How can it be rape if.........
Frank was sexually aroused by Libby? If a woman who I was not sexually attracted to forced herself unto me, I highly doubt that I would get sexually aroused by her.
shareI don't mean to sound angry but are you *beep* kidding me? You must be about 13 to ask this question. I hope you're just stupid not plain ignorant. Men get raped by women a lot more than you think. I'm assuming you're confusing sexual attraction with sexual arousal. For those of you over 16 in the class, you may know that any number of things can make a man aroused, including but not limited to: Cold, heat, time of day, altitude and excercising. If a woman jumps on top of you and is trying to initiate sex, your brain doesn't take into account sexual attraction, it understands that someone wants to mate with you and sends an appropriate response. The opposite of a man becoming erect is a womans vagina lubricating herself in preparation for intercourse. Having worked with victims of rape, male and female, for a number of years, I can tell you that just because a woman became wet or a man became hard certainly doesn't give someone the right to have sex through force.
That answers the last part of your question, in response to the original: 'How can it be rape if he was sexually aroused by her?' Because although he may have been aroused by her, in his mind, he was still married and therefore didn't want to have sex. He cleared said no and she still went ahead. It was rape.
Not that I'm completely disagreeing with what you said, but if you're logic is correct, then if Whoopi Goldberg or Monique (two female celebrities who I'm not attracted to) had tried to initiate sex with me, then I would become sexually aroused?
I've never worked with victims of rape, etc...but I've had women in the past who have tried to seduce me and failed (I wasn't sexually attracted to them). I guess the human body works differently for each person in regards to human sexuality.
Actually, yes. Done like this you would. Unless you have erectile dysfunction. She actually handled him for a while before having sex, she pulled his privates out. If a 90 year old obese woman, or even a man, fondled you there, you will get aroused.
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If a 90 year old obese woman, or even a man, fondled you there, you will get aroused.Hate to break this to you but NO you wouldn't unless there is something seriously wrong with you. The two posts that say guys can get it hard without intent is absolutely full of crap. Men with mental disorders maybe but that says more about the mental state of the two guys that posted those remarks then it does about reality. If a NORMAL man doesn't find the person attractive at least on a subconscious level, NOTHING will happen. share
This is incorrect, science disagrees with you. Absolutely nothing you just said is grounded in reality, and it's honestly common sense. Just think a moment about it. And what you just said is actually quite offensive to those who have been sexually abused. A big part of the trauma, is not only the act itself, but later on since they were aroused they blamed themselves for it or were conflicted to the point of thinking they wanted it, even if they clearly wasn't allowing it to happen at the time. Have you never heard of people getting erections on accident? If it can happen with absolutely no stimulus whatsoever (generally teenager), without sex even crossing ones mind, an unappealing person actually stimulating it obviously can, regardless of the person's appearance. It's like saying flinching when someone acts like they are going to hit you, is voluntary. Most people do flinch, even if they are told it's just to make them flinch. It's a reflex, and natural. Just as if a sex organ is stimulated, it will respond regardless of circumstances. In fact, the opposite is the case. If something didn't happen, it's a sign that something physically is wrong with the individual.
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Amazing. I hope there's a field where you actually know what you're talking about, because what you know about human sexuality wouldn't fill a brochure. In science, we do this weird thing where we actually measure stuff, instead of taking our personal experience and assuming that's a natural law.
OTOH, I'm glad you've had so comfortable a life that you're able to believe such a pleasant fantasy. Millions of men and women who've been raped have learned the hard way the body responds, even when your brain is screaming in pain and revulsion.
PS. I'm not claiming to be one of them, just someone who reads science rather than making crap up.
Seduction isn't the same as holding someone down and forcibly stimulating them.
shareThank you for this. One of the first thing rape victims of BOTH sexes are taught is to not feel guilty or dirty if their body responds against their will. It happens. Just like women can become wet when raped (the body's natural response is to lubricate to prevent painful friction) and even orgasm, men can become hard. That is not consent. It really, really bothers me that there are people in this world who don't get it.
shareThank you for this. One of the first thing rape victims of BOTH sexes are taught is to not feel guilty or dirty if their body responds against their will. It happens. Just like women can become wet when raped (the body's natural response is to lubricate to prevent painful friction) and even orgasm, men can become hard. That is not consent. It really, really bothers me that there are people in this world who don't get it.
This.
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It was NOT rape. The legal definition of rape requires "FORCE". Physical force, not just mental manipulation. Bolties was all of 5'0" and 100 pounds. Frank was about 6'3" and 225 pounds. He could have sneezed and knocked her across the room. The only way Boltie could have possibly "forced" herself upon Frank is if she had a weapon. Otherwise, no force.... no rape. Don't confuse "statutory rape" where force is not an issue with what happened between Boltie and Frank.
shareThat definition doesn't appear to be widely accepted, just look at the footballer Ched Evans who was recently sentenced to I think 5 years in jail because the woman he had sex with was drunk and thus 'incapable of giving consent'. All 'rape' seems to be placed under the same banner these days: non-consentual sex.
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She doesn't remember but there seemed to be little suggestion that she was actually unconscious, simply that she was too drunk for any consent she did give to be valid. Its a law I find quite disturbing, one which means tens of thousands of people are technically raping each other every Friday night, and whether one of them are sent to jail or not depends on a highly subjective retrospective assessment. Even if guilty, it seems to fall under the category of taking advantage of someone, which seems a very different crime to that associated with rape (generally conceived as an invasive violent act). Alcohol is a drink for adults because it does put oneself in a vulnerable situation and you have to take responsibility for the acts you are involved in. A drunk person being raped, i.e. being physically forced to engage in a sexual act, is clearly illegal. A drunk person engaging in an act but their consent being deemed invalid is a completely different situation and I worry that the law will fail to distinguish between the two.
shareI hope you're just stupid not plain ignorant.Dictionary please.
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