I mean seriously...what the hell was she thinking?I doubt Hilary would have forced her to go with him.She could have told to the black lady to call the cops!
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Probably a combination of fear and guilt. Fear knowing he was dangerous and guilt since she had claimed to love him. Plus Charlotte was no Rhodes Scholar. Agree though, I wouldn't have gone.
share^I think you're right.Do you think that she enjoyed having sex with him,though?He was so godamn rough!She seemed to be in pain most of the time.
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I think she was just naively sold on the idea of a happy ending. Lots of women abandon their lives in pursuit of love--even when it doesn't make a lot of logical sense. It really isn't that uncommon.
shareDo you think that she enjoyed having sex with him,though?He was so godamn rough!She seemed to be in pain most of the time.In short: Yes. I watched a most interesting film two days ago called Black & White & Sex. Pain is part of the female orgasm. So her in pain would not be an issue. She asks him during that scene something like "do you always f/ck like it's your last time?" Fear and lust mixed in that methinks.
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You doubt Hilary would've forced her to go? Just the opposite. She knew she was in trouble the first time she saw him walk in, not in chains or behind bars. He was gonna do whatever he wanted to and with her, and she was gonna go wherever he wanted her to go. She was even gonna have to dress the way he wanted. He'd made that clear when she visited the prison.
She could've called the cops. But what else was she gonna do with her life? And even if the cops had saved her at that moment from Hilary, he would've kept comin' back. There's no getting rid of someone like him. He was half insane, extremely violent, narcissistic, filthy in every way. Nothing would have deterred him from winning. He was the type where no b___ch was gonna dictate to him what to do or where to go, or who would go with him.
You doubt Hilary would've forced her to go? Just the opposite. She knew she was in trouble the first time she saw him walk in, not in chains or behind bars. He was gonna do whatever he wanted to and with her, and she was gonna go wherever he wanted her to go. She was even gonna have to dress the way he wanted. He'd made that clear when she visited the prison.
like a snake compelled to flirt with the mongoose, so too Charlotte with Hilary. She'd probably been with the bad boys for as long as she could open her orifices (sorry that's crude but it is fitting for this film). Then she met Jack, sweet, innocent, yet proved over time he could be a force to be reckoned with if pushed. She went with Hilary through fear, plain and simple.
When she got out to the swamp and faced the reality that life is more than just wild, kinky sex and bowing to the will of a maniac, especially when she remembered the sweet, endearing boy who would do anything for her, she had a change of heart. She was willing to take a gamble to get out. IF the letter had gotten to Jack right away, things could have turned out differently.
I think it was a self confidence thing, she didn't feel good enough to be with someone good. But she also didn't know how bad he was. She should have tho, she kind of made her own bed.
shareSome people have such low self esteem that they are not comfortable unless they put themselves in a position to be a victim. Look at how Charlotte made excuses for having sex with ANY man that wanted her. Sadly I work with someone who acts just like this, she is always the victim, even when all the signs point to danger. She makes excuses until she gets herself into a bind and then.... she's this victim again just trudging along trying to make the best of her sad little life.
I find this behavior sickening and sad. You can't warn or help someone who has made up their mind to put themselves smack dab in the middle of harms way.
I don't think that any of you understand her character. She loved him and understood him and needed him. Was it a bad idea to love him and to need him? Absolutely, but that is entirely beside the point. You don't get to choose who you fall in love with. Even if it wasn't going to be with him, it would have been with someone much like him because she wanted a strong man to take charge and to have rough sex. In that one way, she's not even all that unusual. He was not forcing himself on her. If you doubt that, remember how hot it made her to perform for him during the prison visit. If she had felt embarrassed, then you would have a point, but she clearly enjoyed giving herself to him completely. I even think that Hillary was testing her, and that she knew that, and she was determined to pass that test. She was tired of all the boys trying to make love to her. Pretty boys like Jack. They're simply not what she wanted. She wanted to be used, and that's a shame, but that's the truth within the story. Or rather my understanding from Kidman's portrayal of Charlotte. It's definitely difficult accept that, but I like it when a movie challenges me, and this one gave me a lot in return. I don't think that any of us are going to forget this movie very soon.
sharePretty boys like Jack. They're simply not what she wanted. She wanted to be used, and that's a shame, but that's the truth within the story. Or rather my understanding from Kidman's portrayal of Charlotte.
Of course he would have forced her to go, didn't you see what his character was like?!
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Charlotte had convinced herself that she had no choice. Though she feared her ultimate fate, she was basically resolved to whatever life Hilary had planned for her. That resolve, her submission, satisfied her psycho-sexual pathology. For whatever reasons in her past/upbringing, she had constructed quite an interestingly skewed outlook on how love and life "work". She somehow, consciously or subconsciously, appointed herself as a martyr of sorts to the injustices of the world and perhaps to love itself. I believe her penchant for sexual danger affirms the latter. She and the character of Ward were kindred spirits in those regards. I'm not sure at what point in her association with him that she came to realize this but it was fairly obvious in the scene in the Miami bar that she had come to peg him as such and had become even more protective of Jack in his confusion concerning the situation and his brother's behavior. Charlotte and Ward both held ultimately self-destructive outlooks on love, justice, and their purpose in the world. They both saw themselves as avengers and were loyal to that end. So, "what the hell was she thinking?", perhaps only this: well, I've made my bed, now I must lie in it.
shareHe satisfied her dark side. And she had quite a dark side.
"Love isn't what you say or how you feel, it's what you DO". (The Last Kiss)
On FB, I became friends with a women who hung out with the rough crowd in high school. Her friend who was beautiful married someone who was as bad a Hillary. Now, I come from an upper middle class suburb, so this was not the only type she was exposed to.
My friend explained that some women, including her, are attracted to bad boys.