Dont get it!!!!


The guy who got the f....was he a hoodie?
Why did we never see their faces?
How did they move about like ninjas?
And why the hell were people still in the school so late?
Plus, the ending was crap!

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Not everything needs to be spoonfed to the viewer. Every single aspect of a story doesn't need to be displayed in gory detail. As for how they were moving, google "parkour".

"Nothing says "OBEY ME" like a severed head on a fence post."

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Same, they was more than 1 hoodie though.
I didn't get the motivation either... I grasped the fact that they were "F" students but that doesn't even remotely give motivation for running around their school at night, smashing faces, defacing and generally torturing the hell out of teachers...
I also don't think enough was given to work out a motivation, maybe the writer didn't even know and I certainly don't expect the movie to "spoonfeed" us, but at least give us a little pointer into the right direction....
Despite the bad writing (I would put it down to that) it has some decent effects in and the acting wasn't too bad...
Agree with you on the ending as well... There were just too many things left unanswered... Maybe it's just me though...

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The strange noises that surrounded them, the way they moved and the fact they never spoke and appeared to have no faces suggests they were supernatural.

It wasn't that late. If school finishes at 3.30pm and Katie had an hour's detention then it kicked off no later than 4.30. Probably a bit dark for that time of day even in winter, but it happens.

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This film was a total waste of 90 minutes.
Can't believe crap like this is made.

My roids burn with a wrath-like vengence.

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Hey there.

Sorry but -and I mean it in the nicest possible way- why don't you use your imagination? A film doesn't have to be "explained" to you: it's not a financial article. Think about what you just saw, and try to understand/guess... Any work of art is a collaboration between the artist(s) and the audience. Both have to play their part in the process.

As far as I am concerned, I thought that this film made a powerful point about evil: it precisely doesn't need to be explained. (This is what, incidentally, the remake of "Halloween" got so wrong, trying to find convenient, satisfying motivations etc.) The most terrifying aspect of evil is -as Dr. Loomis himself once said (I paraphrase here)- that it exists for no reason: it just is. Some people will want to hurt others.
The fact that no explanation is given (by "F") makes it all the more powerful: the characters under attack can't find a way of foiling the assault, being at a loss to comprehend what's going on.
The fact that the attackers' faces are not shown and they don't speak is part of this deliberate tactic.
If you can cast your mind back to Spielberg's first movie("Duel"), you will remember that the trucker's face is never visible! That's what made him all the more terrifying.

Also, the film answers one of your questions ("why the hell were people still in the school so late?").

Best, L.

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Thank you Loigsan I'm in complete agreement,

I watched the film. Not the best I've ever seen but intriguing and interesting. A 6 for me...
Character development? Enough for the genre why would you want more?
All the background creepy noises. The faceless hoodies. This was evil - that needs no explanation or back-plot, or character development. With no motive or reasoning behind the attacks, character development (short of the relationship between father and daughter) were fairly irrelevant.

Considering the positive reviews of utterly dreadful films on this site, particularly in the horror or thriller genre, I'm surprised at how badly this film has been received.

For me the main plot seemed to be the faceless hoodies tearing the hell out of everyone in sight, with the hapless Mr Anderson increasingly likely as the film went on to take the frame at the end as the pathetic drunk whose life has taken a nosedive. Good twists, including the shortened ending, and a pretty creepy film considering the obviously low budget.

Explanations or motivations? Well we could have them spoon-fed to us, or we could just sit and think a bit about what the film is trying to tell us. Society is breeding these "F's" and the associated lack of respect for authority that comes with it.

Was this a bunch of disaffected teenagers? Perhaps. Perhaps not. You choose...

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Sorry but -and I mean it in the nicest possible way- why don't you use your imagination? A film doesn't have to be "explained" to you: it's not a financial article. Think about what you just saw, and try to understand/guess... Any work of art is a collaboration between the artist(s) and the audience. Both have to play their part in the process.


Though I normally agree with you, I would argue in the case of this movie that the filmmaker did not hold up his part of that bargain. I am all for movies not explaining everything and I love it when things are left to the imagination, however there has to be some indication of what is going on. The director does not even steer the viewers in any direction. It's almost as if he wants the viewer to write the movie and he watches it.

Even movies that rely on the imagination of the viewer have to have some idea of what the film is. If the director doesn't know the story, how can you expect the viewers to be led in the right direction?

As far as I am concerned, I thought that this film made a powerful point about evil: it precisely doesn't need to be explained.


True, it doesn't. And I agree with your comment on the "Halloween" remake. But the reason is does not work in this movie is the same reason it worked in the original "Halloween." In the original movie, we know nothing about Laurie Strode. We are shone one day of her life. "Expelled" introduces us to a back story about this teacher. It makes a strong point of showing his difficulties with the student who attacked him, his problems with the principal and his failed lawsuit against the school. It takes us through this man's downward spiral. By doing this, the movie is telling us that this information is important. But it's not. Every bit of foreshadowing was completely unimportant.

In the original "Halloween," we didn't need to know so much about Laurie. That movie showed us a girl who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. That is not what happened in "Expelled." We were shown all of this backstory for a reason, and it didn't deliver.

There is a difference between using our imagination and outright writing the story for the director. This movie is a complete failure.

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agree, waste of time for any minute watching this crap.

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I agree.

And the people who pretend they don't want to know why things happened. You do really, you are just pretending you don't cos you liked the film.

This wasn't just a story about a mad killer who decided to hack people for no reason and therefore 'is just evil'.

This was many hooded killers and all in a school. Why did they want to do it? and what happened to them? Who were they?

These things should be explained so people can say, 'i get it now' instead of being lazy and just finishing because the main character escaped....

silly ending and no reason for anything = crap film

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It may have been that the guy getting the F was a complete 'Red Herring'. He may or may not have been behind the attack, or in could be just a case of a group acting out of pure spite.

Having their faces covered added ambiguity to the hoodies. Was one of them the guy who got the F? Were they even students? Perhaps they weren't even human beneath their hoods.
Keeping the faces of the "Monsters" hidden has long been a troupe of movies and television; it robs them of their humanity, for example- Darth Vader, Michael Myers in Halloween. Keeping their faces hidden also hides any clue to their motivation, were their faces sneering in glee, twisted in rage, calmly impassive or full of fear as they stalked their prey?
Humanity's greatest fear is that of the unknown.

Their movement's could have been attributed to an inference that they were accustomed to stealth, useful in such criminal activities as burglary and evading the police. Such skill could also be developed by parkour or skate-boarding. Their stealthy movements could also add credence to the theory that they are supernatural creatures.

The security guards were on the night shift, Kate had detention, Anderson had to supervise his daughter, the caretaker was working and the rest of the teachers were just finishing their work before leaving. Despite it being dark, it may have just been at the time of year when the evenings get dark early; hence the lack of concern on the part of the Head-mistress and the police.

As for the ending; To have everything resolved may have seemed too "Hollywood" to have everything neatly resolved and not have been in keeping with the rest of the film. Kate's relationship with her father, Anderson's paranoia and alcoholism and his personal relationships and the problem of teen crime in society cannot be sorted in 90 mins and is an allegory for the themes it addressed.

On a personal note, I'm in two minds about this film. On the one hand I felt this film to be suspenseful and engaging. On the other; I felt it to be the wet-dream of a nihilistic Daily Mail reader.

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I just missed the start of this last night on Film4 and my initial impression was that this was going to be an intriguing drama about a man's decline and nervous breakdown.

It then became something TOTALLY different but I decided to then go back and watch the whole thing from the start on Film4 + 1 which meant I stayed up until 5am!!!

So I was very disappointed to see that what it transformed into was an unpleasant slasher movie.

Some parts of it were so unrealistic e.g.

- an after school detention still going on after 6pm
- the facial injuries to the two female teachers
- the parkour thugs
- their ability to write threatening messages in milkshake without the teacher noticing someone there even though he was looking straight at the mess on the window.

Because of this and the fact that he came out of the whole thing without as much as a scratch, I started to think that maybe this was all in the teacher's mind and was part of his breakdown.

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