So OwlMan failed , but if he failed in that reality for what the movie gives us there is another reality where he didn't fail and destroyed Earth Prime , so everybody would have died no mather what , don't you think i'm right ?
In another way I think OwlMan already knows that , that he would in another reality defeat Batman and destroy Earth Prime and that's why he says : "It doesn't matter. " , with a smile in his face.
Great point!
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Owlman and Batman transported to Earth Prime to a point before any life existed to make any choices so no alternate dimentions had yet been created.
When Owlman was trapped to the device Batman sent him to another planet, the ice planet where no life ever evolved. Only then did Owlman look at the console and make the "It doesn't matter" remark. He was already off Earth Prime at this time so the hole is closed, as Owlman didn't create another dimention on Earth Prime when he chose to not disarm since we wasn't there. While he did create a new dimention by choosing not to disarm, but on the ice planet.
it's about actions...in his reality the bomb blows up on that ice planet...most probably causing another reality where the bomb doesn't blow up.
and i think he said "it doesn't matter" because he would rather die from the explosion rather of hunger and cold.
anyway it's just a cartoon...it's not meant to be that logic.
sry 4 my english.
"In another way I think OwlMan already knows that , that he would in another reality defeat Batman and destroy Earth Prime and that's why he says : "It doesn't matter. " , with a smile in his face."
But Owlman doesn't have to be right. The REAL hole is the fact that he is wrong! Earth Prime by definition is invariable, it cannot change. And that's all there is to it. There is nothing you, I, or Owlman can do to change it. Owlman thinks he is standing on Earth Prime, but he isn't. Its just another one of the infinite Earths, one where a choice was made to stand or it, or not stand it. One where a choice was made to blow it up, or not blow it up.
So, there will indeed be at least one Earth (in fact an infinite number of them) which Owlman succeeds in blowing up, but it will not be Earth Prime.
Simply put, you can't change what you can't change.
you know what i just thought of:
A) Owlman was wrong, earth prime doesnt destroy the universe (wow all that for nothing)
B) earth prime, has no longer an effect on the rest of the infinite earths (dont ask me why, i just thought out of nowhere)
other than that, i aint got *beep*
Actually, wasn't the idea not so much that on different Earths different things happen, but that we decide different things. So then, wouldn't the alternative of Owlman failing to end all reality not be that he succeeds, but that he decides not to try to end all reality?
shareThe actual reason this isn't a plot hole is because they left their universe and broke the fourth wall. They are then outside of the continuum
Like when a time traveler goes to the future. You would think if it's 50 years later, he'd be 50 years older when he got there, but that doesn't happen because he is outside of the rules and boundaries involved.
If you're not willing to suspend disbelief, then you shouldn't be watching superhero cartoons.
OwlMan's theory for there being multiple universes is that they are created from people's decisions- when we make one decision, we create another universe where we make the opposite decision. So universes do not spring up from failures or successes. Therefore OwlMan's failure does not mean another reality is created in which he succeeds.
The question still stands , there can be another dimension where Batman decides to do nothing , and Owlman succeeds.
shareThe question still stands , there can be another dimension where Batman decides to do nothing , and Owlman succeeds.
Well when they still live then maybe the Earth, in that this story took place, wasn't liked to Earth Prime.
Other planets have thinking lifeforms too that do parallel universes with the Earth in it.
See my thoughts there: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1494772/board/thread/164553164?p=2&d=233868088#233868088
There must be Krypton Prime too and whatever other planets the DC universe has.
Even an animal should create parallel worlds.
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Lincoln Lee: I lost a partner.
Peter Bishop: I lost a universe!
Its just a run of the mill Paradox!
Here is my take on it. Yes, there would be two realities, the one where the bomb was teleported away, and a reality where the bomb was not teleported away. However, those TWO realities are two non-Prime Earth's themselves. Every decision on Prime spawns a pair of Earths.
So let's say, Earth Prime, Earth 1, Earth 2. Earth Prime had the bomb. The decision is "bomb leaves Prime." The reality where bomb leaves prime is Earth 1; the reality where bomb stays on Prime is Earth 2. Neither of those results is Prime itself.
...having said all that, now it makes me think something completely new. That shows there to be the opposite possibility. Because of my explanation thus far, it seems entirely possible that HAD the bomb stayed on Prime, and exploded, it wouldn't have mattered, since there would be the mirror scenario of the bomb NOT exploding.
It's a double paradox either way.
Due to the symmetry of this whole mess... I think I just proved conclusively that I do not exist. Good bye.
I wasn't Earth Prime, if it were then there wouldn't have been any sign of civilizations at all since it's the world where no choice have ever been made. Yet we see ruins of some sort of civilization supposedly ended by man.
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