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Sandra Episode January 22, 2017


Boy, this has been the most frustrating Hoarders episode I have ever seen. Matt is acting unprofessionally (I would be irritated at her too!), but Sandra should not have been part of the clean-up. There is so much trash and junk coming out of that house, that I do not believe Sandra would even miss it. It is as if the producers want the drama rather than making sure this woman receives the help she needs. Sandra's brothers were easily manipulated by her. Dr. Zasio seemed genuinely upset, but why allow this woman to control everything? Hopefully this ends better than what I expect. Scooping trash into boxes is the ultimate of mental illness. Although she is mentally ill, I have no sympathy for her.

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This is absolutely...WOW! There are 31 rooms in this house, and look at her...

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I have no sympathy for Sandra. The homeowners were such nice guys to let her try to take some important things and she just squandered away the time. Watching her treat the people who volunteered to help her load her truck like sh*t made me want to punch her in the face. Luther was such a nice guy... he didn't deserve the way she treated him.


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she is mentally ill. I do think they were too patient with her. The owners should have just stepped in and said "Matt is in charge. If he says 'trash,' it's trash. If he says 'keep,' it goes to auction."

They let her control things too much.

"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." J.J. Rousseau

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That episode was crazy! I don't have any sympathy for Sandra, either.

For a 10,000 square foot house, I'm interested in knowing how much stuff she had in it. I wonder if she actually had a warehouse to store her stuff in, or if she was just saying that? I'm not sure they ever found out.

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At the time of this whole debacle, wouldn't it have been better for her brothers to obtain a power of attorney and deal with the situation? At some point, one has to realize that the mental disorder had impaired her to the point that she could make no rational decisions and could no longer act in her own self interest.

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My DVR cut towards the end ... Did they ever show if Sandra actually had another place to store those things?

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When I die, I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn't like me can kiss my ass.

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It states at the end she is living in an airsteam on a friend's property. That's probably where the 2 truck loads she saved are being stored.

What I couldn't believe was, they only managed to get $14k from the auctioning of her things. Either she didn't have much of value, or a ton of good stuff had to of been trashed.

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I'm sure mold played an issue in what could be salvaged.

Also, I'm sure she started adding to her hoard on her friend's property. It would be interesting to see her in a future "Where are they now" episode.

"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." J.J. Rousseau

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That poor woman is bats**t crazy and probably way beyond help.
I mean I always kinda feel sorry for Hoarders that genuinely have the choice of whether to Hoard or not to, that's a real struggle, but once they arrive at the point where their choices are completely removed that's when you really see how delusional they are, it's sad how precious rubbish is to them.

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Her brothers need to have her commited, as a danger to herself.

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Sandra should have been committed to an institution so she could get help and also have a place to live. Her brothers should have gone through to see what they wanted to bring back to their homes (also family history items). The auction house takes what can be sold and the rest put into dumpsters.

The makers of this show abused Sandra for their own gain by letting her be involved like she was. This should be criminal.

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I agree she would be better off in a mental facility, but she is not a threat to physically harm herself or others.
Is she a threat to end up homeless? Yes, but you can't throw someone in a mental hospital or care facility for being homeless.

"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." J.J. Rousseau

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You'd rather see her homeless and high functioning insane than being cared for. I'll mark that down.

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it's the law. You can't lock up someone against their will just for being a hoarder or being homeless. She has rights.

"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." J.J. Rousseau

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It's almost impossible to get people committed anymore. I agree with you though.

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Sandra should have been committed to an institution so she could get help and also have a place to live.


You have no idea how difficult it is to actually get somebody institutionalize, do you?

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Those gay guys were saints. I mean I know they brought in A and E to clean up the house for free but they were still way nicer than I would have been.
Also how sweet was the gorgeous dark guy? Everytime he'd get emotional I wanted to jump thru my tv and hug him

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I agree. I think Luther would make a great psychologist. He dealt with Sandra so well.

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They were saints. Just genuinely kind, decent men who were more patient than I ever could be.

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I think that Michael and Eric had the money to hire people to throw everything out of the mansion themselves. Of course, it would have taken longer than 3 days. Don't get me wrong, I know it saved them a considerable amount of money. I just don't think that's why they did it. Those two are very kind-hearted people. Everything in the house, all of Sandra's possessions, belonged to them. They bought the house "as is", including everything inside and outside of the property. They didn't want her to end up with nothing, so, they saw this as the only way for her to end up with some of her belongings back. I don't think that they really thought it was going to play out the way that it did.

They were told that she had nowhere to live and basically had no money. They were allowing her to take, what legally belonged to them, items to be auctioned and mementos. They didn't realize just how mentally ill she really was.
One thing that really bothered me was Dr. Zasio excusing Sandra's downright rude behavior on her disorder. I know that she's mentally ill but that doesn't give her the right to speak/treat people anyway she wants without consequences. I know Sandra wasn't listening and still, after 6+ years, felt that the house was stolen from her but Zasio should have had another talk with her. I would've said that nothing in the house legally belonged to her anymore so she should be grateful that she's getting anything at all. If she continues to be rude and impede the process, she will be removed from the property and leave with nothing.

They gave her way too much control. Back in 2015, Bank of America claimed she was 67 months past due. Oh, get this, Sandra Cowart acted as her own attorney in the legal battles. How did that not surprise me, lol. There are articles online about her, the court cases and the property. BOA tried to sell the house, in January of 2016, for a minimum bid of $731,250 and didn't get an offer. The 31 room house sits on 1.5 acres and appraised for tax purposes at 1 million. BOA held a $1.9 million mortgage that Sandra signed with another lender. At the auction, Sandra told a reporter that she was making arrangements with Greensboro auctioneer Willie Johnson to sell many of her belongings (remember this was one year ago, January of 2016). Certainly, Zasio had this info. Why didn't she bring up to Sandra that she had her opportunity to do it her way and now it's their way, period. I know, that's not professional....

Michael and Eric deserve a humanitarian award. I consider myself to be a "golden rule" type of person but I don't know if I could have been as patient and kind as they were. Their twin daughters are very lucky to have such great role models.
They only have pictures of the outside of the house on FB right now. I can't wait for updates. The world certainly needs more people like Mike and Eric in this world.
They didn't even say to her that she had already hired Willie a year ago and they had arrangements to take her possessions out of the 7266 square foot home to a warehouse to be auctioned. That if she had followed through with that then there wouldn't be as much stuff being thrown away. (There is an article online where Willie was interviewed confirming this to be true).
That just because BOA bought the financial company that originally lent her the $1.9 million in 2005, doesn't mean that she no longer owed the money (that was her reason for not paying). That she fought the case all the way to the state Supreme Court and lost every case. That she should be thankful that she's even there in her van with her poor victimized dogs. That with a snap of their fingers they could have the cops remove her and throw 100% of everything thrown away.
I don't know how they contained themselves.

Whoops, sorry for the ramble, lol. I've gotten carried away otherwise, I would talk about those poor dogs. Cramped in the front seat with her??? Why wasn't there one word mentioned about those dogs?

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Thank you for providing all that information. It was interesting.

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I agree with everything you said. Sandra was quite delusional and unable to process that this entire situation was the result of her own behavior. Dr. Zazio should have known better. I feel like this show definitely took advantage of that, and Dr. Z did not give Sandra the advice she should have, like what you said, because Dr. Z said as much to the camera but not to Sandra that we know of. Of course, that resulted in dramatic effect of Sandra continuing to pack garbage in boxes, speak rudely to people trying to help her, and move possessions that legally did not belong to her out on the street. That just doesn't sit right with me. It makes for a great show but really, it would have been kinder to Sandra to have her legally removed from the property and then presented with the proceeds from what the auction group was able to sell. Eric and Michael meant well and were clearly touched by her plight, but her illness was way beyond help.

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P.S.
I just found an article, they bought the mansion for $415,000. I thought it was way more than that, even with the condition of the house, lol.

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Oh, dang it. Just found out a new bit of info. The house being valued at $1 million for tax purposes, well, owners receive a historic-value tax break that cuts it's tax value in half.

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I found that article too.

I guess they were trying to auction it for a minimum $700,000 and no one would bite probably because of how it looked.

Michael and Eric are very brave to make this purchase.

The house even from the outside needs a major overhaul.

I'm looking forward to the finished product after the designers come in to renovate it.

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They were too nice, over and over again. We know anyone else would have stepped on her and shoveled her *beep* to the dump. I know they didn't want to feel guilty, but damn she just over ran them to the last drop.

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