NOT A GOOD FILM!


it was a ridiculous story for a drama.
it was a ridiculous story for a black comedy.
complete waste of time.

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I thought the actual story was okay....the problem i had is that the guy who played the lead role (the son) was such a rubbish actor that it ruined the whole mood of the film for me. When he flew into a 'rage' over the letters from his girlfriend was almost laughable!






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I thought this film was so pathetic and boring. the dvd cover made it out to be a some great Brit gangster overated movie.

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I think you have missed the point, it's not supposed to be Lock stock (which is a good thing) I thought this was a great little film.

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could have been halfway decent with a different star, bad acting and not believable in the role. Maybe he could play an extra standing in a line at a coffee shop, not a lead role as a gangster.

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the problem i had is that the guy who played the lead role (the son) was such a rubbish actor that it ruined the whole mood of the film for me


Yeah, rubbish actor and very difficult to look at too.

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What do you mean 'very difficult to look at'?

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When he flew into a 'rage' over the letters from his girlfriend was almost laughable!


Are you a bit behind or something? I am really sorry to have to offend you like this but that scene was clearly meant to be funny, I laughed my ass off.

It showed him being really unstable and calling for his mom, then after screaming awhile he finds them at the place where he put them and where he was looking for them in the first place.

Hahahaha, I love that scene!

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I completely agree with you - funny that the point of the film in a large part is to turn the typical conventions of the british gangster movie on it's head, yet most people assume they have failed at making a 'good' gangster movie, where what they mean by good is conventional. I found it highly entertaining, however saying that, I was born in a part of Britain that is this sort of crime culture, and I live in Brighton and am familiar with the in joke of this sort of crime culture of Britain versus how it's usually presented in exciting, sexy gangster films, so maybe I found that additionally entertaining.

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To everyone here, minus hels-dunleavy and the other couple of folks who got it. This film was an EXCEPTIONAL psycho-family drama about people who happen to have grown up in a pervasive criminal environment where deceit, betrayal, and eventual destruction of each and every person is guaranteed; and guaranteed to be awful. I live for films like this. The co-writer/editor/producer/lead actor Robin Hill, real life son of other lead actor Robert Hill did a credible to tremendous job of acting and had a whole lot more to do with the film as well. That *beep* is RELATIVE to the viewer. Personally, I was blown away by his performance, though it didn't hold a candle to those of Robert Hill and Julia Deakins in the roles of husband and wife, two of the most honest portrayals of absolute amorality still capable of some sort of love... a twisted, misguided, destructive, horrible love, but love nonetheless. Nobody knows me here and I don't know nobody. I think I just finished watching one of the best two of three movies in the last twenty years. The soundtrack itself was a *beep* marvel. It was a seamless mix of pre-war American blues and late 60's/early 70's English folk that included the amazing Karen Dalton. Add the father Robert Hill's character Bill's affinity for American blues, and it is the music that essentially drives the film. The music and the exchange between the characters; the talking, the dry British air mixed with the disgust and disappointment of life. It is a grim *beep* film. That's true. I'll give you that. But the funniest, discomforting and thrilling expression of miserablism I've ever seen. Let me cut to the chase. The following is a list of filmmakers/films/writer/books/anything else that I felt a reverberation from in this movie: James Cain, Jim Thompson, Abel Ferrara, Mike Leigh, Michael Winterbottom, Lindsay Anderson, Ken Loach. John Schlesinger, John Cassavetes, Robert Altman, The Coen Bothers, Martin Scorcese, Samuel Fuller, Sam Peckinpah, Nicholas Ray, Leonard Cohen, Flann O'Brien, Samuel Beckett, Little Murders, Mikey and Nickey, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, Jean Luc Goddard, Luis Bunuel, and a bunch of other people I can't remember right now. I think people are more goddamned ready to judge than they are to enjoy. I'm gonna watch it again. I think all you naysayers should too.

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You're spot on. This is a real gem and feels like it could have started life as a play. The comedy was so dark and the characters' amorality hilarious and disturbing by turns. The Mother especially so. I think some people are wanting/expecting more of a 'car goes boom' movie and are not familiar with character driven cinema. It did take me a few minutes to adjust before I realised it was more Mike Leigh than Guy Ritchie. But once I settled in it was terrific.

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Wow TexasPsycho, I loved all the films you mentioned, but to me this film failed on a blakc comedy level. The jokes were unnatural and too obvious for my liking (do you have a web presence?), but I did find the iflm partly succesful as a disturbing thriller.

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Totally agree, watched this tonight and it is clearly meant to be funnny! I thought that scene was hilarious

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I thought it was pretty funny.

"Most of dialogue is unintelligible"
-I don't understand why a movie is bad because YOU can't understand the dialogue, are you from Britain? I'm not and I still understood it, so I dunno what the problem is. By that logic, every movie a deaf person sees is bad because they can't hear the dialogue! See how silly that is? Also, most movies these days come with subtitles, so you really have no reason here.


"Grubby, stupid, unsympathetic characters"
-Which was the point, so they accomplished what they set out to do, how is that a bad thing?

"Cinematically boring, with endless close-up interior shots inside crumby drab house."
-Could you be more vague please? By cinematically boring you seem to mean VISUALLY unappealing, which again was the point. The house looked that way on purpose. I liked the way it was shot, it made sense in regards to the story/ characters/ setting/ plot.

"just disgusting and not at all credible."
-How was it disgusting? And not credible? You sound like the exact type of person you describe in your final 'assessment': pseudohip. You're so vague nobody knows what your critiques mean half the time, but i'm sure you think it's witty instead. I assure you, it's not...



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"Also, most movies these days come with subtitles, so you really have no reason.... "

I have to disagree with you on that statement. English Closed Captions are not always available in films like this one which has subtitles/closed captioning in Spanish.

It's very hard to understand the mumbling of the characters voices which leads to a " not a good film!"

"..I'll get my cape..."
"..I wanna put dem paws on him. Dig that.."

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Mumbling? There were only a couple of scenes where I didn't understand what anybody was saying, but that was due to the thickness of their British accents, which didn't make it a bad film---it just means you didn't understand them, which is perfectly all right--because certain Brit accents are, in fact, hard to understand.I admit I had to turn up the volume at certain points, but then I've watched British films forever, so I was already used to the accents anyway.

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Look! Did you see that? No? That's because that was the point of the film, which you evidently missed. In future, perhaps watch films only in your native language, or at least learn to communicate clearly in the one you feel qualified to critique. Better still, take up a new hobby, your post history suggests you don't like films much.

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You dont understand british humour. This was pretty funny, and I'm not even British.
Oh and moron the characters were grubby and stupid - THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT!!! Do you often struggle with simple concepts?

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A film about a dysfunctional psychopathic family with dysfunctional psychopathic friends. You could see within the first ten minutes that it wasn't going to be your normal British gangster film. I think it was entertaining and well put together. I enjoyed it.



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I agree completely!

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