Terrible casting


Who was in charge of casting this film because it is terrible.

I know Tamar hussein is popular with all the chavs who watch these movies but isn't he turkish, his performance came across like a spoof version of the real Pat Tate.

They guy who played Berbard o Mahoney was played by a skinny spotty runt who looked like he had only just left school, in reality o Mahoney was built like a brick *beep* house with receeding hair and came from the midlands.

This totally messed up the film for me and anyone not familar wit the story are now going to be miseducated

Jokes!!!

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I know. Tate was white not Turkish, the guy who played him in rise of the foot soldier was actually a pretty good choice, at least in terms of physical resemblance. Darren Nichols wasn't a half caste asian or whatever talking all this blud, innit busines (that guy can't hide his natural accent at all) he was white too and from essex. The second gunman wasn't anywhere near so big and menacing looking. And like all the rest of these films they have to say faackin cahnt every other second to make it sound authentic, seriosuly I've lived around Dagenham/Essex and even the bad boys don't swear that faackin much.

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Tamar Hassan was indeed a terrible choice, Craig Fairbrass definitely had the physical presence and played the part the way it was written very well and it was a little closer to the real Pat Tate.

Darren Nicholls was really a fat blob who was just a loudmouth idiot who acted like he was a major face in the criminal underworld when really he used to sit in pubs telling people how "connected" he was, his mouth dug him a huge hole.

Neil Maskell as Rolfe was probably the most accurate out of the bunch.

We got to...This is America man...

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I also have very mixed feelings about the casting in this version of the range rover murders story.
In both ROTFS and this movie, the ultimate violent and unpredictable character was always Tate.
Tate was uncompromising, formidable, paranoid and a junkie, prone to violent outbursts as depicted in both movies.
I do love Tamer Hassan, but I don't think that, apart from his size and language, Hassan quite nailed it the way Fairbrass did.
Fairbrass scared the crap out of me I must admit, and according to all sources who actually knew Tate, it's as close to him as acting can portray, and I believe that wholeheartedly.
Terry stone returns as Tucker, but was a little one dimensional here, but you've gotta give it to him to have the balls to play the same character again under a different writer, but I feel he should have injected some more of the Tucker he got to know in ROTFS - the Tucker who was shown to him by Carlton.
It is said that Tucker was rarely seen in a suit, and had hair like shown by Leach's story, so I feel Stone should have argued with the writer on those points too.
Adam Deacon is great playing young London hoodlums, in fact, he's made for it.
Adam hails from the E8/N17 area, and I have lived there and can tell you, when playing those characters he is the real deal.
But as Darren Nichols, the not very bright, overweight cockney Essex boy, no chance.
Adam is still young and still has a chance to learn how to hide his natural north London (Jafaican) accent, but has not managed it yet, and being only of small stature, where as the real Darren was porky just brings the whole character down.
Adam plays Darren as more intelligent than he really is too, as the actor is, but Darren is not, Darren is aloof and vague, and in the 90's, sat in pubs boasting and waffling rubbish about his connections, and probably still does.
Terrible casting definitely, Adam should have known he was bad for this part.
Not taking anything away from Billy Murray, I preferred Vince Regan's portrayal as Steele.
His calm voice and piercing eyes consumes you, YOU knew he was a wrongen, but only because you are the viewer, but, if you met him in a pub, you would have no idea how dangerous he was.
Vince put that across excellently, a great performance.
Finally we have Neil Maskell playing Rolfe this time round.
I think he is, inadvertently, the star of the show.
Roland Manookian played Rolfe the last time round, and I found that character to be a weedy little slave, not to mention a snake.
But Manookian could have easily upped the anti on that character if he was allowed to put a little more of Zeberdee into him, so it shows that Manookian played Rolf in ROTFS much as it was written.
The real Rolfe was no where near as tough as his associates, but was still quite big, cocky and dangerous.
He would rip your face off, rob you of drugs and "open you up"
Maskell was able to show that he is much better at playing scary guys than he had been allowed to before, and his interpretation of Rolfe was the best of the whole movie, the closest of all the main characters.
His scene when buying the guns was excellent, although I doubt the real Rolfe was quite as quick witted to have said such great lines in the heat of the moment on a gun deal that's looks like it's about to go wrong.
For me, Maskell was the best casting.

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Adam Deacon was brought in to play the role because he is a known face in British film, it was a gimmick, simply that.

It seems a mix between this and ROTFS actors and casts would be ideal.

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Guess what another film is being made ffs the first one was rubbish

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