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Hollywood needs to stop naming things after unrelated events


seriously, I saw the and name of the movie and immediately thought of the Greek Romans, epic battles, maybe it would be about the great Byzantine general Belisarius? maybe it was about the splitting of the Roman empire? maybe it was about the decline of the empire etc....


And then you read the description and you are met with utter dissapointment, it's like that other movie tyrannosaur that features a skeleton of a tyrannosaurus Rex on it's cover and has nothing to do with Dinosaurs, it's false advertising and there should be laws against this!


/rant

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Ironic that you should complain about mis-naming and then you refer to Hollywood in your thread title. Funded by the Irish Film Board and the UK Film Council, and filmed in Ireland and the UK, it has nothing to do with Hollywood.

But there again, you are just ranting.

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Lol. Plus Tyrannosaur was Peter Mullan's wife, pretty much what was eating him all though the movie.

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Well at least they have managed a 'slight' reference to Byzantium in the name of the hotel -and I think in the sword at the end?
It is funnily enough one of the curiosities of guest house naming anyway that they often have a name relating to a place other than where they are. I have seen guest houses with Scottish names in Blackpool, French names in London -I'd be willing to bet that if you looked up B&B names in Hastings there quite possibly WOULD be one as strangely named as 'Byzantium'.

I prefer Imaginality to reality.

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Actually I have just looked out of curiocity, and in Hastings (on England's south coast and famous for the 1066 Battle of Hastings) there are indeed some curiously named hotels and guesthouses.
There is the Senlac Guest House, Le Chateau Japonais and the Zanzibar International Hotel, ...
-and Zanzibar is surely as exotic as Byzantium!

I prefer Imaginality to reality.

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Senlac isn't especially curious in Hastings, given it's the name of the hill where the Anglo-Saxons made their last stand at the Battle of Hastings in 1066!

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As mentioned, the sword was from Byzantium...and maybe the title is a hint as to where the movie's vampire lore originated from - where the first vampires appeared. The Empire of Byzantium would fit the bill.

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The title is pretty cool cause it fits the film perfectly.

Byzantium refers to the values of the all male vampire society hunting the women. Byzantine values.

Also interesting is the Byzantine empire was orthodox christian but was weakened by the sacking of Constantinople by Catholic christians to the point where it was quickly conquered by the ottoman empire in the following 200 years. So Byzantium could be a reference to a civil war within western culture which ultimately weakens it to the point where it is taken over by a hostile foreign culture. (islam)

This is symbolized well by the warring (and feminine) mother and daughter in the film, if they don't work together, they will be crushed by a foreign hostile entity. (masculinity in the form of the hostile all male vampire brotherhood)

In this way mother and daughter can be read as representatives of nascent feminine culture and values attempting to survive in a still hostile masculine value dominated culture. (a byzantine culture)

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best post on this forum.

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*beep* When are you *beep* trolls going to get a life, it was fun for a wee while back in 2002, but you nobodys reuse a joke more than Eddie Murphy.



Ya Kirk-loving Spocksucker!

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I wasn't aware Byzantium was an event, I always thought it was a place.

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I find it fitting because the atmosphere of the movie is decadent...as Byzantium surely was at least at the eyes of the Westerners.

Also, "byzantinism" means intrigue and treachery, and after all this is a story that deals with it.

Juliet Parrish: You can't win a war if you're extinct!

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To me, Byzantium stands for Europeans going in decline and having lost to the muslims!

At least we have our revenge with the existence of Israel which is a thorn in the sight of every muslim, but I still long for the day that Constantinople is European again!


Constantinople has nothing to do with stupid vampires.


I was really hoping for a movie depicting Europeans heroically fighting expansionist Muslims when I read the movie title.

We don't have any movies about for instance the great Belisarius, or the fall of Constantinople, the only movie I know of is a Turkish propaganda movie about Mehmet II's conquest of the great city!

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I was really hoping for a movie depicting Europeans heroically fighting expansionist Muslims when I read the movie title.

Only goes to show you have to actually watch trailers and look for info about a movie before watching it instead of choosing the lazy way out and making your own movie out of thin air and a ONE word title.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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