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Eyal's coming back! Eyal's coming back! Eyal's.......


.....okay.

Just had to get that off my chest. Thanks for letting me share.

(Looks like more than a cameo this time, as well. It's just like old times )

P.S. Hope it wasn't a spoiler, because Eyal and Neshema were in the previews together at the end of this week's ep.)

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I hope eyal turns out to be a bad guy.

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Could be!

The writers said it's going to get complicated--big conspiracy, big twists and all sorts coming up.

For the back 6, we are in Istanbul and Argentina.

The writers wouldn't bring Eyal back for no reason. They know he's popular (they've said it). But surely he is serving a purpose in the story (other than raising the ratings which go up a bit every episode in which he's had a cameo).

But surely, it's not that cynical a ploy just to raise ratings a bit. And it's more about the story and giving Annie the needed male to work with her in the field with Ryan out of commission.





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Except, there's no real evidence that having Eyal in an episode boosts the rating. His episode this season is the second lowest rated episode in the show's history. Hopefully they build a proper story arc and Eyal is used organically and not just as a necessity sidekick for Annie because Ryan is out of action.

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They know he's popular (they've said it).


Of course he's popular!! He's unbelievably drool-worthy.
Kat
seriously glad to have the eye candy back

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There is absolutely no chemistry between Annie and McQuaid. Season 5 is just crap,especially writing in that Eyal is somehow back with his wife? Seriously? After everything that Annie and Eyal have been through together, and for them not to end up together is a joke. Is McQuaid supposed to take Eyal's place now, if so he's a poor substitute.

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I couldn't agree more

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I hope eyal turns out to be a bad guy.


That would be AWESOME!!!!! Which means the writers won't do it.

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I doubt the writers would do that. Eyal has one of the biggest fanbases on this show, and to ruin his character, or kill him off, would piss off a lot of people. They've already put those fans through the mill, never utilizing Eyal properly, and constantly driving him and Annie apart so they'll never be together. They don't have to make Eyal a bad guy or kill him off - he doesn't appear on the show long enough for that to be a big impact. Plus, at this stage, it wouldn't make sense because he's shown where his loyalties lie - and he's absolutely loyal to Annie.

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I always loved Auggie and Annie together, but they really do seem to be better suited as friends. Meaning, they are sweet, but no heat.

I think McQuaid re-kindled my interest in the show. I was getting a bit bored, really. And, I think I can point out the beginning of my boredom when Eyal was gone. I loved his character.

So, I'm happy about the news that he's returning. As much as I like McQuaid, and think she'll end up with him, I think her split-apart, is Eyal. But, Eyal always seems to carry a cloud of fated tragedy around with him, so he's likely to end badly. Perhaps so badly, Annie returns to McQuaid for a more protected life.

LOL, good thing I'm not writing this, huh?

Debate my points. Challenge my perspective. Prove me wrong. Only, do it with a smile.

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I'm tired of his cameos, they need to keep him or get rid of him for good. I know I am probably the only one but when he says his pet name for her,it is just too much! Ugh, it was just getting interesting and now we are back to the same old thing.

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Yes, you are the only one. Is it lonely on your little Island?

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Not that bad actually! I like the silence.

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you are not alone in your thinking.

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I thought I was the only one who found their relationship so mawkish! It's like, okay I get it he likes her! They lay it on just a little to thick.

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I'm tired of his cameos, they need to keep him or get rid of him for good. I know I am probably the only one but when he says his pet name for her,it is just too much! Ugh, it was just getting interesting and now we are back to the same old thing.


I actually cringe and want to smack him when he calls her whatever the *beep* he calls her. Everything about his character annoys me and that's just another thing on the list.

I wish they'd kill him off. Or make him a villain...and then kill him off.

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Eyal is the only reason I'm still watching this show.

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I was so upset when they wrote out Eyal and hooked her up with Auggie. It just felt like a letdown; it cheapened the whole auggie/annie tension that had been building.

I like the trust/mistrust between her and Eyal and how they ultimately worked well together. They both had first loyalty to their respective country and second loyalty to each other -- just as it should be amongst spies.

I haven't been excited about a relationship of hers in a long time. Or the show for that matter. I basically stopped watching last season because it got so ridiculous. But the introduction of better stories and the McQuaid arc sucked me back in.

Bring back Eyal? YAY! I'm sooo in.

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I was so upset when they wrote out Eyal and hooked her up with Auggie. It just felt like a letdown; it cheapened the whole auggie/annie tension that had been building.

I like the trust/mistrust between her and Eyal and how they ultimately worked well together. They both had first loyalty to their respective country and second loyalty to each other -- just as it should be amongst spies.

I haven't been excited about a relationship of hers in a long time. Or the show for that matter. I basically stopped watching last season because it got so ridiculous. But the introduction of better stories and the McQuaid arc sucked me back in.


I give a strong second to everything you posted. I stopped watching during the Annie/Auggie thing. Are writers totally incapable of thinking beyond the coworkers sleeping together? Seriously, every show has the female lead sleeping with the male lead after a while. It very rare for a female at that level to sleep with a co-worker because they don't want to screw up their career over some fly by night dude.
I really liked the McQuaid thing and I am absolutely thrilled that Eyal is back. He's like a fine wine, he gets better with age.
Kat

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Yes.

Almost feels as if they are pimping him out for ratings.



Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

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Well of course they are; just like every other show does when they have a fan favorite returning or a big name appearing.



Fornell: Well tie me up and call me Loretta.

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I am excited to see him back in, what appears to be, more than cameo status. Yay!!

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Sure hope he has a good agent that upped his asking price. All that popularity shouldn’t go for cheap.

Before, he probably was seeking them out; no doubt, now they are seeking him out.

Funny…you can never tell who is going to catch fans’ fancy on a show. It’s not always the star, or one of the leads, or even a regular cast member. Sometimes it just someone out of the blue; someone that is only...originally...scheduled to do maybe one or two episodes, or so.




Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

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Almost feels as if they are pimping him out for ratings.

And that's a problem because....

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Eyal is my favourite character and I really wish he was in more episodes. He loves Annie in a completely different way than any other man in her life. I love how he took Annie under his wing and has protected her ever since. He teaches her things every time they work together. He is the ultimate agent.

They could however bring Eyal in with his own series :D

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Eyal is, without a doubt, a master spy. After reading a James Bond novel, I couldn't agree more when Piper said that Eyal is the James Bond of this show. I too agree with you that they don't utilize him enough on this show. They should either make him a regular already or give him his own show. He has the fandom, popularity, appeal, and intrigue to be the star of his own spy show.

I also agree with you that Eyal truly loves Annie in a way no one else does, in a real, deep, passionate way, and he's done more for her than anyone else ever has. Annie's just too naive to see it, and instead, sleeps around with guys and apparently "falls in love with them," yet has no chemistry with. If this show gets a sixth season, Annie and Eyal really should end up together as end game; and quite frankly, the writers owe the Eyal fans that after writing that ridiculous and pathetic storyline of Eyal being back with his ex-wife, which was completely not believable.

Annie and Eyal have the deepest, most meaningful relationship on this show, and all of the elements of a real relationship - Annie's other relationships are forced with no depth or chemistry. She's always had the best chemistry with Eyal and she's shown how much she trusts him and turns to him when things in her life really get bad. He can look after her and take care of her (especially with her heart condition and his medical training), and that smouldering chemistry and strong relationship definitely proves why Annie and Eyal are the best couple on this show.

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I absolutely agree Annie and Eyal were the best episodes and were more like James Bond. I totally could see them working together. Eyal is a agent that she can trust. I know she trusts Auggie but with Eyal it was different.

But unfortunately they have cancelled the show. So no more Eyal. :(

They could have saved this show by Annie and Eyal starting their own agency. Taking along Auggie of course. The other characters were boring the last couple of seasons and the show definitely needed a new start. So sad they didnt pay attention to what the fans wanted.

I could envision that one day they would walk away from all of that and start a new life together. I always thought the last scene of the final episode would be them walking hand in hand along the beach into the sun.

Farewell Annie and Eyal...

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Totally agree! That they both quit - Eyal because he is sick of being pushed around by Mossad, and Annie because of her heart. It would be so awesome for them to end up on his boat, watching the sunset.

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I get the McAnnie shippers, I get the Walkerson shippers (cause duh!), I even get the Ben shippers. They actually HAD a reason to ship these couples.

I love Eyal, but there was absolutely nothing there. Annie flirted with Rossabi, it was the same dynamic, only they were on the same size (mostly), so they could talk more openly. I get that you guys really like Eyal/Oded, but he was nothing more than a guest star. He was supposed to leave us wanting more, him and Annie were always supposed to be in this suspended state of flirting and that's it.

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Walkerson? Seriously? After he cheated on her, and has had how many others since? No chemistry between them left at all, sorry to say!

When this show first started, for about the first few episodes I was all for the Walkerson thing! But not anymore.

There is no flirtation between her and Rossabi,they just get in each other's way and antagonise each other. The dynamic between them is totally different.

As for McWalker - there's just a void! No chemistry whatsoever. Ok, so those that support this think that they are two halves of the same whole, but I beg to differ. They are very similar people in one sense. He lets her do whatever she wants and that's not always a good thing, sometimes it's important to have people who are willing to lay it all on the line and tell us the truth and force us to face reality,for our own good, even if it's not what we want to hear or do!

The thing is, if she ends up with either McQuaid, or Auggie, it just makes her seem that much more vacuous!

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You completely missed my point. It doesn't matter if you like Walkerson or McQuaid, if you like Auggie, Rossabi or Ryan as independent characters. The point was that as much as I and pretty much everyone else LOVED Eyal, there was absolutely nothing between them, except for mild flirting. Everything, all their "Eyal let her go because he loved her", happened only in the mind of the shippers.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in shipping what's not there and making up stories. Everyone else does. But to say "Eyal was the only one" is a sign of a big delusion.

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I could not agree more with everything you said.

The Annie/Auggie pairing was so forced and had absolutely no romantic chemistry on which to build any kind of relationship. When the show first aired, Auggie may have been the one she ended up with, but as the show went on, he proved to be nothing more than a good friend and colleague to her. They had a great friendship, but pushing them past that ruined the sparkle they had together - the last two seasons really ruined what made their friendship special. As you said, Auggie also cheated on her, and was sleeping with two women at the same time in S5, which shows how little he actually loved Annie and respects her. Annie and Auggie were always meant to be friends, and pushing them past that not only ruined their friendship, but it also made the show less appealing.

Her relationship with McQuaid was just as forced as her relationship with Auggie. There was never any romantic chemistry between these two. They completely fast-tracked her relationship with McQuaid, trying to make it seem legit when it just wasn't. They had no foundation for a long-lasting relationship, because sleeping together once doesn't mean you love that person, nor does running around in the field together. Their "heat of the moment" decisions were both ridiculous and immature; and those kinds of decisions always lead to mistakes and regret down the road. The writers tried to make something between Annie and McQuaid, and they forced it to happen BECAUSE that spark and magic didn't exist between them. But that was yet another relationship of Annie's that "just had nothing there." Their attempts at flirting were so forced and were not natural - there was never any spark between these two. They were like two walls facing each other all the time and McQuaid had the emotional range of a rock - he was so stone-faced most of the time, he never looked like he was in love with Annie. It felt so fake when they both said they loved one another - you could just see there was no love or passion between them. And Annie too never looked like she was ever rally in love with him. I think that she really just wanted to have someone so she wasn't alone, so she spent her time trying to convince herself she was happy with McQuaid, when it was so clear she wasn't.

There was absolutely no intimacy between them, and I think the notion of marriage surprised and flattered her, because she looked the same way when Simon offered for her to run away with him, but she turned him down. Her and McQuaid just aren't marriage material - there's nothing but another forced relationship where she clearly wasn't really happy with him. And as others have indicated here and in other threads, THAT is not a figment of a shipper's imagination. Piper looked quite unhappy and bored this season and it showed - a lot of people noticed it and commented on it too. And in the behind-the-scenes pictures posted on social media, the only time she ever looked truly, genuinely happy during S5 was when she was on-set with Oded. There was just no magic between her and Nic and it showed on camera between their characters, and behind the scenes.

As for Eyal, they have something very special together, far more special than what she had with Auggie because he's a "rival spy." Eyal has always been there for her. Whenever she needs serious help (like faking her death and needing medical help to diagnose her condition), she goes to HIM - she could have gone to anyone in the world, INCLUDING Auggie, but she chose to go to Eyal for help. He's saved her life numerous times, he's helped her get her life back on track when she needed it, he's helped her in the field every single time they've run a mission together, and there is absolutely no question there is a lot of sizzling chemistry between them.

The reason some people think there's "nothing" between Annie and Eyal is because the writers never gave them a chance to develop and explore that deep bond and natural chemistry they have into something more. Just because they work for different spy agencies doesn't mean that there's nothing between them. Their friendship and deep bond is very unique - they have absolute trust in one another, despite working for rival agencies and the popular notion that foreign spies can't be anything buy rivals. Eyal risked his career and his life for her and allowed himself to be captured to protect her - who else has done that for her? Who else has done ANYTHING for her like Eyal has? McQuaid's rich and he buys her a gun and that's supposed to woo her into loving the guy? I think Eyal giving Annie her life back, after she was in prison and when she wanted to go dark to go after Henry Wilcox, is far more important and meaningful than anything anyone else has done for her. And there's no question Eyal's loyalty, especially the last three seasons, has been completely towards Annie. Sure, he may still work for Mossad, but he always puts her first. If there were "two halves of the same whole" on this show, it was Annie and Eyal - and he certainly didn't call her "neshama" for no reason - he knew she was the right one for him, and there were times she indicated he was the right one for her too - she's just too starry-eyed when it came to McQuaid and Auggie that she didn't realize real, passionate love was right in front of her the whole time - with Eyal.

Eyal too has let Annie do whatever she wants, but unlike anyone else, he's not afraid to put her in her place when she needs it. He's been gentle with her when she needs support, but when she needs some sense knocked into her, he's the only one who can really get through to her and he doesn't hesitate to let her know it. The show runners have even commented on this in interviews, saying that he's a rock for her - he's a solid form of support, and they've also admitted to the deep bond and chemistry Annie and Eyal have together. He's been the one person who, as you say, was "willing to lay it all on the line and tell her the truth and force her to face reality, for her own good, even if it's not what she wanted to hear or do." Annie has never liked being told what to do, and she beats down (or kills) anyone who gets in her way, which, as you say, isn't a good thing either. Eyal has always been able to give Annie a reality check, although she never seems to want to take his advice until the worst possible time (like ignoring the fact that her heart condition would get out and she WOULD pay the price for it, especially with the agency. Yes, she took that risk anyway, but she gets pissed at everyone for thinking her heart condition is serious, because it is, and she thinks she can actually be an effective spy when she's running around the field, giving herself nitrate injections?)

Anyways, When Annie and Eyal were in Istanbul together, Eyal put her happiness before his own. There's no question he loves her deeply, and yes, despite what others have said here and in other threads, letting someone go so they can be happy, especially at the expense of their own happiness, IS a sign of just how much that person cares about the other. Eyal's never gotten the chance to tell Annie he loves her because the writers don't give him that chance - she's always tangled up with a guy that isn't right for her, but Eyal respects her enough and cares about her enough to let her make her own decisions instead of manipulating her into being with him - jumping into bed with her when she's not ready for another relationship, or wooing her with money or a gun. So, there is PLENTY between Annie and Eyal, and he showed it again in Istanbul, just through his body language - you could see in his eyes that it was painful and heartbreaking to him to have to let her go again. And the way he spoke so forced when he said he was back with his ex showed that he was quite clearly lying to her, and it was clear he was disappointed he never got to tell her he loves her; but as he said earlier, it IS one's actions that speak for how they feel about someone, not what they say. So, to let Annie go shows that he loves her enough to sacrifice his happiness with her so she can at least try and see if she's happy with someone else, the latter of which wasn't convincing at all - again, I think Annie was trying to convince herself she was happy and in love with McQuaid, but she realized she wasn't. So for those who say Eyal letting Annie go doesn't show he loves her, it absolutely does. No one else on this show has ever done that - honestly, who else has manned up enough to tell Annie to go and try to be happy with someone else, especially when it's clear they love her as deeply as they do?

So there are plenty of reasons why so many fans shipped Eyal with Annie. They absolutely had the best chemistry on this show - it was obvious from S1 and built as the show went on - and they developed a deep bond over the five years they knew each other - it wasn't some ridiculous fast-tracked thing to get people to like a character in one season. Eyal has a lot of appeal, and throughout the course of this show, he DID prove that he was the right match for Annie. The disappointing part was the writers and show runners never gave him and Annie a chance together, and Annie continued to be in denial of her feelings for Eyal - and she DOES have feelings for him and she too has risked her career and her life for him. There's also been nothing fake or forced between her and Eyal - it's evolved naturally over five years and developed in a believable way; and if Annie had stopped being selfish and did more than say that she owes Eyal for everything he's done for her, she'd realize just how much he's done for her, and it's been motivated by his feelings for her.

So I DO agree with what you said - Annie is really clueless when it comes to her relationships and what she thinks is love, but really isn't. She has a lot of growing up to do yet; and if she wants real, true happiness, she needs to get her head out of the clouds and stop being so starry-eyed at the next man to cross her path.

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City_of_Blinding_Lights, love your post. Especially this:

And the way he spoke so forced when he said he was back with his ex showed that he was quite clearly lying to her, and it was clear he was disappointed he never got to tell her he loves her; but as he said earlier, it IS one's actions that speak for how they feel about someone, not what they say.


I re-watched that scene a couple of times, and I was TOTALLY convinced that he was lying. Maybe he was hoping to see a bit more disappointment in Annie's eyes, instead of her acting so happy for him? Who knows. The writers certainly didn't choose to elaborate, but I think at that point Oded made the character his own, so his acting can be taken at face value in that scene.

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