This is propaganda?


So Russian troops are inside Georgia, Geogia defends itself, and Georgia is somehow to blame for something? I'm quite confident that the world will hear more about Russia's aggression thanks to the release of this film.

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If it were "Russia's aggression" there would be no Georgia.
Or there is a better explanation - Georgia tried to capture South Ossetia and had its ar$e handed to them by the russians.

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Oh, that clears it up... Russia didn't decimate Georgia, so Russia must be innocent... Is that Russian logic too? That's INSANE!!!

Russia amassed troops at the Georgian border before the conflict: FACT.
Russian troops were operating WITHIN the borders of Georgia, constituting an invasion: FACT.

Where am I wrong?

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You do know that Russia has common border with Georgia, right? It's not like they've never had any problems in Caucasus before. FACT!
Georgia was trying to recapture Abkhazia and South Ossetia since USSR collapsed. FACT!
Do south ossetians want to live in Georgia? NO! Should they be forced to? Well, you tell me.

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I will tell you. Actually I'm from Abkhazia, but it's forbidden to me to go and live there because my ethnicity is Georgian; Free people can not be Nazi's, right? Now Abkhazians are not free, they are captured by Russians. Georgians and Abkhazains are of same ethnicity, and historically we shared one land, we dont need Russia's "HELP". What you say is typical Russian propaganda nothing more! I hope now you understand?!

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Now you know how palestinians feel.

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Georgia started a military offensive to take the Ossetian capital is also fact provided by an international factfinding mission.

Western intelligence services also support as fact that Russia only sent combat forces through the Roki tunnel after the offensive started.

Further details of the factfinding mission was that it found no justification for the Georgian military operation since it found no Russian invasion or unusual shift in the security situation at the time. Thus the escalation was mainly due to Georgia's military buildup and offensive, not to any Russian or Ossetian actions.


Overall the paper also found that Russia responded disproportional to the Georgian aggression and was equally in violation of international law when it turned its defensive measures of safeguarding its peacekeeping forces and enforcing their mandate into offensive actions against Georgian soil.

For whatever reason Saakashvili started it, the Russians already wary about the region for years and quite clear about what they'd do to any provocation did respond to his provocation by a swift and massive response. And now Georgia sits there and neither NATO nor the EU will want to touch them with a stick for years because of their own stupidity.

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Russia's most active military district being located within 100 miles of South Ossetia: FACT

Russia having a military exercise a few weeks before Georgian invasion: FACT

Georgia massing it's entire except troops abroad to the boarder of South Ossetia: FACT

Russia having the capability to find out that Georgia is amassing it's troops for an invasion: FACT

Georgia sending UAV's over the republics of Abkazia and South Ossetia Months before the invasion and subsequently having them shot down: FACT

Georgia building up it's military with new weapons, tanks and other systems and western training: FACT

"Where am I wrong?"

EVERYTHING YOU SAID. =)

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Russia amassed troops at the Georgian border before the conflict: FACT.
Russian troops were operating WITHIN the borders of Georgia, constituting an invasion: FACT.

Where am I wrong?


You are forgetting about piecekeepers that happened to be Russians, that Georgia and international community agreed with. When Georgia attacked and killed piecekeepers Russia retaliated and pushed aggressors back where they came from.

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Yawn.

Georgian state-sponsored terrorism machine / war-criminals attack innocent, freedom loving people of South Ossetia (all they wanted is independence from Georgian corruption, totalitarianism and oppression) and massacre old people, women and kids with carpet artillery shelling. Russia tries to stand up for the poor and hapless civilians, risking the lives of its troops to lessen the amount of suffering in the world, something that America aspires to do in a number of countries as well, and has a successful military campaign with minimum civilian casualities in Georgia. Georgia launches a propaganda machine that Goebbels would've been proud of -- > enter 5 days of war.

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Buacha. Funny how people criticise propaganda of the other side of the conflict by creating their own ridiculous propaganda ("Russia tries to stand up for the poor and hapless civilians, risking the lives of its troops to lessen the amount of suffering in the world" - that's comedy gold).

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"Russia tries to stand up for the poor and hapless civilians"

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Some naive russians/russian sympathisers on here.

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Yes, it is. Was Georgia realy defending itselfs? I don't think so! Georgia was the first which opened fire and I gonna talk about it now. This movie show that russian planes bombed georgian villages, helicopters killed running people,dead civilians in the villages and on the roads, russian armor bombing houses whithout any reason,the bounty hunters on the russian side, osetians killing peaceful people, Saakashvili won't any war, there was provocations from russian side, and he tried to do everything he kuld to avoid the war. And they sad that the russian tanks which get in Georgia first and that Georgia don't even answer on it and only called USA and EU to help them, russians killed peacekeepers, that was only russians viewpoint in the medias and no one ask georgian's and what is the most interresting that Saakashvili wanted to avoid much civilian offers. Well, I wont to ask now the creatores of this movie-georgians and amerikans. Why are you LYING?! Do you think the people such idiots that they gonna belive you?! Don't you think that they have internet and can se and read about this war?! They can see that was georgians who opened the fire first, on sleeping city Cxinval by the morning from artillery, that 90% of died civilians in this war was osetines, how peaceful people hided in basements and georgian troops was dropping granades in those, how georgian troops shot civilians from amerikan weapons?! People run away and they just killed them and laughed, and they was such an idiots that took movies by their mobil phones, and when they RUN, leaved the phones and all their weapones, that russians kuld get it. If you think that only 2-4 rokets means bombing, what can you say about Cxinval?! Gori wasn't souch bombed, but Cxinval was. Why don't you show Cxinval, REALY destroyed city, REALY killed people on the roads and the few osetians who was protecting their homes, their destroyed homesrunning osetian peaceful people, the dead road from Cxinval which was pelted by georgians, the bounty hounters from Ukraine, osetians, who lost their families, georgians who run living their tanks when russians came, that was only Saakashvili, who talked on tv, two osetians who would tell about russians attack on their village, but instead admited that was georgians and the anchorman, who inturrapted the program!? You've got to show also amerikan militery trainers exactly before the war began and weapon transportation from USA and Ukraine!? You want to show only that you want the people must to see!?
Russia *beep* Saakashvilis Georgia up, and USA as well! Don't try to convince the people that Georgia was the offer in this war!

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Putin is following the Adolph Hitler starter kit bullet point by point. From the invasion of Poland all the way down to dispanding the government and changing the term limit laws to basically install himself as president for life. Georgia has been named as having the least corrupt governments in the world and Putin makes Viktor Chebrikov seem like a sane reasonable person. Now we have President Obama promising outgoing President Dmitry Medvedev that he will back off if he is elected again. Does the name Neville Chamberlain and Munich Accords mean anything to these people.

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That is quite a bit of hyperbole, topped off by the inevitable tagline about "Munich" and "appeasement." You seem to have forgotten that two biggest mass murderers in the 20th century were Georgians (Stalin and Beria) and that more Georgians fought for the Nazis than against.

This film is patent propaganda, made at a time that the Georgians spent some 30 million in the US in public relations an lobbying. The Georgians got ripped off, the film is unwatchable.

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Yes. Now I'm waiting for the Russian propaganda movie with georgians torturing ossetian civilians with NATO advisers planing the invasion of the Caucasus.

Juliet Parrish: You can't win a war if you're extinct!

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Actually russian gay troops kicked your ass very badly in 2008 if I remember well, having said that I agree with the russian double standards Chechenya/South Ossetia and if they were in good trust they had withdrawn from North Ossetia and let the unified State of Ossetia exists as it should be because that country was divided between Russia and Georgia.

Juliet Parrish: You can't win a war if you're extinct!

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stupid movie that is based on lies. U.S. and Europe recognized that Georgia started the war

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I have to agree, this movie is one-sided and goes around the truth!
Hollywood trying to make Russia look like the bad guy.

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Because Russia is the bad guy.

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It always cracks me up when I hear that word(propaganda)I really thought it had died with the 60s.I cannot believe anyone still uses it.

Illigitimi non Carborundum

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"So Russian troops are inside Georgia, Geogia defends itself, and Georgia is somehow to blame for something?"

Dear OP, could you please explain to me why Georgia attacked South Ossetia? Which led to the death of Russian peacekeepers which in turn led to Russian retaliation against Georgian aggression? Hence the angry Russian troops facing down against your corrupt buddies in Georgia in the first place?

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