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Retards...Grade A Retards

posted 13 years ago by cyguration
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Wtf? That's a good way to sum up this Gantz movie. I'm not an anime geek nor a fan of anime, however I loved Casshern and it goes down as one of my all time favorite live-action movies. Someone suggested Gantz and The Fountain, given that they work on similar metaphysical tones.

Now, as a story...I think Gantz is one of the coolest sci-fi, metaphysical movies out there. The philosophy behind the story is weak but the concept is wicked.

Nevertheless, I hated Gantz more than I liked it and here's why: Whiney, no-brained, retards. I'm not talking stupid retards I'm talking full-blown, grade A retards. Seriously, wtf?

I understand that the first experience was harrowing and uneventful, they had no experience and no idea what was going on. I understand that they would rather run and shoot later.

But then...then...the second time the thing kicks in I would have scrambled to put on my suit without asking questions and grabbed as many weapons as that ball could carry. That girl was practically useless and that old dude DID NOTHING! I was almost tempted to turn the movie off these retards pissed me off so much.

I know people complain about Yanks being stupid, but I sure hope Japanese kids over there wouldn't act the way the kids acted in this movie. Otherwise they'll be a new winner on the world block of stupidity.

I just hope in the sequel they dump all the retards and get a few people who have...balls.

[–] degenererad-3 13 years ago

Have you seen the gantz anime? This movie followed it pretty much to the spot, at least half of the series.

I had the same thought as you at first but then again im not a humble japanese either. You still have to put in the context of the mentalty and society. I really liked this just because almost everyone were pretty clueless as they should have been in this situation.

OK i would have gunned up in both hands right away just because of the weirdness, then again that is a usual mental state in my mind, better safe than sorry. This might not be everyones usual thought pattern though.

Just because you are used to reaction to action doesnt mean everyone is, just what im saying. Fight or flight mode is not active in everyone. I think more people just stand around shocked or go to hide crying when *beep* hits the fan.

[–] tatsu2050 13 years ago

Well my first thoughts were pretty much the same as the first poster wrote it. Then I thought "hey, if you're confronted with something as abstract as this being a completely normal person with no fighting experience whatsoever... a state of shock would be quite normal and understandable". But... they don't look purely shocked. Someone shocked would do absolutely nothing but stare wide-eyed. If you are in a mental state to raise your gun and run around you are definitely capable of pulling the trigger. So especially in the showdown I have to say: Complete agreement with post no.1 - A-grade retards ;)

Somehow I still managed to have fun watching the movie, though.

[–] cyguration 13 years ago

All right, unlike you I wouldn't have gunned up the first time. I probably would have been killed or nearly killed the first run through. But if I survived for a second encounter, then yeah, I would have grabbed a gun in each hand, too. LOL

[–] Strazdamonas 13 years ago

even considering different culture and different line of though, by the third time they should have at least remember to use weapons that is the only thing that WORKS.

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for enough good men to do nothing.

[–] oscar-nilsson 13 years ago

Thing that I found most disturbing while watching is that they never freaking fire their weapons. WTF is up with that? they are equiped with some OP Alien deathstarcanon and never use it? serious wtf on that one :p

[–] cyguration 13 years ago

Yeah exactly.

I understand some people might be reluctant to use space-age tech, since it might be like X-Com and you fire the thing and it blows your own head-off and maybe some of it needs to be researched first. But in this case, they're specifically GIVEN weapons to use against the aliens and Gantz wants them to kick butt and take names.

Instead, the Grade-A retards spend all their time holding out their guns and not squeezing the trigger. I'm no John Wayne but I would have closed my eyes and at least pulled the trigger a few times as opposed to having my face raped by razor-claws.

[–] aoi-nozomi 13 years ago

Well, I seriously don't get why you keep saying this is retards.
Honestly I haven't watch the movie yet so I can say nothing about it. But will watch it soon. Though I want to reply you before I watched it ><

I will just say, go read the manga. I guess the movie followed half of the story the anime did. And the anime only covered about 1/4 of the manga. In the manga, tons of stuffs happened..
In manga, during the 2nd mission everyone did wear the suits and brought weapons beside a few newcomers who refused to wear and Kurono (who forgot to bring the suit). Even Kishimoto killed 2 alliens.
Everyone besides Kurono Kei died during 3rd mission, the 1000-arms mission (the status thing).

[–] skye2001 12 years ago

Usualy most Japanese movies,anime and manga are this way.Most of them are so slow paced that u need to read 4 weeks worth of manga to see one action end or 4 episodes of an anime.Google eyes and big tears might do for kids who read/watch this things but im not sure it works for adults with decent IQ.Prolly the japanese culture is to blame for it or maybe that western culture got so hectic the last few decades.Anyway remembering The fist of the North star or Akira and browsing trough anything in the last 10 years or so it's sad to see how the japanese entertainment degenerated as hollywood did too...Too bad good ideas and stories with lots of potential r demolished like this.

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[–] drucom 10 years ago

I felt the exact same way. I thought the concept behind the movie was very clever and they could've made a truly awesome film out of it. I haven't seen any of the original stuff so I can only base my thoughts on the film, but I wanted to stop watching it half-way through, and only finished out of sheer force of will.

Several of the characters were completely irrelevant and would not affect the film were they to be removed.

I don't know anything about Japanese culture but the message I'm getting from this film is that beautiful Japanese girls will fall for you if you're a cowardly, borderline-autistic manchild who freezes when under duress instead of choosing to fight.

How many scenes in this film involve a blank-faced person looking in awe for minutes on end instead of shooting their damned guns and ending it?