Noel - Spoiler


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It kind of sucked the way noel died the way he did, and with no remorse from the girls. Seemed like he did a lot for them and didn't even get a pause of "oh crap, what did we just do?"

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One can argue that both Clara and Eleanor were strictly using him for shelter and as a hideout, showing when they need something they're all business. I can buy this, but it was done rather hastily - I have issues with the script and this would be one of them.

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I understand that. He was such a nice guy and served in a lot of ways as an anchor for them. I really think though that there was too much going on for them to pause and think about it. I mean, I imagine in the two hundred years they'd been alive that someone along the way, important to them was killed because of them. I imagine it's not their first time loosing someone important like Noel. Clara was more concerned about the brotherhood finding them and killing her daughter and Eleanor was more worried about the fact that her mother was going to kill the boy she loved. I imagine his death was very surreal and they just didn't let it sink in as fast as it happened. Even I was shocked but still a little more concerned about Frank and the brotherhood.

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I think Noel was rather an unremarkable character so I think the way he died did justice to his role. I think shooting a scene showing some remorse on the part of the girls would be too much drama already.

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Well he should die with a fall ... of sin - afterall he was not spiritual. And death in an elevator is so Argentian/De Palmian. If not for all the Hitchcock references. This is all symbolic. Don't look for daytime logic.

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I agree, he was a nice guy, but the point was he meant nothing to Clara -she was just using him. She even told Eleanor that if she told Noel any of their story she would kill him. Traditionally vampires often have humans -servants- who do their bidding, and Noel sort of served that purpose for them. He was their 'Renfield'. Clara was raised poor and working class so her casual dismissal of the worth of humans is ironic -much more the actions one would expect from the Brotherhood or Lord Ruthven. And especially ironic when she told the Brotherhood she would champion the weak. It turned out she was as ruthless, if not more so, than the men.

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Indeed, it was very much along the same lines of Let The Right One In.

And a good analogy of how things often turn out in real life - people use other people, and the used are all too happy to let it happen if they think they are getting the attention/benefits that they want. But the truth eventually comes out. Noel was a sad, pathetic soul.

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Totally bizarre, but he reminded me of Gale Bedeker (sp?) from Breaking Bad. He was committing crimes, but had good intentions and a sweet harmless personality.

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