Ask yourself this!


What will happen when oil supply stops?

How about electricity to the city you live in? If and when oil supply collapses do you think your city will receive a fair supply. I guarantee that other world cities higher on the list will get their share first. Can you imagine everything around you suddenly stopping? No lights or power to run the hospitals or refrigeration to keep food fresh? This is just the tip of the iceberg of course. Think of the city populations at risk. Would everyone start to panic? Would money be worth anything? Those with fresh food would benefit the most. To think this will not happen in our lifetime is foolish. The signs of the system cracking are here already. It just takes a few more pushes. He is right in that we must change our minds on the final outcome to follow sooner than you think. Hope people have their thinking caps on now and have converted cash to gold. The movie is flawed in many ways but the message is clear. Good luck!

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/15/oil-peak-energy-iea

Check out the video interview

in case one is wondering if oil peak will be reached or is already: Bear in mind only a year before this interview the IEA stated 3.5 % decline per year and now states (after gathering actual data) that it is more like 6.8 percent or higher? Double the rate? This means 10 years sooner being 2020 that world conventional oil supply will decline. Countries based their expansion and infrastructure on the IEA projections. He states that 20 years is required to prepare for the shortfall but that was 2030 and now is 2020? not to mention the crunch that will come sooner as demand for oil goes up and the supply is already declining.



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When we say oil production, we mean several things.

There is conventional crude oil, meaning hydrocarbons liquid enough to be brought to the surface by drilling and flow down pipes. This seems to have occurred in 2005.

There is "all liquids", meaning conventional oil, plus condensate from natural gas production (natural gas liquids), as well a bitumen, asphalt-like tar that is washed off mined sand in Alberta, Canada, and in the Orinoco basin in Venezuela. The best estimate for when "all liquids" production will peak is by Chris Skrebowski, who tallies up all known large exploitation projects. These fall off rather dramatically after 2012, and given the very long lead times required for deep water development (where most new finds are of late), its very likely that that all liquids production will peak in 2011 or 2012.

Then there are the total exports available. Since large oil exporters like Iran, Venezuela, Algeria and Angola have local economies that rise and fall with oil prices, and since they often subsidize local fuel prices (versus the export value) to quell political unrest, they consume an ever larger part of the oil they produce. Hence, even before these countries reach peak production, their exports can decline, and while production declines, exports fall much faster than total production. Geologist Jeffrey Brown calls this the Export Land Model. It suggests that available exports will peak before total production. It could occur pretty between 2010 and 2012, and the decline of available exports will be much swifter than the 2% decline expected from a Hubbert curve.

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Actually, relatively few areas depend on oil (i.e. gasoline or diesel) to generate the bulk of their electricity, most use coal.

Though its true that most DO depend on diesel-powered trucks or trains to deliver the coal to the power plant.

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Up here in Canada a lot of our power comes from hydro-electric plants. We even sell off some extra power to the NorthEast US. We should be using electric cars up here, but we are not. Why?

There are many solutions but all get suppressed to keep the oil scam going. See Tesla with his radiant power, "zero-point" energy, etc. Even the Hindenberg event was meant to kill off the soon-to-be-booming airship fleets. If not for the oil controllers, we could be taking cruises in the skies aboard safe airships today.

The "peak oil" thing is a scam typical of the usual media manipulation and fear-mongering. We are not running out of oil, which is abiotic anyway.

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I have to say, I find it interesting that you believe both that oil dependency is a scam AND that the prospect of running out is also a scam.

Peak oil does not PRECISELY mean that we're running out (though it is indicative of that). It means that we've reached the point where the rate of oil production cannot be readily increased.

There are lots of unconventional oil sources of course, like oil sand, oil shale, etc. -- but these are more complex and costly to harvest than "conventional" oil deposits, where you just basically stick a pipe down and the oil gushes into it.

Many believe that there will never be a day when you literally CAN'T buy some crude oil if you want it, but rather that the cost of extracting the oil which remains will grow steadily until it ceases to make sense as a fuel.


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THANK you! Every time he started in with his 'even if the cars are electric it takes thousands of gallons of oil to make the car to make the energy to make the car to...' blah blah blah blah blah......

I just wanted to start screaming "COAL!! COAL!!" at my TV. And I don't even think coal is a good way to go for electrical production. Neither does he, of course, assuring us that coal can never be clean. He says that word a lot: never. We will never leave Iraq. (oopsie) There will never be 800 million electric cars. (because...?)

What all of this nevering convinced me of is that there are in fact solutions to all or most of his problems, solutions he has to never away in order to keep us sufficiently scared. There is the risk that we will not implement these solutions, of course, in which case the worst of his predictions could come true. But that will be because we didn't so what we could have, not because this, that, or the other thing could never happen.


I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure you're not Hitler.
- Jon Stewart

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What will happen when oil supply stops?

Its not the end of the world?

We existed before oil and we will exist after its all gone.

It may even be a good thing. Teach us to better manage resources.

No - I'm not a hippy. I would miss the creature comforts that modern living allows. What i'm saying is, I would cope. No biggie .........

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If tomorrow every oil well ran dry, it would not mean the extinction of the human species -- but you can bet that the next couple of decades would be EXTREMELY unpleasant. Never mind just being unable to run your car, think riots, think wars over the remaining stored fuel, think shortages of virtually every consumer product - including food....

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Think MAD MAX ;)

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You know, I watch the history channel quite a bit. And there are two events in history that seem to have serious similarities to the modern day. Which would the the black plague and the discovery of the new world.

We have a serious lack of resources to cover the BOOMING population of the world, which was very much true right before the bubonic plague hit. Famine was common, and all the power of the world was concentrated in the hands of a few. Once the plague hit indiscriminately both of those things changed. There were more resources to go around, and it became obvious that God did not favor the elite over the peasants as they died just as frequently. It opened up room for a growing middle class.

Now the new world was discovered in a separate time, when again the population of europe is just overwhelming. No jobs, not enough food, no land left, it's all being exploited to the point of destruction. And, most importantly to the technology of the time, TREES were in short supply. Everything was made of trees, and used for energy as in fires. Such an obvious similarity to today's oil. You couldn't do anything without trees to fuel it. No weapons, buildings, ships, no heat nothing. But then they discover the americas which is many times bigger than Europe with much less population occupying comparatively smaller areas.

So there's two maybe three things we can do to get passed this. Endure a pandemic, which we have no control of and is probably inevitable, or discover new resources of energy/create new forms of energy with technology. I'm not one to really buy into conspiracies, merely because they are overly complicated and at the end of the day the heads of these "faceless" companies have to live the same lives as us all. If oil is gone for everyone it's gone for them too, and it really is smarter for an oil company to invest in research for new and more efficient forms of energy that they can sell at a later date using the funds they make now to back it up. So I'm not really too worried about the future, we always pull together at the last minute as a people to make things happen.

However I do GREATLY enjoy seeing other people running around like headless chickens. That all came out to be longer than I thought it would :/

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But what Adam Smith or Ted Kaczynski make abundantly clear is the need of infrastructure. If the building of a 1 GW Nuclear plant costs 5 billion USD today, in a time of scarcity when factories start to close down and civil unrest, the cost of such a power plant could rise astronomically, and that's consideration there's no inflation, and it is still possible to collect taxes, or that anyone is willing to part with such capital. According to wikipedia, the world population is currently using 15 petawatts of power, in other words, 15000 of such 1 GW nuclear plants.

USA's Electrical Distribution Infrastructure is already in shambles, imagine what will happen once people start cannibalizing it? Like he said, whatever population that was only made possible by oil, will have to die, and what will happen until those numbers drop from 7 billion to say 1 billion(which is perhaps very optimistic) can only be guessed at...

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there is no escape ,at least not for everyone.
the graph he shows in the film of oil/population summs it up.

there about 6 times too many people for a planet without oil.

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