awful (review)


Don't know what the main user reviewer is even talking about. Good grief, this is bad. Nothing but an almost random hodgepodge of anti-religionism, directed at the usual straw-man version of Christianity put forth by atheists and anti-religionists looking for an easy target, a version which--while of course adhered to by millions--nevertheless is NOT the experience of Christianity that millions of others have, and yet whoever conceived and wrote this film simply declares over and over that "most" Christians, or all or nearly all by implication, believe X or Y, where X or Y are obviously ignorant and/or superstitious.

The one minor virtue the film has is that it does include interviews with a very few reasonable Christians (or otherwise believers in God) who do not play the straw-man part outlined by the writers as Christianity writ large. However, their inclusion makes the viewer wonder whether the writing is simply sloppy (because it so often says that Christians in general believe this or that stupid thing, then turns around and interviews people who, by their very presence and words, serve as contrary examples), or whether this is simply an attempt to gain some miniscule level of credibility to the other portions of the film (the "statements against interest" thing, where the obligatory "opposition" is interviewed).

The truth is, in any category of humans you can find examples of ignorance and superstition. I could use the logic of this film to denounce women, Asians, black people, white people, mathematicians, etc. Particularly if I can play to a popular image of one of those categories and bring up one or two examples that seem to confirm it, I can simply declare that women "are" this way without any statistical proof or any attempt to prove the null hypothesis. This is precisely why the film is so lacking in value: It makes no attempt to do anything other than to hand out candy to anti-religionists that they've already eaten before, because it never attempts to prove anything. It just seems to know it'll get applause here and there for really sticking it to the Christians.

The film also indulges itself in the Internet-age habit of declaring a thing to be true merely because it can be thought of as true, or that A "is" B merely because I can say it. You "can" view religion as being in the same category of marketing, and then declare it to be made of the same stuff. I "can" view a rhino as a car, because it has four things touching the ground, weighs a lot, and goes forward and backward, but what is the meaning of doing so?

Then there is the fact of the misleading title, which would lead a viewer to believe the film is about using religion to make money, or--and this is what the film purports to be about, before it goes off on its hodgepodge scavenger hunt--that it is about the similarities between the way religion is "sold" and the way other products are sold. But: 1) The film does next to nothing in the way of distinguishing between the _selling_ of religion and the basic truth or falsehood of religion or belief in God, and so ends up with nothing more than the usual scattershot indications of contempt for religion (as when one interviewee scoffs that when the Bible refers to "the four corners of the Earth," this must mean that the writer thought the world was flat--as if our use of the exact same phrase today means that--and all of this in a discussion about how the Bible surely is not inspired); and 2) it tries to accomplish its purpose, again, merely by declaring A as B, and then using comically oversimplistic or anecdotal examples and/or illustrations to "support" its arguments. (Cf. its segments on hell and heaven.) There is not even the pretense of any evidence that "most" or "nearly all" Christians believe in the version of Christianity being depicted here.

Actually, the whole film reminds me again of just how condescending and contemptuous anti-religionists can be, certainly more than a match for any Falwell or Swaggart.

I'm all for a good critique of how religion is practiced, but this isn't it. Not even close. Save your money, if that's what you're expecting. On the other hand, if you want to see a film that lets you cheer yourself on for already believing what the filmmakers believe, in a smarmy and condescending way, rather than grappling with the fact that millions of Christians are nothing like the ones depicted in this film, then go ahead and see it, and ignore the fact that it's only preaching to the choir on an issue that is much too important for that.

I ran across this film's trailer in the extras of one of the Cinema Libre films, a studio that puts out sometimes a bit amateurish but (so far, from what I've seen) gripping and relevant subject matter about hunger, poverty, colonialism, and human rights. So I certainly am not averse to nontraditional or difficult subject matter. It's just that this particular one is not any good.

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I've just started watching it and I think it's great! I've laughed numerous times already and it's been on for 20 min. Religion is the most ridiculous thing out there to belong to




Americans are simple people, but piss us off and we'll nuke your city.

Robin Williams

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I mean, glad you're enjoying it, but I would've predicted that anybody with your philosophical bent ("religion is the most ridiculous thing") would love this film because it is essentially polemic. To the people who already think this way, it's an opportunity for cheerleading. To those who don't, it doesn't convince a single one.

There are better critiques of religion and false belief out there. Much better.

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It's basically just ridiculing Christians.
I liked the films "Jesus Camp" and "Religulous" that depicted their subjects as humans, but this film is just dumb.

The director seems to think Christians are all one certain way, and he comes off very haughty and conceited.

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Ditto everything you just said. That doesn't happen very often. ;-)

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I laughed at the phrase "reasonable Christian". Don't degrade rational people by calling idiots who believe in supernatural fairy tales rational.

You also implore the famous Christian cop out of "it may say that but it doesn't mean it". The Bible makes reference to "the four corners of the earth" in three different books. Amazing how the all knowing, perfect creator of the universe didn't know that he made the earth an oblate spheroid.

Did the Bible also "not mean it" when it says to stone our children to death? To murder people who work on the sabbath? To beat our slaves? Did Jesus "not mean it" when he instructed his followers to murder the people who did not agree with his teachings? Or when he condemned non believers to eternal torment?

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Honestly, I can't tell if you're so ignorant that you don't know there are quite reasonable, scholarly people who have addressed these questions in this ridiculous straw-man construct of yours, or if you _do_ know it and you're just being intellectually dishonest and deceptive for the benefit of anybody else reading this thread who doesn't know it. Or maybe you're just interested in preaching to your own crowd, a favorite Internet thing to do.

So which is it? Are you so ignorant that you think, for instance, the former director of the Human Genome Project is not a "reasonable" person or a scientist? Are you so ignorant that you're not aware of different and entirely valid interpretations of various passages in the Christian Bible besides the extremist and reductionistic ones you list here? Or are you just plain lying?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! So that blundering idiot Francis Collins is your authority? This is the same guy who says his proof of a magical omnicient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent alien who reads our thoughts, telepathically communicates with us, set the universe in motion, rewards us with either eternal bliss or eternal damnation based on our level of supernatural skepticism, impregnates virgins with his ghost with himself, is a frozen waterfall! Think I'm joking? Here is the exact quote from his book:

"As I rounded a corner and saw a beautiful and unexpected frozen waterfall, hundreds of feet high, I knew the search was over. The next morning, I knelt in the dewy grass as the sun rose and surrendered to Jesus Christ."

This man, and all other theists, are laughably pathetic. You call this rational? This as is rational as me proclaiming the flying spaghetti monster snapped the universe into existence because I smelt the aroma of steak sauce! Actually, it is worse because at least the flying spaghetti monster won't torture us for eternity for using healthy skepticism!

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