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So Carl died for nothing now


Thanks Walking Dead writers now not only did you stupidly kill off one of the biggest characters from the comics but you also just made his death and sacrifice pointless. He gave his life essentially to bring Saddiq into the group and it gave them a doctor, had Saddiq remained alive Carl's sacrifice would have always benefited the group and kept them healthy.

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Carl died because "the future is female". That's it. They just couldn't say that in the show, obviously, so the whole Siddiq thing was just a bullshit justification. In today's modern climate, Judith (and the other women) had to become the focus, and that's just the best way they could think to do it.

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Carl died because he was a WHITE MALE.

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That was true at the time. Now, perhaps you've noticed, even all of the non-white males are pathetic. Not just on this show, but many others. The movement is advancing.

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Carl died because of Scott Gimple's stupidity.

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I don't know the man, personally, but it's possible. I don't know if Gimple is riding the "future is female" train or not, but the stupidity of said train is, indeed, undebatable. The orders probably just came from the top down while he was #1 puppet. It's irrelevant, really. Regardless of who makes the call, the political/social agenda is the at the root of it all, as further evidenced by the ridiculousness in last night's episode.

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I read that he was killed off because he wanted to renegotiate his contract since turning 18 and was having a larger role in the show, so he felt he deserved more money. Needless to say, the negotiation didn’t go over very well.

Although I definitely agree with the whole “let’s get rid of all strong, moral male characters and replace them with women” bs that’s been going on. Especially if it’s a white male, then they have a target on their backs. I’m getting sick of watching small skinny women/girls beat up multiple trained, larger men constantly, or every male character be either a villain or an incompetent goofball. This doesn’t happen in all movies, but it seems to be more and more common. It’s actually kind of embarrassing for women that the media thinks they need to constantly be shown “girl power! We can do anything men can do, but better!” or else they won’t have any self esteem.

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If that's the case, I kinda see the show's point, as his acting abilities aren't exactly "top dollar worthy". Ideally, you'd hope that something could be worked out, but you know that the suits will never budge on money, and changing actors mid-show is always a weird thing, but... It's a shame that the show's quality and the fans are, ultimately, the ones that take the brunt of the damage.

Totally agree. I just don't understand why realistic strong women aren't enough. They're all across America, everyday, as are strong men. I understand that there have been larger-than-life male action heroes; your James Bonds, Jason Bournes, etc. But, it's weird to me that in shows/films in this modern movement, basically every single female involved is a Bond or Bourne. And, yeah, sure, this exists with men as well, in things like "The Expendables", but like in that movie, the concept has a sense of humor about itself. It's in on the joke. Although, with these "strong woman" shows and films, we're actually supposed to take it serious. Very serious. And, if you don't, you're an incel, or misogynist, or just an overall bad guy. I'm not sure what the "hot word" insult is for women that feel like we do. I think their opinions may just be swept under the rug.

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Whoa Nellie!! You actually believe this? Call me when the shuttle lands!

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Here: Everything left-leaning, democratic and liberal is right. Everything right-leaning, republican and conservative is wrong. Does that sit better with you? I sometimes forget how simple the minds of hardcore partisans can be.

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No I just don't subscribe to these CTs and this obsession with "feminism". It's ridiculous. I can only assume people like this don't get out much because their tether to reality is perilous.

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CTs?

If you don't see women getting the upper hand in modern society just for having a pussy, then you are the one that clearly doesn't get out much. And it's not "perilous" lol, it's just fucking sad. I feel truly sad for modern white men that hate themselves for their genitals and skin color. I can only hope that it's some sort of masochistic kink; that way they can at least get some pleasure out of it.

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I feel bad for you. And don't feel sad for white guys. This white male is doing quite good, TYVM. White males have plenty of opportunity in this country. I am just stunned that people have the perception that the white male have it bad in this country. My guess is that they have made some bad decisions in life and want someone/somebody to blame. Fairly common defense mechanism.

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Cultural trends, maybe?

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I said something similar about Carl and Saddiq in another thread recently...
As far as all this talk about killing off all the males....I don't know...sometimes it seems possible. I'm a woman and while I like strong women I also like strong males. I do see them getting shortchanged lately and I am not a fan of this trend..
So don't blame us all.
I think most straight women do not have a preference for just strong women leading the way in tv and film. We enjoy the men too.

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"I think most straight women do not have a preference for just strong women leading the way in tv and film. We enjoy the men too."

Definitely. That's what makes this whole movement so odd. That's what makes it seem like a top-down agenda. Most of "the people" aren't calling for any of this, yet it persists.

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Bet Coco would disagree ;)

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The entire show has become written so haphazardly it's ridiculous....and killing Carl was just one of those moments.

Writers: "We need to do something shocking again. Let's kill off Carl."

Just irks me at how bad the show has become...with little thought to end game or future story telling. Hell the cast is starting to leave the show and they still want to keep this thing going? Just end it.

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You’re an IDIOT. There’s still millions of viewers. Why would the show runners listen to your drivel

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Can you even read fuckwad?

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You wrote it should end. Your life should end. If you don’t like it don’t watch it then you dumbass.

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TWD has sucked for quite some time. The fact that it is still going is more a reflection of the vapidness of today's television viewers.

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Carl died to save money pure and simple. Chandler Riggs contract as a minor expired when he turned eighteen and they were unwilling to pay him what the other adult actors were earing.

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MEDIOCRE ACTOR PLAYING A SHITTY HAIRCUT HAVING DWEEBUS.GOOD CHOICE AMC.

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Seriously he sucked so bad.

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The actor that played Carl sucks ass. He was so annoying I applauded when he died.

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The creator of the Walking Dead comics and tv series has (stupidly) said he does not want a cure. He wants to keep the storylines going where people war and come together-more waring rather than coming together, I think. If the doctor had remained alive viewers would have soon wanted talk and activity regarding finding a cure.

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