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really enjoyed it, but was at times confused...


Okay, so I'm having trouble understanding the modern plot, somewhat. Because it sticks so strictly to Shakespeare's dialogue, things get a little muddle for me.

So Glenn (Juliet) is pretty clearly gay, and is sort of teased about it by Josh (Mercutio / Capulet). When Josh, Sam (Romeo), and Gus (Capulet's Wife / Benvolio), sneak out to the poker game, Carlos (Capulet / Tybalt) makes snide comments, I assume about Sam, implying he might be gay like Glenn. Josh is annoyed by this, and tells him to back off. Except Sam and Glenn then kiss, sort of clearly in sight of everyone at the game, and they all seem to be watching, so I don't know how that factors in. Then I guess Josh is worried Sam might be a homo, which is why he chases him down during the "balcony" scene. But Adam (Friar) and Omar (Nurse) seem totally fine with it, and help them hook up in the science room. (God I hope all they do in the science room is hook up, because if there are any marriage implications here it's a bit much.)

Around here is where thing gets confusing for me.

Okay, so the guys tie Glenn to a chair outside. Sure. That's a thing *beep* teenagers do. I'm a little taken aback that Sam didn't have more of a reaction? But maybe Glenn didn't want to say who did it. All right. But then we get to the fight on the indoor basketball court. My understanding is that Carlos accused Josh and Sam of being gay, which set Josh off and started the fight. But Sam tried to stop them because he doesn't want anyone to get in trouble for fighting? Again, this is why the dialogue confuses things. Romeo's reason for not wanting to fight Tybalt is that he's married to Tybalt's cousin Juliet. As far as I'm aware, Carlos and Glenn have no such connection. But then I guess Carlos injuring Josh set Sam off, which is why he broke Carlos's arm, and then (maturely) started sleeping under the bleachers before he could get expelled.

Then we have the two scenes that left me even more confused:

First there's the marriage-to-Paris scene. I'm REALLY not sure what they're trying to convey here. What I read into it is that they want Glenn to transfer? Maybe? I actually have nothing to base that on, I'm really at a loss with this one. I know they can't be saying they want him to marry someone named Paris, because that'd be too weird.

And then the Friar / poison scene. What... What even is that. Was Adam encouraging Glenn to OD? Or something? Again, my nothing-really-to-base-it-on theory is that Glenn ws looking to get drunk because he was sad? Or maybe wanted to get caught drunk so he could get kicked out? I don't know. Because if Sam just thought Glenn was passed out when he found him, all right, the scene is cute. But if he thought Glenn had OD'd and was dead, that was not played powerfully enough.

I'm even okay with Sam and Glenn not dying in the end. Let's face it, most gay films have tragic endings. It's nice to see the one you'd think would have it built-in subvert your expectations that way. But the ending is so sudden. They're found passed out and... then what? Well, then we get Matt Doyle singing, apparently. Which, again, isn't so bad. I wish it'd been Seth Numrich playing the ukulele on it, perhaps. That would've made it sweeter. Or that he'd at least been in that scene somehow.

Overall, I greatly enjoyed the film. Seth Numrich was particularly amazing, but really the whole cast blew me away. Now if someone could just explain the plot to me, it'd really help...

(This is why films need Wikipedia articles...)

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all I have to say is thank you!! You have cleared up A LOT of things for me. There is so little dialogue that is not taken from Shakespeare it is difficult to get a feeling for what is actually happening. I think the film could have benefited from more original dialogue that set the intended storyline and characters a little better, because we are left to do a lot of interpreting. But you have cleared up a lot of stuff which I couldn't understand.

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I agree with you that there is plenty to be confused about. In my mind, what the filmmakers did was a compromise between retaining Shakespeare's amazing text and understanding that it was not going to make sense in the context of the plot (boys falling in love in a military academy). In my view that is why they adopted the device (if you can all it that) of having the boys (all of them that miss out on the trip - how convenient) reading through Shakespeare's play, presumably in English class or as part of a planned stage production. One would expect that, in a military academy, they would more likely stage a play like Julius Caesar, which thematically fits better and the cast is almost entirely male, but let's not let that bother us.

What I think the filmmaker was going for was that these young men were reading through R&J just as Sam & Glenn were falling for each other. Perhaps the experience of reading the play inspired them or perhaps the play allowed them to express feelings that they had but didn't know how to deal with or express. I don't know. But this would explain why the dialogue does not match the plot, they act out their own love drama, with it as inspiration. Perhaps they should have opted for the Shakespeare in Love approach, where, while Shakespeare was writing the play and preparing the first production, his life mirrored the plot of the play. I think perhaps the filmmakers just wanted to retain Shakespeare's amazing poetry, and I can understand why. I have to admit that I have seen many versions of this play (mostly in film) and have read it myself, but until I saw this version, the love scenes never had the enthralling intense impact this version had for me. I suppose that, as a gay man, I cannot absolutely identify with a man and a woman falling in love, but when I watched two men deliver these immortal lines, it absolutely blew me away. So despite the awkwardness and confusion it caused, I was more than happy that the filmmakers retained the original text.

A further point. Shakespeare's plays are adapted to modern times and to so many different contexts, that this adaptation does not surprise me. R&J is perhaps the greatest love story in history, so it is not surprising that someone might wish to make a gay version of it. The main problem though, is that they would have to change the plot significantly. Certainly men have fallen in love throughout history, but even in bawdy Elizabethan times, that would not have been accepted by the families, much less their getting married. The plot would get significantly distorted by the families' shock and revulsion at their sons falling in love. I suppose you could do a completely contemporary version, where gay relationships and even same-sex marriage is accepted, but even then the plot would change significantly.

I remember once taking part in a discussion on internet regarding whether it would work to have a gay version of Guess Who is Coming to Dinner. My reaction was that it would change the story and dilemma completely. Rather than the parents being confronted with their child, against their expectations, becoming engaged to someone from another race, they would be confronted with the revelation of their child's sexuality, which would lead the plot in different directions.

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