Anyone else notice that Hollywood is constantly shoehorning in interracial couples so they can check that diversity box?
Remember when we were allowed to have movies with just white people and it wasn't called racist?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Why does it bother you? What does the fact that one person's skin is a darker color have to do with anything, and how does it change the movie? People are people, and seeing an onscreen couple that is made up of two white people is no different than seeing one made up of one white and one black person. So why do you care so much?
shareIt bothers me because it's shoehorned in. Pre 2015, there were movies/shows with interracial couples, there was diversity, but it didn't feel forced. Ever since 2015 it's become nearly impossible to have movies that have only white casts (although it's still okay to have only black casts), and that's what bothers me. To put it simply I want a truly diverse environment for movies (like pre 2015), meaning that I want movies with all white casts, all black casts (or any other minority), and mixed diverse casts. What I don't want is ONLY mixed diverse casts. I don't mind seeing interracial couples occasionally, what I don't want is for them to be shoehorned in to so many movies/shows that it no longer feels natural. It also feels like I'm being social engineered into some extreme version of woke progressive ideology and I resent that, even if I share some of these progressive views.
shareWhat you describe as shoehorned in strikes me as normal. Most, in fact nearly all, people don't care about the skin tone of their romantic partner. America is a country populated by people who can trace their ancestry to all parts of the globe, so an "all-white" film seems contrived. America isn't "all white," and your dream "all white film" seems to me unnatural. Why not enjoy films regardless of the skin color of any particular actor or actress? What about seeing a person with African or Asian ancestry is so troublesome to you? Would you be equally bothered if a movie included a couple where one of them is Irish and the other is German? That's as mixed as seeing a Senegalese man and a Finnish female, even if you personally zero on on skin tone and use that as the only characteristic that matters.
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Well, for one, it's a crappy film - just read the reviews - lol
Aside from that, you are clearly oblivious to the woke agenda - and yes, there is one. Some say it is a byproduct of ESG score system - the more woke the corporation is, the more funds it is able to obtain through from the gigantic investment firms like vanguard and blackrock, among others. Hollywood might not have any choice but go woke, in order not to go completely broke (despite its current films failing on every level).
Hollywood has been pushing a far, far left agenda for longer than I've been alive, but I don't think including black actors is somehow politically left. Despite what some try to say, racism isn't a tenet of the right, and all people, whether "woke" or not, should be fine with the presence of non-white actors in films. Let the few remaining racists bitch and moan about it, you can be completely opposed to woke, leftist politics in film without espousing or endorsing racist sentiments.
shareIf the color really doesn't matter, than by your own logic you should be fine with an all white cast. After all, what's the difference if you don't zero in on the color? In fact, if you truly believe that color doesn't matter, then you should also be fine with having Tom Cruise play Martin Luther King Jr. in a film. Now whether you truly care about color or not, doesn't really matter, but Hollywood clearly does, otherwise they wouldn't care about diversity. If it makes me a racist to want to see movies with white people, then by the same logic, it makes Hollywood racist for wanting to specifically cast black people (or any other minorities) because they want them to be represented. Color matters to them, so why can't it matter to me?
Also, there is nothing contrived about an all-white film, whether you're making a period piece, or doing a movie about a town that is mostly white, you should be able to make such a movie. There is nothing wrong with having an all white cast. Pre 2015 this was the norm, but after 2015, it's nearly impossible to be able to do that. Because of the diversity standards that have been implemented by the studios, you, as a film maker, are now forced to have a diverse cast, even if it doesn't make sense for the story. Like when they cast some black female to play the role of Anne Boleyn (wife of Henry the VIII and the queen of England, who we know historically to have been fair skinned). This is as absurd as casting Tom Cruise to play Martin Luther King Jr.
Also, when I say I want an "all-white cast", I don't even really mean literally all white in every role. In most cases, I just mean the main cast. Take for example The Hangover, it's not literally an all white cast, but the main cast is four straight white males. If this movie was made today, at least one of them would have to be black (probably would have to make one of them queer as well). Movies like 'The Hangover' are not allowed to be made anymore, and that bothers me.
You're all over the place with your response. I don't quite understand why you think a movie like The Hangover would not be allowed to be made today. Who would prevent it? I'm looking at the current week's box office results, and the #2 movie is Ticket to Paradise, starring George Clooney and Julia Roberts. I haven't seen it, though I likely will, but a glance at IMDB tells me it's mostly white actors. If you can't stand seeing non-whites, you can go see that.
I think what you are missing is that audiences want to see realistic depictions of their world, and Americans live in a country that has people of all races.
How is my response all over the place? I thought it was thorough. I explained the current state of Hollywood (as opposed to how it was pre 2015), and the role race, diversity, and wokeness plays in it (no pun intended). I addressed your points and gave you some insight into my thinking with respect to the entertainment industry .
Movies like The Hangover would not be allowed to be made today because it's not diverse enough. Many movie studios have implemented diversity/inclusion standards that pretty much force writers and movie makers to have a diverse cast. The Academy (Oscars) have also implemented such standards. In order for your movie to qualify for nomination it must adhere to those standards. This is what I mean by forced diversity.
As for Ticket to Paradise, I think it's a special case, precisely because it's staring George Clooney and Julia Roberts. They are good friends and like to work together. Given how much power they have in Hollywood, an exception in this case was made.
A better example would have been The Northman. That movie had an all-white cast (literally). But that is extraordinarily rare these days. I honestly have no idea how they got away with it. Maybe it was made outside of the Hollywood studio system.
Regarding the American audience, I don't actually think it's true that Americans want to see this precisely because it's not a realistic depiction of their world. There are many places across the country where people like to stick with their own. There's a reason why you have places like China Town, Little Italy, Polish Village, and the south east side (black) of Chicago. Many people don't live in diverse areas, so they are not used to everything looking like a rainbow flag. College students on the other hand, who are indoctrinated into the Woke cult, are. Both of these groups live in their own bubbles. It's just that the latter group wants to impose their culture onto the former. They want everyone to worship diversity like they do.
Well, the studio system has not existed since 1948, so everything is being made outside the Hollywood studio system now. But semantics aside, I asked before-- who exactly isn't allowing certain movies to be made? Anyone can make a movie. Any studio can make a movie. They exist to make money, right? If there was money to be made with a certain kind of film, someone would be making it.
Have you been to Little Italy or Chinatown? Those are tourist traps. Italians and Chinese don't live there, at least not in numbers greater than any other group. I think the reality is that only a tiny number of people, you being one of them, care about race. The rest of us just want to see a good movie.
Just search for "diversity standards Hollywood", you'll see plenty of articles about The Academy forcing movies to be diverse, about laws in California being passed to force movie production teams to have representation, and many other ways of pressuring film makers to submit to the diversity/inclusion/representation cult. Go see for yourself.
As for Little Italy, yes, here in Chicago it's primarily an Italian neighborhood. I lived in the Polish Village, next to it, where as you might have guessed, is mostly polish immigrants. There are no black people in these neighborhoods (not literally, but 99% white). If you go to the south east side of Chicago, it's 99.9% black. So yes, in these neighborhoods, you don't have much diversity. They prefer to stick with their own.
"The Academy forcing movies to be diverse, about laws in California being passed to force movie production teams to have representation, and many other ways of pressuring film makers to submit to the diversity/inclusion/representation cult"
praise allah that hollywood never do this back when they actually make good film from 1950s-1990s!!
film shit now so this make not much difference!!
I agree films are shit now, but this also affects TV shows. And there are still good TV shows being made but are often ruined by woke bullshit (forced diversity, intersectional feminism, race swapping, gender swapping etc.)
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there is demand for woke bullshits so entertainment industrys is on mission to satify pc mob by giving them what they want to sees - heroic womens and minority, evil white mens etc.
this might change if they all fail and people stop watch.
i read article online of white man writer in hollywood who says he is given black understudy to show ropes by his film company boss. then when done, they fire white man and give black man his job hahahahahahah. is that they do now in hollywoods?
a good story is a good story. doesnt matter who write. i can see film and tv suffer now with woke attitudes infecting good storys and ruin.
They showed hardly any pda the whole film. If they hadn't mentioned it you wouldn't know they were an item. I just liked seeing Rachel Brosnahan in a bathtub.
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