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This movie was awesome until...(spoilers)

posted 10 years ago by bcronrath
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...Ellen page got her head blown off. Seriously was enjoying the hell out of this movie until then. Completely killed the mood, and I could honestly care less about the fighting that followed because it was predictable as hell what he was going to do from there on out.

Then the whole epilogue afterward was one of the corniest, sappiest monologues I've ever seen, it was a complete cringefest of an ending. Awful dialogue and a retarded "message" to say the very least.

It's a shame the entire ending sequence of this movie was so lame, it pretty much made me completely forget how good of a movie it was up until then.

[–] Suntory_Times 10 years ago

What about her being shoot did you think didn't work? I think the film would have been better had both died. I agree thwt Ellen probably had the most character of anyone present and the wife was litlle more then a plot device that makes much of the endijg somewhat hollow.

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[–] willson_x 10 years ago

Well, not really, only if you don't place any importance on having a wife and everything you know that having a wife means, then you can't possibly understand, but I don't have a wife and I completely understood how important she was as a symbol. Calling her a "plot device" in the first place is where your problem starts, how do you manage to think of films like that? It's so cold and hollow....

[–] ngot121 10 years ago

Well, the way I see it is... Boltie had to die. Otherwise, there would be a lot of things that could not have been wrapped up in a pretty bow for the ending of the movie.

If she didn't die, Frank would have had to introduce his wife to her. Slightly awkward.

Also, what would she do after? She can't continue to be a sidekick to a superhero that's retired. He wasn't going to continue fighting crime now that he had his wife back.

[–] mmablaster 10 years ago

It was a very shocking sequence. I don't think it ruins the movie. If you get shot at there is a chance that you can be hit in the face.

What I can't understand is how Frank doesn't get arrested. His license plate was seen by quite a few people during the leg smash scene.

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[–] Glaivester 10 years ago

I think Libby had to die because unlike Frank, who had a clear goal that, once met, would make him stop being the Crimson Bolt, Libby would have kept doing the superhero thing for kicks and hurt a lot of people.

She was always in it for the thrill, without really a huge sense of justice, and would never have been able to stop.

[–] koffeenkreame41-1 10 years ago

I think Libby had to die because unlike Frank, who had a clear goal that, once met, would make him stop being the Crimson Bolt, Libby would have kept doing the superhero thing for kicks and hurt a lot of people.

She was always in it for the thrill, without really a huge sense of justice, and would never have been able to stop.

Agreed.

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[–] iffy619 10 years ago

Wow I didn't think of it like that. There's always a chance that she could have changed but yeah, you make a good point.

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[–] dxben99 9 years ago

I think that was the best part and the only moment I actually laughed during the whole movie! :)

[–] Chrispy_G 9 years ago

Her death was a total punch in the gut. I love the bittersweet ending...it is a very sobering switch-up from the happy endings many films typically have.

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[–] GhostUtmost 9 years ago

He does all that and she STILL leaves him. I say he was totally misguided and that was the proof. The one act of pulling a junkie out of a drug house is in no way redeeming enough to make up for dropping cinderblocks on people. Perhaps if he would have kept it up and toppled the Mexican cartels or something, but saving one disloyal chick like that was not worth all the mayhem.

[–] mk1974 9 years ago

I do think it could have been done better. It's quite a shocking moment. I had no idea it was coming. It was actually a little too shocking, I think, and it took me out of the movie for a moment. The shot lingered a little too long on her half-head, too.

However, as others have said, she did have to die for the plot to work out. And I thought the end was pretty good, to be honest. But I didn't like the way Boltie's death was handled very much. I know it's hard to find the right balance between coldness on one end and melodrama on the other. Most of the time, movies err on the side of melodrama. This one erred on the side of coldness in that case.

[–] nxgn_not_not 8 years ago

lotto things I wooda changed

that's not one of them

did not c it as cold either

butte that's jus' moi

yer missin the hand of gawd aspect
the finger of gawd

the whole gawd videos

sum rilly heavy 5 h ! t heres

might have 2 re-wind

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[–] Zombie55 8 years ago

So even though she raped the main character in the film, when she died you still felt sorry for her?

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[–] Zombie55 8 years ago

I must say, having watched it myself, I found myself unbelievably touched by how devastated, emotional and heartbroken our main superhero was when she died, especially considering the fact that previously, she raped him.

And when he was not only crying when he saw her dead body but also at the end when he saw the picture, I actually was crying myself.

God such an UNEXPECTEDLY touching moment. (I never, for example, saw Thomas Jane's character cry in "Thursday" (1998) after Dallas was shot for doing a similar thing to him.)

Anyone else kinda felt this way?

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[–] dg135 8 years ago

Agreed.

[–] Zombie55 8 years ago

At the very least, his truly honest reaction indicates that he has WAY forgiven her for the deed and I'm sure he won't hold the grudge. He wouldn't have been as devastated and emotional even at the very end if he had.

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[–] croat-hr 8 years ago

I agree that this movie did not need a moralistic-preaching, feel good ending.
They should keep the original tone and kill Frank, or better yet - make him completely lost it, going to the mental institution, or even better - make him become a full blown serial killer, why he still thinks that he's a good super hero guy, saving the world by the instructions of God.

But killing Boltie - that was a good choice. I really liked her, and I was sad that she dies, but this way they kept the film on the ground floor, not forgetting what it's really about (it's not a super hero movie. It's a satire and a character study about deranged people doing crazy *beep* believing that they are good).