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Aphrodite Jones white-wash on Jackson?

posted 14 years ago by califor123
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My opinions:

I'll gladly admit that Jackson was one remarkable talent. And that I don't have certainty about his personal life. But tonight's Aphrodite episode about Jackson seemed to me like someone was paid-off to white wash Michael's life. The part that stood out the most to me was when Bashir's interview was discussed....or more like overly slammed. While I don't personally like Bashir too much, Aphrodite conveniently and ridiculously left out of her dismissal of Bashir's film on Jackson, that Michael clearly and emphatically stated that there was nothing wrong with having children in one's bed, and how beautiful it was to have children in one's bed. And he made a big deal of relating that to Bashir.

It's absurd that she didn't include that for at least the appearance of balance. And Aphrodite made it seem as if nothing like that was ever said by Jackson to Bashir, by totally leaving that out of her discussion, and only putting in what made her point. It was at that point, and the totally one sided opinions expressed by everyone interviewed for the episode, including Aphrodite's own statements, that the stink of white wash exuded from my television...and it's a new TV. Shame, shame, shame on someone who has a show that is presumably to relate at least something resembling the truth.

While I loved her previous episodes, and I am a Jackson music fan (recently purchased another of his CDs), I don't think I'll be trusting very much that comes out of her from this point on.

My gosh I am terribly disappointed in this woman.

Bottom line on the Jackson episode: Me thinks she hath protested too much.

America = spin, spin, spin...

[–] vicky_lc2001-1 14 years ago

Michael clearly and emphatically stated that there was nothing wrong with having children in one's bed, and how beautiful it was to have children in one's bed. And he made a big deal of relating that to Bashir.

Did you even see the take 2 of that documentary? It seems you didn't & that in itself shows you're biased as you're all to willing to watch an anti-MJ documentary but never bothered to see or understand why it was slammed, ie, the take 2 documentary.

Context is important, MJ said that it is hospitable especially to many other cultures to give your bed to guests, while he sleeps on the floor. That was what he had said. I come from a culture where many people, especially those in rural areas, give their beds to the guests while they sleep on the floor. In my culture this is normal hospitality, something you do as you give respect to an honored guest, there is nothing wrong w/ it. You know what is wrong though? That such a self-sacrificing gesture, a gesture that honors others rather than yourself, in your view is wrong. Giving is wrong. Honoring others is wrong. While self-centeredness & selfishness is honored as being right? I think MJ got it right & it is you guys who have it very very wrong. Your views on right/wrong & good/bad is so distorted it's almost malicious were evil is considered right, & good is considered wrong. Is this the common mindset in your culture?

Putting in only Bashir's biased & agenda ridden documentary is in itself biased. If you saw the take 2, you would realize that Bashir is not the good guy here, he is in fact the villain. What exactly do you mean by White wash? Have you read her book? Did you know that when she investigated MJ's case, it was a climate of anti-MJ & when she wanted the book published, every publication turned her down including her 10 year relationship w/ a particular publishing company. Their reason? They cannot produce or publish any ANY Pro-MJ book, it all has to be anti-MJ, so she had to self-publish. This wasn't white washing, this is the truth that you are biased against. You've been fed lies upon lies of sensationalism & malice that that's all you crave for. You don't want to hear the story of a good man, you want to hear the story of a bad man to justify the public lynching society & the media has put on MJ for more than 20 years. You want to justify this present day witch hunting, listen to Charles Thomson's interview up on YT. The character assassination of MJ is like nothing we have ever seen before, & people enjoy relishing in the suffering of a good man who was talented because of greed, selfishness, bitterness, envy, & ignorance.

Yes, America=spin spin spin You just can't let go of that spinning can't you? To be part of that mob frenzy of American dogma, it is sad indeed.

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[–] califor123 14 years ago

vicky, vicky, vicky,

Whoa, you're way too hormonal. Apparently you were so worked up due to your Michael hysteria, that you didn't read my post; or at least understand it. Read it again, especially my comments about Bashir, you moron.

You're not denying that Jackson said what I wrote, are you, about his seeming love of the thought of bedding down with children? Or do you get yourself off to rubbing on one of his CDs such that you can no longer think clearly?

I stand by what I wrote. You're just too much of a sycophant to think clearly.

You probably think Sarah Palin is smart, too.

But one thing is clear: you most certainly don't have much of a life. In the grand scheme of things, Michael Jackson just isn't at all important. So get another hobby, he's dead.

Besides, I'm entitled to my opinion. And when I want yours, I'll let you know what it is.

Oh, and if you don't know what I meant by white wash, you shouldn't be posting; because we might have thought you were an idiot, but then you wrote that and removed all doubt.

I doubt if you even watched her show. And if you did, and wrote your screed, your IQ doesn't quite reach room temperature.

He was an entertainer...that's it babe. I happened to think he was very talented and I love his music. But he didn't find a cure for cancer. And he was more bizarre than any dozen freaks at the circus in my opinion. Or is he typical of your dates? So pipe down and keep your undies dry. Your sleep chamber is set way too high.

Aphrodite's episode was a puff piece in my opinion. It wasn't balanced; it appeared to have been put together by a blinded fan, like you. It wasn't worthy of a crime writer, but was totally worthy of Michael's press agent.

Get over yourself, darlin'.

[–] vicky_lc2001-1 14 years ago

Whoa, you're way too hormonal. Apparently you were so worked up due to your Michael hysteria, that you didn't read my post; or at least understand it. Read it again, especially my comments about Bashir, you moron.

It seems when you can't back yourself up intellectually, you resort to sexist & crude remarks, typical.

You're not denying that Jackson said what I wrote, are you, about his seeming love of the thought of bedding down with children?

Yes I am because he did not say that, that was intentionally sensationalized by Bashir w/ his edited footage. Again, I gave you a rebuttal, the take 2 documentary w/c shows the complete footage, that clearly shows that was not what MJ said, but you refuse to even view it due to your own brainwashed tabloid American mentality.

Or do you get yourself off to rubbing on one of his CDs such that you can no longer think clearly?

LOL! I cannot believe I wasted a post on a Troll. Crude much? Thank you for coming out of the closet & finally revealing yourself TROLL. What a waste you have been. I'm not even bothering w/ your uneducated crass American ways & crude uneventful diatribe. Go troll somewhere else, you're too easily distinguished to fool anyone of your substandard lacklustre mindset.

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[–] jonathantoddsmith 14 years ago

You both need to get a room.

[–] Stickman38 13 years ago

I missed this episode but I suppose we'll never know for sure whether or not MJ had an "interest" in young boys, however, I do find it a little bizarre/unorthodox that a man would build a large amusement park on his own property just so he can be around young boys all the time. Isn't he just setting himself up for this type of rumor? Of course, this doesn't mean he actually had sexual relations with young boys but it is a really strange thing to do. And when he interacted with the kids at his park, he would walk around the park looking like and talking like a young woman which made it even more bizarre.

I think he had some kind of Peter Pan fetish. I don't know if he took this to a sexual level but it wouldn't surprise me that much if he actually did. Although, his kids (paris and prince) have never made any accusations against Michael so that makes me feel like he was just really kind to children. But still.... building a massive park on your own property is just... I don't know... weird. Most single men would build something to attract grown women.

[–] lavonware 13 years ago

He built that park for all children, not just boys. And plus since he couldn't really go to one when he was a child he built one so he could go anytime he wanted. There is nothing wrong with that. And I dont think he had a problem attracting women.

[–] Stickman38 13 years ago

. And plus since he couldn't really go to one when he was a child he built one so he could go anytime he wanted.

Spare me the abused child story please. Ok, perhaps he never went to a park when he was a kid, welcome to REAL LIFE. Not every kid gets to go to a park like that. Michael used to act like he's the only person in the whole world thats ever experienced abuse. It still doesn't excuse/explain building a theme park on your property, acting like a young woman and "playing" with boys. Sorry, it just doesn't.

I doubt he actually had sex with young boys but the whole thing is quite strange. There are quite a few rumors circulating now that MJ was a eunuch. Which would actually explain a lot of the details in his life.

Its official that Paris and Prince are not his real kids, he never had any children of his own. Most likely what happened is this... his parents saw what happened to Frankie Lyman and felt like it would be wrong to let that happen to Michael, so they had him clipped. This would ensure that his extremely high singing tone would never fade even after he went through puberty. It would also explain his extreme sense of child philanthropy. He always felt like he had to do something for kids... he always felt like he was extremely "abused" by his father and even cut ties with him after he got older. He then builds a theme park for kids and hangs out with boys all the time. He felt like his park was "neverland" as if he never grew up himself.

I think there is a strong posibility that he was a eunuch.

[–] lavonware 13 years ago

I never actually said that he was abused, I just said he never went when he was a child. He doesn't need an excuse and he does explain. He couldn't ver well go to one when he was an adult either and so he wanted one and so he built one. And this whole thing about acting like a woman is just stupid and uncalled for.

Strange it maybe to some people but doesn't have to mean its wrong either. And to the rest of your babble so what.

[–] Stickman38 13 years ago

And this whole thing about acting like a woman is just stupid and uncalled for

Did you see the Martin Bashir interview? Yes, he does walk around the park and act like a young woman. He would then invite boys to his house and play with them.

Strange it maybe to some people but doesn't have to mean its wrong either.

Personally, I don't care what the guy does on his own property or what he does with his money but I just find the whole thing a bit strange, thats all. Certainly there's a deeper reason for doing something like this than what we know. I've never heard of any other millionaire doing this other than MJ.

[–] lavonware 13 years ago

Yes I saw the Martin Bashir interview and what you said was still stupid. He invites children period but people only talk about the boys. He invites children and let them play and have fun where they might not have that chance, isn't that a good enough reason.

It seems that you do seem to care because if you didnt you wouldn't have brought it up. There is no deeper meaning behind it other than he missed his own childhood and it affected him more than it did some people. So he wanted to create the childhood he never had and wanted to make sure that other children didn't have to miss their childhood. No matter if it was from illness or being poor and not able to afford it. And there is nothing wrong with that.

[–] Stickman38 13 years ago

I never said it was "wrong" I just said it was strange. Grown men don't do stuff like that.

[–] yukaunagi 8 years ago

Exactly. The man idolized Peter Pan. And in some ways saw himself as a modern day version. Not the normality, but it doesn't make it bad.

People seem to forget that the kid who claimed Michael wanted something more from him admitted to lying.