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An energy resource he did not mention


helium-3 from the moon
it will be the next clean and abundant fuel used on earth.

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Been watching 'Moon', have you? ;)

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such a good movie.

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Riiight, because launching stuff into space has been so efficient so far.

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1. Exactly how much energy does it take to get this energy to earth?
2. Replace oil is not just a matter of energy. It is oil the derivative products that oil is "made from" for which we have no alternative yet, regardless of energy. e.g. We have not yet to my knowledge been able to make car tyres without oil.

"The process begins with the mixing of basic rubbers with process oils, carbon black, pigments, antioxidants, accelerators and other additives, each of which contributes certain properties to the compound." from Goodyear.

This is interesting "A rival customer in the scrap tyre market, Coalite, has discovered that it can produce high-quality light crude oil from car tyres, using the same patented carbonisation process that it already employs to turn coal into its smokeless solid fuel. The Derbyshire-based company plans to start commercial oil production in the first half of 2001 and envisages processing 80,000 tonnes of tyres per year." from ...www.forumforthefuture.org.uk/greenfutures/articles/60113

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Hemp

Why has everyone forgotten about Hemp.

Nothing can replace oil?
That's a lazy, callous thing to say.

What about Hemp, for the love of earth.

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I'm not quite on the same page with you re: AGW, and I don't think that solar or wind tech are going to be able to solve our energy needs, at least not for a long time, but I agree that we need to put as much into alternative fuels as possible. Re: your post about hemp and the elimination of all major party politicians, I could not agree with you more. Well said.

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back and to the left

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Which requires arable land or soil/fertilizers and energy(if indoor UV). All of which will not be feasible when the cost of bread is a week's salary.

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We can get oils from whales. Duh.

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Whale oil is chemically a liquid wax and NOT a true oil...duh...

The first principal use of whale oil was as an illuminant in lamps & as candle wax. It was a major food of the aboriginal peoples of the Pacific Northwest, then whale oil later came to be used in oiling wools for combing & other uses. It was also used to make margarine.

With the 1986 International Whaling Commission moratorium on commercial whaling, whale oil has all but ceased to be viable, as substitutes have been found for most of its uses.

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LOL. Did not know that. Looked it up though, and whale oil can be separated (refined) into wax and true oil. So, just lift the moratorium on commercial whaling, and build some whale refineries (could be called whaleries), then all is solved. Whale, baby, whale!

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Ugh, let's conveniently forget that whales are a small, finite resource, and that whale oil is, in fact, NOT the same as crude oil that comes out of the ground. Do some more research man!

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lmfao

like that would be a lucrative business,,whale oil.

only like 1000 whales left

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A better use for tyres would be for housing.

See Garbage Warrior
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1104694/

Website:
www.earthship.com

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lol, that's the stupidest energy resource of them all. Apart form transporting it through space, burning more energy than harvested, I remember reading somewhere that it's incredibly hard to actually process this material and the amount of energy it takes to do this makes it redundant.

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lol nice topic :D

Babak

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You 're right! We also shouldnt forget the sun!! -Not solar power duh!- We can get there get a bucket of 'sun essence' and bring it back!!!! ;P ;P

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At this point, I should definitely recommend watching one other documentary named "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon".

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There are A LOT of other energy sources that he ignores I'm sure. Solar, wind, geothermal, tidal & other types of hydro-power are ALL viable alternatives to oil right this very second!

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