Homosexuality in Dragon Age - Dragon Age: Origins (2009) Discussion

[–] TopGunSGA 12 years ago

Have you not looked at the age rating of the Dragon Age games

In the UK they are rated 18, meaning that no one under 18 can buy them, so a parent shouldn't really be buying it for there kids. Even if they did buy it and then found out about the homosexuality aspect they can't complain as again they should have figured it may not be suitable.

In the US it's rated M for mature, which again would give a parent an idea that it might not be suitable for their kids

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[–] Harry_Freaking_Potter 12 years ago

LOL.

No.

If you truly didn't have a problem with homosexuals, you wouldn't care if you got hit on.

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[–] wildcardgal 12 years ago

Actually, one of the few things I prefer about Dragon Age 2 compared to Dragon Age Origins is that all the romanceable characters (except one from a separate DLC) can be romanced by player characters of either gender.

Origins is much more limited that way, only two romanceable characters will engage in a same-sex relationship.

And regarding you, it just seems that you're uncomfortable with the idea of gay men treating you the way most men treat women.

'crawl back into my hole' is it? Well, you can just go d** in a fire.

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[–] ttaskmaster 12 years ago

only two romanceable characters will engage in a same-sex relationship.

Cool, which ones?
I've been trying to score with Morrigan, but "she's just not into me" and I keep accidentally becoming more attractive to Alistair instead. He's sweet and all, but too much of a man for a girl like me, ya know...?

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[–] afsb 12 years ago

Cool, which ones?

Zevran and Leliana.

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[–] ttaskmaster 12 years ago

Zevran and Leliana

Leilana? Oh, she's that Chantry woman I picked up in the tavern, right?
She annoyed me... Something about her meant I didn't even consider adding her to the party. I didn't realise at the time that other members would hang around in camp until you swapped them around, though... I thought they were permanently lost like in Baldur's Gate.

I'll have to pick her up and take her along with one of my newer characters. Need some girlie-love in my adventure. Alistair is too much of a wussy stereotype for man-love as well, so he'll have to make do with whatever I conceive for him.
So Morrigan likes the boys, then...? Right, I think I have one that will suite her nicely, then... Mage, of course, but a real eye-catcher for someone like her!

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[–] Warped100 12 years ago

It's an 18 rated game for a reason

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[–] dobraye_utra 12 years ago

Know how many parents buy their kids adult rated games for the simple reason that parents don't know a thing about computer games?

I've seen this phenomenon in action, where the store clerk tried explaining to a mother that the adult-rated game might not be suitable for a ten-year old. Her attitude was to shrug it off as though her son would voluntarily turn off the game if it got too #adult#. Yeah right!

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[–] Warped100 12 years ago

Well that's the parents fault, if there's a big warning on a game then don't blame the games company for making a game specific for adults

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[–] LaraCroftLegacy 10 years ago

Well that's the parents fault, if there's a big warning on a game then don't blame the games company for making a game specific for adults

Spot on and please lets not let lazy parents used cop out excuse that parent don't know about the content in M rated games

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[–] Rick8684n 12 years ago

I wondered what people thought of all this.

I just think it shows that the world is getting more tolerant that it's now in games. OK, so I thought it was funny to initiate the Zevron sex scene with the most Gimli like dwarf I could create in fron of my mates after I'd said, "come see this new game!" Alright, that is childish.

Anyways, Zevron basically will jump on anything at a moments notice. It's tricky to get him to love you, though. It can be done by sort of not pushing him. But don't push him away. It's hard to explain. Just go along with it and "OK Zevron" when he's indicisive and he'll end up forsaking all others. He only did that when my Female Rogue killed herself, though. So I'm not 100% that it'll work if you live.

Liliana likes chessiness. Not in the male parts, no, but in the lines used. I missed her the first time because I thought, "pretty young girls like you," would earn me a black eye. I just asked her how she learned to fight. But there are more opportunities. Basically, same thing if you're a woman and you'll have the comical sex scene.

Also, I agree. This game is 18. Parents stupidity is not an excuse.

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[–] ttaskmaster 12 years ago

I wouldn't say tolerance is such a good thing, mainly because homosexuality isn't so much something you 'tolerate'... It's something you accept as being as normal as anything else. If someone of your own gender flirts with you and you're not interested, it's no different to when a member of the opposite sex does so and you're equally uninterested.

I recently played the Mage origin, with the aim of being the nastiest character I could and since I found Whatshername, the love interest of your Blood Mage acquaintance, such an ANNOYING cow, I had her running around with absolutely NOTHING in her inventory.
Whilst there is always some basic humour in having characters go round in their underwear, it actually felt like some dark, perverse punishment that this kind of character would dish out. Nothing sexual per se, as far as the Mage is concerned, but more psychological especially when they went into the cold-looking area where the blood phylacteries were kept.

I still think Morrigan is pretty darn lovely, though!

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[–] Rick8684n 12 years ago

I guess I agree. "Tolerant" is just the word everyone uses for not really caring any more about the things that the crazy religious people told us to care about.

Also, that is quite twisted. But then I have also had varous party members in such situations. I have made one of the men where only shoes and a templars helm. It looked somewhat like a dominatrix slave or something. Yes, this game allows for twisted things.

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[–] ttaskmaster 12 years ago

>Also, that is quite twisted.
Oh yeah. When I play a nasty character, I like to be properly theatrical and dark with them. I'm not too clever though, so they usually meet their demise fairly early on. My favourite bad guy though is the Casteless Warrior. Goes round choosing the most spiteful and hateful dialogue possible. Pure thuggish hatred and absolute bastard, in every sense of the word! My goal is to get as many of the party turning or leaving as possible!

>It looked somewhat like a dominatrix slave or something.
One of Morrigan's cast-offs, ha ha!

>Yes, this game allows for twisted things.
That's what I love most - It's sophisticated and properly adult-themed, but not OTT at all. I hear that in DA:II your character's dialogue is actually voiced, which is good. I was quite disappointed to have spent ages choosing appropriate voices for my DA:O chars, only to find they only speak the occasional line during party commands. Baldur's was like that IIRC.

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[–] Rick8684n 12 years ago

Yeah, in DA-II you get a fully voiced charactor. As a cost of this, they could only give you humans so you can't be Dwarf or Elf. You also get an emoticon with every line to give you an idea of how he/she will say it. But it's done by a kind of radial menu so occasionally your finger slips. The other day I meant to tell my mage it wasn't his fault, instead my charactor shouted, "All Mages are dangerous! You've proved that today! You should all be made tranquil!" and the guy kind of burst into tears. It was so out of the blue in the middle of this touching conversation that it was really funny.

You should have afew builds, good and bad, to start DA-II with. You get different stories depending on what you did. For example, Alistair greeted me as a dignified King in one build, and then the next time I found him very unkept, homeless and drinking himself into the grave. There a few different side quests, although it doesn't really affect the overall story.

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[–] ttaskmaster 12 years ago

"All Mages are dangerous! You've proved that today! You should all be made tranquil!" and the guy kind of burst into tears.

Ha ha!!
Perfect for one of my chars!!

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[–] sascha-17 11 years ago

Not to be nitpicking here, but shouldn't it be "Bi-sexuality in Dragon Age"? After all: Leliana and Zevran swing both ways. AFAIK none of the PCs are "truly" gay. There are some NPCs which probably are though (Wade and Herren in Denerim), but it's only implied. EDIT: Whoops! Forgot about Branka and her female lover.. my bad.

And yes: The game is rated 18/M, so criticism of it being "too mature" is quite pointless. That's like criticizing a porn movie for showing graphic sex or a slasher film for its graphic violence.

And I like this game's unusual openness about sex. I mean: Looking at your typical fantasy characters (sword-wielding models in revealing armor, basically) and considering the worlds they usually live in and the threats they face, it's kinda hard to imagine these characters *not* bonking each other's brains out if this were real life.

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[–] Rayvio 10 years ago

BioWare have always been supporting of equal rights but in some of the older games the gay/bi romances haven't always been as obvious. in Knights of the Old Republic there's a female party member who can only be romanced by a female player character although apparently Lucas Arts weren't too happy about it according to rumour (don't think there was ever any official word on that though so take it with a grain of salt). Jade Empire offers at least two characters, one male and one female, who can be romanced by either gender and also apparently offers a threesome option
and of course there's so Mass Effect 'controversy'

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[–] nomen_meltdown 10 years ago

As for me, the way I see it, if people want to be gay thats their choice.

Well, there's your first mistake >:-P It isn't a choice to be gay. There's a certain amount of choice involved in how much to present it-- to hide or not to hide-- but we no more "choose" to be gay than you (presumably) chose to be straight.

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[–] averagejoeman2013 10 years ago

No issue. Its might marginally appeal to the 1.4% or for those teenage guys who want to see some computer imaged female on female action. The rest of us ignore like any other pointless part and enjoy the better parts of an engaging game. They had the same thing to a lesser extent in Jade Empire. In the game, I just made sure to kill off Silk Fox and Sky. I guess Bioware is trying hard to appeal. I find it unnecessary but if representation in a video game helps some people sleep better at night..have at it.

Still, I made sure to kill off any of those characters as quickly as possible. I figured if I was to save the world, might as well rid it of all evil...not just the hellspawn.

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[–] fistoffury 10 years ago

I've got standards as to who I hook up with. I don't hook up with other men. So for some guy to hit on me when I don't want him to that's called sexual harassment. Why should I tolerate that?

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[–] ScorpionTDC 8 years ago

... Are you really complaining about being "sexually harassed" by an animated set of pixels flirting with another animated set of pixels?

Man, I wish my problems were as bad as being sexually harassed by a programmable, controllable, non-living object

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