the lawsuit industry in the US is humongous. In any case, the term "ambulance chaser" does not cover the criminal side of Darín's activities. "Caracho" delivers that to perfection. After all, caranchos are birds of prey.

[–] PoppyTransfusion 12 years ago

I was wondering what carancho means and had been too lazy to Google it. Thanks.

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[–] emvan 11 years ago

does the "carancho" phenomenon even exist in the U.S?

One of the scams was rampant in Massachusetts (and I'm sure elsewhere) a while back. A whole industry of staging accidents to collect insurance money. IIRC, there was even a case where the damage to the plaintiff was severe rather than mild or non-existent as intended.

I think the difference was that this was victim-driven -- they weren't exploited by their lawyers, they were in cahoots with them.

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[–] DoctorDrake 13 years ago

Unfortunately it's easier for Americans to copy some other film and change it a bit to make it more appealing and recognizable for the American audience, than to come up with something original themselves. And if they run out of foreign films to copy, they'll just remake US films from the 70s and 80s.

But it's understandable, to a certain extent. When something is a hit or at least well received in other countries, chances are a remake will do at least fine in the US as well. So the risks are lower. Add a few high end car chases, some special effects, and there you go: money made.

Anyways, if they do decide to remake this film, I nominate Jennifer Carpenter for the lead female role. Compare:

Jennifer Carpenter: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1358539/
Martina Gusman: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1089900/

Carpenter also played the lead in the [REC] (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038988/) remake Quarantine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1082868/). Although I still like the original better, she did pretty good. I think she could portray this role very well.

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[–] snakeye808 8 years ago

Unfortunately it's easier for Americans to copy some other film and change it a bit to make it more appealing and recognizable for the American audience, than to come up with something original themselves.

That's a bizarre statement considering no country in the world comes close to releasing as many original films as the US each year, and no country's films are as widely acclaimed around the world as the films made in the US. I know people hate to admit that the US is the best a certain things, but the US is unquestionably the best at filmmaking, which is why US films make so much money in other countries.

[–] dathaler 13 years ago

I"m with bluesdoctor on this one--cheesy. Oh...and hammy--how many times did Gusman's character shriek "Esta bien?" in the last minutes of the film?

Why remake it? The original wasn't worth the time.

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[–] djsnafu23 10 years ago

I have to agree- this film was very cliched and cheesy. The romance was completely unnecessary, reeked of producer meddling (though could easily not have been- but certainly wasn't dictated by the core of the story. Poor film. Sure it's gonna be a lot worse when Hollywood gets its hands on it. Might work better if someone like LaBute gave it the black comedy treatment.

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[–] spookyrat1 8 years ago

I have to agree- this film was very cliched and cheesy.

Agreed. I find it hard to believe this very ordinary film was selected as the Argentine entry for the Best Foreign Language Film at the 83rd Academy Awards. But I'm not the slightest bit surprised it didn't make the short list. A remake if it ever happened, could only improve on the original, in this case.

BTW OP (if you're still around), this is not a Darin directed film.🐭

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