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audio/video tracks and dvd comparrisons


hi all,

i've noticed that the english voice-overs differs, wether it's the american history channel or other stations and my local danish dr2, that shows the series.

while i enjoy the american dubber, he often does many things for the history channel, dicovery and national geogrpahic - so it struck me in a good way; that my first viewing was with a different narrator.

i'd very much like to buy the series on dvd, if i could only get the version with the lesser known guy and i am not sure it's the one included in the french region 2 dvd ( however he sounds very british, so perhaps it would make sense ).

why i use so much time and energy, you wonder - you see I found differences in the actually telling too.




Example(s):

during the japanese attack on pearl harbour, the british narrated version states and exact number of casualties to the empire of japan. whereas the american history channel edition states that 'less then 100 japanese were killed'.

without being overly political here, i wonder if it's to cater to an american audience that must be angry and sad for their families' losses, that the vague estimation of dead soldiers on the axis side, was stated mildly, so it could be percieved as a heavier toll?


Furthermore, some visuals were omitted in the us history channel version, for example a japanese soldier looking at the blade of his sword - while the voice-over tells of beheadings of insubordinate prisoners.

However, what i did notice on the plus side was that a b-25 pilot crew shot down over japan, the european programme sounded as if all were sentenced to death. Whereas the american told that 5 were given life in prison and "only" 3 death, instead.

Also, so and so pilot survives an attack on a japanese carrier and goes on to become an airline pilot after the war - an american seaplane rescues him, we are (only) told in the US bit.

During this raid over Tokyo, the european angle doesn't tell the exact ammount of bombs dropped, stating 'only a few'. The american tells of 16 tonnes

In general there is a slight increase in images of japanese planes going down and people shot dead in the History channel's take.

One shot of an anzac (austrailian) soldier slips and falls, while we are told of malaria, leeches and "the japanese" as their many enemies, was cut short, to reveal a longer shot of imperial japanese infantrymen, making their way in the terrain, instead.




BUT, a plus to my knowledge, is that the american show, translates various texts written on walls, newpapers etc. througout; as well as pointers about what battle is taking place before our eyes - and nametagging famous general/leaders.

My notices are only based on episode 4 of 6, but I'm sure there must be similar notes in the entire series. I wont bore you, I think most of you get the jist already.

Little things can mean alot.


Total runnig time of the 4th episode:
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American ed. 47 minutes
European ed. 52 minutes


= And closing with that, your honours, I rest my case.



ANYWAYS, i'd very much like help with figuring out where to get either a dvd release or even a download, containing the british sounding voice-over.

Also if it's 2.0 or 5.1 sorround sound, the english track is mixed for. I would think the french region 2 disc only has 5.1 in french, to save disc-space ( as with most dvds).




I hope all of this could maybe also help you out, with finding the exact version you enjoyed the most..

any and all help would be greatly appreciated.


thank you for reading :)


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those words i do not remember uttered, when i saw the english narrated version, before seeing the national geographic one - that to me seems to have been cut down and cahnged around.



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I've only watched the first 10 minutes of the French version (not sure if it was broadcast version or from DVD) and 5 minutes of the dubbed broadcast on TV English version and I see that the English broadcast version is less graphic, showing the bodies lying in the Berlin street scene much less then the French DVD (?) version. I'm not sure I will watch it first, think I'll watch the French version first because it was very shocking to me, even though I don't understand French.

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i am happy that you mention this about the broadcast version in the uk. I did not know this existed until a few moments before typing these lines.

i found out yesterday, that the dvd released in the us now has the same running time, as i noticed on the french dvd set. And a reviewer over at amazon.com, noted that it was indeed 'the french version'. and not narrated by martin sheen.

to this, someone asked if the dvd was narrated in french and if the us disc sported english subtitles. no answer was given, yet.

i remember the voice, that spoke english on my local danish television, when it was first broadcast here - and it was neither a 'martin sheen' version or what i would like to call 'the pro-america or americanized' narration as i wrote about in this threads initial post.

maybe this was the uk version, that was shown where i live, which would make sense. but i need a youtube clip or something, to confirm my suspisions.. as the series is no longer available for free viewing online here in Denmark.

any and all help with finding a accurate dvd comparrison is much appreciated!



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I can now confirm, that the region 1 boxset of Apocalypse, labled 'the french version' (although narrated in english) by a customer, over at Amazon - indeed IS THE SAME; as I originally saw on Danish DR2 TV

This means, that it's neither 'americanized' as I noted in my original comparrison of the National Geographic Channel - Or a version mentiond in above post, told by actor Martin Sheen.


It also sports english subtitles, in both the show and on original french extra features.


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Hi there. I just bought this here in Canada after watching it on National Geographic Channel, and the broadcast version I originally watched had a British narrator.
However, the DVD set has an American narrator!

The American narrator is also...I don't want to say inept, but it sounds like this is his first time doing it.
It's like when BBC "Americanized" Planet Earth and had Sigourney Weaver narrate.
Really?

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