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A southern masterpiece, child of Faulkner, Williams, McCullers


I decided, despite the bad reviews, to watch The Paperboy, partly because Matthew McConaughey, who I first thought of as just another "beefcake" actor -- has recently so much surprised me with his consistently impressive performances. Once I had seen The Paperboy the mostly bad reviews (from both professional and non-professional critics) left me baffled. I don't believe this is just a matter of taste, so after thinking on it for a bit, this is my response to those critics: The Paperboy does not follow the type of dramatic narrative audiences expect, or perhaps I should say "expect in 2012/13". It harkens back to an earlier time, and owes it's narrative flow to an earlier form of story telling as well as a particular type of story telling that few in the age of Stephen King or John Irving are familiar with (although some of Irving's writing does have some echoes of it). To appreciate the Paperboy one has to, I think, have some knowledge and/or memory of 20th century southern literature: "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" (Tennessee Williams) or the writings of Carson McCullers, Harper Lee and William Faulkner; The Paperboy situates itself among these works and in it's telling does not just "echo" these great authors, it revives them -- they live and breath in this film, owning almost as much of this film as any of the works they authored in life. An audience unprepared for this style of meandering narrative with its extreme drama and extreme characters who -- despite their extremes -- seem embedded in a lethargic sleepwalking sense of time, would not only misunderstand but likely miss the tenuous but tensely wrought tropes negotiated in this film. All the above writers touched upon powerful themes of race, identity, power and gender, and most often their works are also long and convoluted, as long and convoluted as the history from which they sprang, and the world they had once so tenaciously sought to justify. While they lived in a racist society, they were of course none of them racists, for they were southerners, were they not? As gets said at one time or other and more than once in Gone With the Wind, the white southerners "understand" the negro, and so do not need to be "racists" and do not even need the word, for "racism" is a word used by those who do not "understand" negros. In their understanding of negros is all the racism time has ever created. The tenuous thread holding such "understanding" from being what it really was is difficult to maintain, as difficult as holding together the threads of the tenuous system that had failed to not only understand itself but to actually "BE". Such writing is the work of a people who were white in a land where being white was all that was left to them and where being white was beginning to mean nothing but a loose collection of out-dated mannerisms. I know that doesn't completely explain why white southern literature is so winding and almost deceptively vague -- it so also because, I think, there is such a polarity between what is real and what is "appearance". While the real vs appearance is a famous trope of Shakespeare, it is one that Shakespeare and other writers of his time very consciously explored. I don't think white southern writing really ever knowingly accepts that as it theme, it is constantly hiding it's inability to realize that the appearance is never real, and that the real is, in their world and in that time, almost entirely made up of appearance. While alcoholism, petty jealousy, perversions even unto incest, and of course the taboo of homosexuality exist in their unstated corporeality of both body and mind, the heated summers of it's place is never defined and never acknowledged, it lies beneath the veneer of southern civility as hard and resolute as the bones of the dead lover in Faulkner's "A Rose for Emily". The desire to uphold the facade of what is deemed white and right and "pure" is what drives these gnarled aberrations into full blown debaucheries. The white characters in The Paperboy and in white southern writing are the survivors of a losing "race", a race that failed, a race that was never more than slave drivers frightened by not only the sheer numbers, but by the higher nobility, of their slave class. Being white in the post-civil war south was to have failed, not only at war but at culture -- once the slaves were gone so were the ideals (imagined or real) and the living inheritors of this failure had nothing to cling to save their skin and a dream of honour and large cool soporific houses and mint julip AND-- even to themselves -- unbelievably happy slaves whom one should (but most never could or did have) waiting on their every need simply for the colour of their skin. Losers to the hyperbolically renamed "War of Northern Aggression", losers to their former slaves, they are keepers of an imaginary past that demanded they retain a purity of propriety to each other that kept hidden the reality of what the South really was, that cankered the heart and diverted the mind away from the changes wrought by a time that moved over what they thought they had been with the surety of Sherman's march. McCuller's "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" (my accidental discovery of her writing at age 11 changed how I viewed literature), Faulkners "The Sound and the Fury", Harpers very famous "To Kill a Mockingbird", in none of these is the path from beginning to end straight, in none of these are but a few characters, and then only briefly, ever completely heroic. The "good" characters practice their "understanding of negros" and do a few good things for them, or say a few good things, but they make no real change for either the white or the black race, and so remain what we can and should call "racists" They fight as much against themselves as they do against the change around them, and it is interesting in "The Paperboy" that while we are shown a bit of the past, the very early days of the civil rights movement, we find it disturbing not because it is a past that we are none of us comfortable with, we are unsettled because it also shows a present that we find difficult to own. Are the lives lived by those characters in the always hot sweat of a remarkably hot summer as dead as those who wrote them? Read a bit Faulkner, McCullers, and Harper -- add a few bits of Tennessee Williams -- and ask yourself if it is in the lies and the posturing of those lies, lies as big as Gone with the Wind, that these stories are most true? Then re-watch The Paperboy and wonder in what way have things changed....

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The film has already received some comments from reviews remarking that it felt like Tenesse Williams on absinthe. Very insightful response, I was also baffled after I saw it, the reaction from professional critics were so extreme, I mean the film is thoroughly engrossing and engaging and best of all it actually had a pulse but critics still went after so savagely, I am to date at a loss of understanding why the uproar.

"You were supposed to love me, werent you?", Nicole Kidman-Stoker 2013

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Oh, thank you for reading it, it was a bit of a long post and my very first as well, and so kind of you to reply to it! I agree, I don't understand the uproar. Some reviewers seemed offended by parts of the movie, but there are so many movies that are nothing more than endless murder and rape ... and a lot of the uproar was directed, strangely, at the director. Kind of like the reaction to Django Unchained. I think America has a real problem with movies that direct attention to issues of class and race. The lives of the poor are always made to seem seedier than they are, and blacks are usually expected to somehow in some way always save the whites, so Yardley's saving of himself --in his pretending to be British as well as his publishing of the story and dismissal of McConaughy's beating --comes across as high treason. Perhaps Nichole Kidman would have gotten a more sympathetic reaction had she been fat and ugly and missing her front teeth, and considering the time and place of McConaughey's homosexuality, it would be amazing if he were able to have anything approaching a "normal" relationship. That he allows himself to be sexually degraded by black men inspires more of an affront than had he been involved with much more graphic but good ol' whites-only S and M. It makes me think of the "geek" scene in Pulp Fiction...which is more literal and much longer than anything the audience is shown in The Paperboy. It's horrible, but set up as bit of a farce, and maybe it comes across as comedic to white audiences because it's not Big Bad White Bruce Willis being sodomized, it's a black man being sodomized by whites, and even though they are enemies Willis is kind enough to swoop in and save the man. If it were Willis, and those men were black, would even the saving of him by Wallace seem so righteous? I think not. Wallace's character would just be doing what was expected of him. The rape of Bruce Willis would likely have been so offensive that the other offences of that movie would have paled in comparison. Even with the rope around the roles played by blacks in The Paperboy, there are no "uncle Toms" here to make the audience feel more comfortable, even the maid does not pretend to be any part of the family she works for; she is friends with the boy she cleans up after, but she does not let him throw his ideal of a black "mammy" at her. She's just trying to make a living and keep both of her feet out of their lives.

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Late ass reply but I had to respond and commend you on your excellent review of the movie. Very accurate and thought provoking summation.

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oh my god! There's no way I'm wading through that dense text!

Please find the enter key and break it up a bit into paragraphs~!

Thanks, I'll read it if you can edit it a bit, for all I know you've got some brilliant observations buried somewhere in there.

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You may be right, a good insight; but this is the 21st century, and if the producers and director made this movie along the lines you indicate, then they were idiots. This movie needed a good edit to give it some clear focus and remove a lot of side issues, or it needed to be three hours long so all the stories could be laid out more fully.

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I happened to have my email open so got notification of your reply to my review. It was so long since I had looked at it I had to read it through again, and I realized my review is rather as meandering as the film! But in response to your comment, I don't think that the film needed to more fully explore the side stories. and the interaction of the characters are focused on the murder and the murderer, as is the plot of the film. The characters, however, are bound up in the life of an extended family that lives in a particular type of town in which family history goes back a long way. Everyone knows what type of family everyone comes from, and the deep secrets are never as deeply kept as they might wish; everybody knows about everyone else but everybody pretends not to. Their individual eccentricities may seem irrelevant, but I think what they do is provide motivation for their actions without having to be so exhaustively delved into that the film would need to be three hours long. I think we get just enough information to understand these characters and why they relate to each other in the way that they do without taking too much attention away from the main storyline. The characters are so intruiging, however, that the filmmakers succeed in teasing the viewer into wanting more. As I'm not one of the filmmakers, I really can't say if that's an accident they intended to happen, or an accidental by-product of having some very interesting and quirky characters!

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Well, you can't have it both ways. If you don't want to make the movie longer to fill in all the side stories, then most of the side stories should have been cut - clear out the brush so the audience can understand what's happening.

Because the producers and director failed to choose between these alternatives, The Paperboy was a commercial and critical failure, though it possessed all the attributes for potential success - name stars, lurid situations, etc. But serious distributors turned it down, and the few people who saw it were confused.

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As a Southerner, I found this movie to be painful. As in it HURT to watch these people attempt to be Southern. This is the worst portrayal of Southerners and Southern life that I've ever seen. And I've seen MANY such examples. I'm willing to cut filmmakers and actors some slack in this department. I know you can't always use actors from the South. But this movie was the worst so far.

Even Matthew McConaughey of all people put on a faux Southern accent for this movie and he's FROM the South! That's how horrible this movie is in portraying southerners.

If you think this movie represents the REAL South in any way, shape or fashion, you have a false understanding of the region I was born and raised in.

I had to turn it off halfway through. That's how bad it was. I almost never do that with a movie. But I could see how it was gonna be. I'm actually amazed it got above a 5 on the imdb users rating. And not just the accents and acting. The camera wasn't where it needed to be half the time. UGH. Hated it. Sorry OP. There are much better films about the South to be found. Keep looking...

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As a Southerner, I loved this film. The OP makes amazing points which maybe you didn't understand because you didn't finish the movie.

Firstly, The movie isn't "about the south". The setting is a small town in Florida (which many of us don't even consider the south). The few parts of "southern life" I saw did not strike me as inaccurate. Baxley, GA comes to mind.

Secondly, there is no way that you can know what "Southerners and Southern life" was like in 1969 in every town, in every state, in the South.

Thirdly, that's just how McConaughy talks and I know many Texans that sound similar and some that have no discernible accent. Texas is a big state. The south is a big region. Since you didn't know, different regions have different dialects. Visit Harkers Island, NC and tell them that their accents are wrong.

It's ok to hate the movie, many people did, but you turned it off halfway through.. Ignorant comments like this make us all look bad.

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Very interesting posts----Interesting post---here's an article that I thought might pertain to the film because of its themes of homosexuality and race:



http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/13/straight-white-men-sex-with-men-no-social-consequences

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All of your long-winded musings should be dismissed, because you're not American and therefore your opinions have no validity. That's like me psychoanalyzing Europeans for any number of historical events.

By the way, paragraphs do serve a purpose.


Yea, Tho I Walk Thru The Valley Of The Shadow Of Political Correctness...🇺🇸

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Spouting this nonsense again. So by your self proclaimed rules of the IMDB forums, people are only allowed to voice opinions on movies and issues relating to their country of birth?

So you have accidently come across yet another movie with homoerotic scenes. You LOVE them, don't you! Hahaha.

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heidistandell acts like an authority on the American South, and what I said was "his opinion should be dismissed," not that he can't run his mouth. I don't expect a trawling homosexual, like yourself, to understand anything sensible, so be on your way.

It would be like me stating how it feels to be gay, when I have no knowledge. I'm sure you'd want to set the record straight on that subject.


Yea, Tho I Walk Thru The Valley Of The Shadow Of Political Correctness...🇺🇸

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I think you know quite clearly how it feels to be gay. You're the biggest closet on the boards. The most saddening part is that you can't admit it to yourself. To everyone else- it's obvious.

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heidistandell said... and I've edited into readable form...

I decided, despite the bad reviews, to watch The Paperboy, partly because Matthew McConaughey, who I first thought of as just another "beefcake" actor -- has recently so much surprised me with his consistently impressive performances. Once I had seen The Paperboy the mostly bad reviews (from both professional and non-professional critics) left me baffled.

I don't believe this is just a matter of taste, so after thinking on it for a bit, this is my response to those critics: The Paperboy does not follow the type of dramatic narrative audiences expect, or perhaps I should say "expect in 2012/13".

It harkens back to an earlier time, and owes it's narrative flow to an earlier form of story telling as well as a particular type of story telling that few in the age of Stephen King or John Irving are familiar with (although some of Irving's writing does have some echoes of it).

To appreciate the Paperboy one has to, I think, have some knowledge and/or memory of 20th century southern literature: "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" (Tennessee Williams) or the writings of Carson McCullers, Harper Lee and William Faulkner; The Paperboy situates itself among these works and in it's telling does not just "echo" these great authors, it revives them -- they live and breath in this film, owning almost as much of this film as any of the works they authored in life.

An audience unprepared for this style of meandering narrative with its extreme drama and extreme characters who -- despite their extremes -- seem embedded in a lethargic sleepwalking sense of time, would not only misunderstand but likely miss the tenuous but tensely wrought tropes negotiated in this film.

All the above writers touched upon powerful themes of race, identity, power and gender, and most often their works are also long and convoluted, as long and convoluted as the history from which they sprang, and the world they had once so tenaciously sought to justify. While they lived in a racist society, they were of course none of them racists, for they were southerners, were they not?

As gets said at one time or other and more than once in Gone With the Wind, the white southerners "understand" the negro, and so do not need to be "racists" and do not even need the word, for "racism" is a word used by those who do not "understand" negros. In their understanding of negros is all the racism time has ever created.

The tenuous thread holding such "understanding" from being what it really was is difficult to maintain, as difficult as holding together the threads of the tenuous system that had failed to not only understand itself but to actually "BE". Such writing is the work of a people who were white in a land where being white was all that was left to them and where being white was beginning to mean nothing but a loose collection of out-dated mannerisms.

I know that doesn't completely explain why white southern literature is so winding and almost deceptively vague -- it so also because, I think, there is such a polarity between what is real and what is "appearance". While the real vs appearance is a famous trope of Shakespeare, it is one that Shakespeare and other writers of his time very consciously explored.

I don't think white southern writing really ever knowingly accepts that as it theme, it is constantly hiding it's inability to realize that the appearance is never real, and that the real is, in their world and in that time, almost entirely made up of appearance.

While alcoholism, petty jealousy, perversions even unto incest, and of course the taboo of homosexuality exist in their unstated corporeality of both body and mind, the heated summers of it's place is never defined and never acknowledged, it lies beneath the veneer of southern civility as hard and resolute as the bones of the dead lover in Faulkner's "A Rose for Emily".

The desire to uphold the facade of what is deemed white and right and "pure" is what drives these gnarled aberrations into full blown debaucheries. The white characters in The Paperboy and in white southern writing are the survivors of a losing "race", a race that failed, a race that was never more than slave drivers frightened by not only the sheer numbers, but by the higher nobility, of their slave class.

Being white in the post-civil war south was to have failed, not only at war but at culture -- once the slaves were gone so were the ideals (imagined or real) and the living inheritors of this failure had nothing to cling to save their skin and a dream of honour and large cool soporific houses and mint julip AND-- even to themselves -- unbelievably happy slaves whom one should (but most never could or did have) waiting on their every need simply for the colour of their skin.

Losers to the hyperbolically renamed "War of Northern Aggression", losers to their former slaves, they are keepers of an imaginary past that demanded they retain a purity of propriety to each other that kept hidden the reality of what the South really was, that cankered the heart and diverted the mind away from the changes wrought by a time that moved over what they thought they had been with the surety of Sherman's march.

McCuller's "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" (my accidental discovery of her writing at age 11 changed how I viewed literature), Faulkners "The Sound and the Fury", Harpers very famous "To Kill a Mockingbird", in none of these is the path from beginning to end straight, in none of these are but a few characters, and then only briefly, ever completely heroic.

The "good" characters practice their "understanding of negros" and do a few good things for them, or say a few good things, but they make no real change for either the white or the black race, and so remain what we can and should call "racists"

They fight as much against themselves as they do against the change around them, and it is interesting in "The Paperboy" that while we are shown a bit of the past, the very early days of the civil rights movement, we find it disturbing not because it is a past that we are none of us comfortable with, we are unsettled because it also shows a present that we find difficult to own.

Are the lives lived by those characters in the always hot sweat of a remarkably hot summer as dead as those who wrote them? Read a bit Faulkner, McCullers, and Harper -- add a few bits of Tennessee Williams -- and ask yourself if it is in the lies and the posturing of those lies, lies as big as Gone with the Wind, that these stories are most true? Then re-watch The Paperboy and wonder in what way have things changed....


~~~~ SCANDAL - "Thinking is for losers!" Best satire ever televised.

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