Why did Trank tank ff??


With all that source material how could he *beep* it up?

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I can kinda understand where you have 50+ years of comics, so the thing to do is to not take it all in mind. However, he went a step farther and just took some of the basic ideas of the FF.

What we see and what we seem are but a dream. A dream within a dream.

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He just ignored the source material. I seem to recall an interview with Kate and she said Trank told the cast not to do any research in their characters.

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According to trivia there's a half hour forty five minutes Trank had in his script, but the studio removed. Doubtful it would have saved this, but it could have.


faith begins at the end of your comfort zone.

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He doesn't get the characters like synder doesn't get superman he wanted to change them to give them a new look and it failed

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Anyone think he may have purposely did it so it will fail and it can go back to MCU?

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The most charitable view of Trank (mind, the damage to the home he was staying in and coming into work intoxicated still stands) is that he was given a project he could be ambitious about (as seen in the reports of the early script), and then he got his budget slashed. They wanted it to be a franchise starter, he didn't know how to make a franchise starter, Fox didn't like what they saw, had other people finish a version of the movie they were willing to release. Trank, feeling salty, tweeted his feelings, then quickly deleted it.

What we see and what we seem are but a dream. A dream within a dream.

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Honestly, I love the source material but it doesn't translate all that well to film. The power sets of the characters are odd looking on film making them look a bit silly - Reed, Johnny And Ben all work much better on paper than they ever have on film. It's also hard to convey the deeper family style connections in a short form. Things like Avengers are stories of workmates rather than family so their connections can be a bit more one note and come off believably but with a family it's harder. Also the best FF stuff ends about 1970 and from that point on when they sort of stop aging everything starts to become repetitive treading of water - the 4 main characters cycle in and out of the team to try to keep the idea fresh but it never really feels like it's progressing like those earlier issues did. Again that's another issue with the family thing - if they continued to grow and evolve then the book would have stayed relevant and near the top of the sales tree but where X-Men or Avengers can get around the whole not aging thing by having large rotating casts the Fantastic Four by it's nature is more obviously stuck like a fly in amber. You could just as easily ask why MARVEL has tanked the FF for the last 40 odd years.

As for this particular film, I think it's safe to say there are errors in conception and execution by writers, studio and director all the way through the process. There are some decent ideas in the mix but execution wise it's pretty much a mess.

I don't mind the film, the first third is actually pretty good but it all unravels badly in the last third. I suspect Trank's version of a cut would probably have been better merely because it would have been more coherent than the Frankenstein version we ended up getting. That's not saying it would have been great as it's pretty clear Trank is a big part of the problem and many of Trank's irksome decisions would have been in play in any cut.

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