Was it simply because Rose had used the telephone cord to hang herself?
And she was just a crazy kook who was just mad because Mary didn't want to talk to her?
This is the only thing I don't understand.
Never should have told a stranger her or anyone else's full name.
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I think Rose was always crazy, hence committing suicide after Bobby left her. Even before this though, we get the idea she is crazy based on her very first phone call: we see that she is a jealous, paranoid woman who is too dependent on her husband.
I think she targets Mary because Mary upsets her multiple times. They have one heart-felt conversation, and that is the one where Mary puts the idea in Rose's head to kill Bobby. After that, Mary flips out on Rose and this makes Rose upset because she is terribly lonely and in denial of her own craziness. She then kills anything that threatens her relationship with Mary (George, John) because she wants Mary all to herself.
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Rose hung herself in that apartment, so usually wherever something traumatic happens there's some bad vibes. And spirits allegedly haunt the places they've spent most of their time. Also, Mary engaged the spirit by talking to her and answering personal questions about herself. This perhaps gave the spirit (Rose) power over her. Interesting fact: during exorcisms and rituals done to expel a spirit from a place, people who are not priests or holy people are warned not to speak directly to the spirit, because engaging the spirit can give it power over you.
shareI thought that Bobby had an affair with Mary's mother who got pregnant with Mary. (Since Rose did say Bobby kept cheating on her and Rose was obsessed with Mary and her mother. Then coincidentally (or not) Mary ended up in Rose's apt. Sounds weird but it is a horror movie. Both Mary's Dad and Bobby were in the military and died (or disappeared).
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I think that the reason Rose targets Mary is that Mary, by answering the call and speaking to Rose, has messed with time. If Mary had not answered the call, then Rose would have gone ahead and killed herself, and therefore, Bobby would have survived, as would have the gardener and John. Everything would have happened as it was supposed to happen.
Rose is already wrong in the head when she makes the first few calls, and Mary's not hanging up right away is continuing to influence events that would have otherwise not happened, and she is fuelling Rose's sick mind. It may be that after speaking to Mary, Rose now feels some kind of connection to her because of her intervention of the events that should have really occurred.
Or it may be that Rose feels some kind of resentment to Mary that although Mary helped her find the power to destroy Bobby, that now she is also without the man she loves and that the murder would not have occurred had Mary not suggested it?
There are alot of reasons really, but the main answer is really that Rose is psychotic and has it in her mind to kill Mary and that's all we really need to understand.
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I don't think she was targeting Mary, after all how would she even know of Mary? If it wasn't Mary that picked up the phone but someone else that moved in the same thing would have happened to them. She was calling Bobby and never got him she was getting that apartments phone number 30 years into the future. In her timeline she called Bobby and then killed herself but now she is talking to someone else, and puts off killing herself until she can talk to Bobby. I just thought of one big plot hole. Why would you move into an apartment and keep the old phone number that obviously the tenants before you have used? That phone number has been there since '79 if not longer. Most people would get a new number or transfer a phone number to not get calls from people that once used the phone line or to keep there number people know to reach them at.
shareWhat I dont get is how can Rose be calling Mary when its the same number as Rose's?? I mean Rose lived in that house, she buried the bodies. How is she calling Mary from the same number?
shareBasically, the phone is haunted... a bit of Rose's spirit is trapped in the phone that she used to kill herself with. Even when the timeline changes that connection is still there.
As for why she chooses to stalk Mary... I'm guessing it's because Mary, at the moment of the first phone call, is as depressed and desperate as Rose was... in that same room where Rose hung herself years earlier. Mary acts as a sort of unwilling medium with the phone acting as a sort of ouija board/crystal ball.
Maybe the actual phone number has changed... but the number printed on the phone is the old one... that's the one Rose is calling... but since it's kind of a magic phone at that point I don't think it matters.
I don't think there is any implication that Bobby is Mary's dad though... there is a picture of young-Mary in the hospital after Rose burns her and there is a man at the bedside who I took to be Mary's father... and he doesn't look like Bobby (assuming Bobby is the guy in the 'Christmas 1979' photo Mary finds.
The phone can call across time but you're worried about the technology? OK, how's this: When you call your own number, you get a busy signal because the phone's in use, but when you call across time, the future phone is usually not in use so the call goes through.
shareI think Rose was a little kooky to begin with. But Mary remarked in an off handed way that Rose should just kill Bobby and be done with it. So Rose listened, which probably sent her over the edge. She saw Mary as her only friend in the world after that and when Mary rejected her it turned her even more psycho. That's how I saw it anyway.
shareMore like HOW?
If Rose was in the apartment in the 70s how is she calling Mary's phone number when they technically live in the same apartment.
I get in the beginning of movie when Rose still lived in her own place and she called her boyfriends apartment number, but after she kills him and moves in? I can't find a logical explanation on how she would do that. Unless she just called her own phone number and that wouldn't work.