Too American?


I'm not sure that the movie speaks to international audiences so much. Maybe it is even intentional. But myself not being from the USA I had a sense throughout the film that it is a very very American - all kinds of details that many from somewhere else may not totally relate to or comprehend. And at the very end when the new cool dad dismounted, I did not recognize who it was, had to google it later. John Cena might not be so well known outside USA since he has not been in a lot of movies. Although the point was clearly presented that he is a tough guy who is going to roll over mr. Wahlberg's character, I was really expecting some international superstar to arrive, something like The Rock or Vin Diesel, who are instantly recognized everywhere. But overall the film was quite OK.

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Can you, perhaps, list some of the details that you thought were too American for you?

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What's bad about a movie being American? Wahlberg has done movies that are much more American than this. There was not a single flag waving in this fun comedy.
Being a family flick, I thought that this is something a lot of audiences could relate to. Most Western Countries have high divorce rates and patchwork families these days.

I agree that I too was expecting Vin Diesel at the end, but John Cena was simply brilliant! Since he looks like a hulked up version of Wahlberg.

I saw it as a surprise sneak preview in a German theater (hasn't been released yet over here), and the entire audience shouted out "John Cena!!!" when he took the helmet off.
Having been in the WWE (as had Dwayne Johnson) he's pretty well known around the world.

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Yeah that's what I was about to say. Even people who haven't watched any wrestling at all know who John cena is.

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I havent got the faintest idea who John Cena is, but the scene worked for me because he's much bigger than Wahlberg. It was funny.

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the entire audience shouted out "John Cena!!!"


You are just simply talking crap, i have no idea who he is, i wouldnt know a single person that knows who he is, WWE isnt shown on tv over here and hasnt been since the late 80s (i watched it when i was about 4 years old and it was called WWF back then)

to say that the entire audience knew who he was is clearly utter rubbish

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What? That makes no sense....

I'm no American, but I did watch WWE back in the 90's when I was a kid. Lots of Europeans/Asians familiar with "Big guys" in the entertainment business know who he is. Cena was even in the nintendo game which i cant recall the name of right now, and FYI, Nintendo is a japanese franchise ...making the game pretty worldwide-known. At least for boys... That game alongside fifa was immensely popular in countries where the average kid's parents could afford one. And the real deal was aired long after kids bedtime in the 90's in most european countries. So, maybe you just missed it?

John Cena was one of the youngest compared to Hogan, Cold, Macho and many others. He's not an all timer, but you should have at least heard of him since you are familiar with WWF\E....

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Maybe it's just here then. I actually showed a photo of John Cena at work to some colleagues, but none of them could tell me who this is. A couple had seen this film and identified him as "that guy from the film".

As for the details of being "too American" - for instance all the building of a treehouse seems to be like a "must" in all kinds of kids movies, also the participation of parents in a huge amount of school-related tasks. The treehouse culture has at least not reached here (actually I think erecting such a structure is even illegal since it could pose threat to life) and the school is just a school, I personally never saw any kind of parent involvement in any activities, we have paid teachers and professionals for coaching and other stuff. The disappearance of the father would also not be taken lightly here, as such "dads" would be quickly hunted down for not supporting the kids with money, or if the guy would be somewhere else, then his assets and bank accounts would be frozen. Although the film did not specifically tell us that Dusty didn't support the family financially, it also didn't imply that he did.

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I actually showed a photo of John Cena at work to some colleagues, but none of them could tell me who this is.


If you carry a photo of John Cena around with you wherever you go, then you MUST have at least HEARD of him before...

What's going on? What's all this shouting? We'll have no trouble here...

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Or, genius, he carries around this little device called a 'smartphone', capable of conjuring pictures of practically anything with a few simple clicks.





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Hahaha! Great response. You said exactly what I was thinking.

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well I am not carrying around a photo of John Cena (although I should, everyone should). actually I didn't show it on my phone either. I was giving a class to some co-workers with a PC and a projector and just took a minute to show the photo on the wall and asked whether anyone could tell me who this person is. WWE has never been a big thing here, but The Rock has been in a lot of movies. I am quite sure that actually here 95% of the people would recognize immediately Rowan Atkinson and Jackie Chan and 100% would recognize Chuck Norris. But John Cena... nope.

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well I am not carrying around a photo of John Cena


Yeah, I know...

I was giving a class to some co-workers with a PC and a projector and just took a minute to show the photo on the wall

I wish I had been in that class so that I could see how that segue went...

What's going on? What's all this shouting? We'll have no trouble here...

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100% would recognize Chuck Norris


This movie isn't for the over-40 crowd, it's for the under 30-crowd, all of whom known Cena.

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The treehouse is a good example of movie shorthand for "something all kids would like but it's a huge amount of work and parents don't have time for it." They show up in a lot of movies but personally I only know one family who actually has a treehouse, and that's going back over my whole life. (I am 44 and live in the US and always have.)

Parent involvement in school, yes that is a definite thing; US schools are so under-funded. It's very sad. Not all parents have the time or inclination, but there is a lot of work to be done by those who do.

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Here we go...not every American has a tree house no matter what fictional movies would have you believe. Also, while there is parent involvement at schools movies like this exaggerate it for the comedic effect. No wonder people from other countries hate Americans...they believe everything they see in the movies!! 

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The treehouse culture has at least not reached here (actually I think erecting such a structure is even illegal since it could pose threat to life) and the school is just a school, I personally never saw any kind of parent involvement in any activities, we have paid teachers and professionals for coaching and other stuff. The disappearance of the father would also not be taken lightly here, as such "dads" would be quickly hunted down for not supporting the kids with money, or if the guy would be somewhere else, then his assets and bank accounts would be frozen.


Dafuq. Where do you live?


Can't rain all the time.

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Are you joking? Millions of people around the world are big Wwe fans and know who John cena is. How is that remotely even an American point?

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He's an American wrestler, pretty much unknown to the world outside of the U.S. EXCEPT to a few million international WWE fans. That's a few million out of several BILLLION people outside of the U.S. So, yeah, most people outside of America have no clue who he is. JMHO.

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SPOILERS!!



I had no idea who John Cena was (my son did), but it was obvious as soon as Karen's daughter yelled "Daddy!" and ran right past Dusty that he was just bigger, cooler, more aggressive, and was going to beat Dusty at his own small-minded game. I thought it was a great ending.

The last half-hour was the best part of the movie--still super-funny, but actually showing some moral growth on the part of a character who seemed unreachable. When Dusty started dancing, I laughed so long and hard that I completely embarrassed my poor son.

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Exactly my thoughts on the ending, funny but at the same time sending a really nice message. Would have rated it 7 but thanks to the ending gave it an 8 :)

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It doesn't need to, it's a comedy based in, guess where, the United States of America. Do you expect to be pandered to?

Are the French, Polish, and Swedish films I watch (and enjoy) too French, too Polish, and too Swedish?

I don't expect Guy Ritchie to force his entire British cast to speak American English, it would ruin the film.

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Yes it was too American

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This whole post seems insane to me! It's an American movie, of course it will be filled with American references.. but most of the western world has grown up watching American media, it's normal.

I don't know where you are from but it seems odd that you would find any of the references out of place. I am from the UK, and personally have never been interested in wrestling but I've heard John Cena's name many times, though I didn't know it was him in the film. But I still almost wet myself laughing at the scene because the actor's identity was not important for the joke.. the guy had as Wahlberg put it "legs for arms" - hilarious, it was just showing a guy even bigger and beefier than Wahlberg. How is that not internationally recognised?!
I would struggle to find a (mainstream) movie that doesn't contain easily hundreds of country specific references. I don't even know why I'm here explaining this, I just found it such an odd opinion I had to reply!
Peace out.

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