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So the mormon religion was started by a con man. they have rights.


they can hate who the want right? they used to say black people were fallen angels, until some "revelation" changed their religious doctrine. Non mormons have to understand that mormons are for the most part guilible fools who were born into a time tested brainwashing scheme. Their founded was a con artist for goodness sakes.

But they still have the right to hate anyone. This is america afterall.

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Your broad generalizations and inflammatory language make you seem no better than the religious bigots.

Obviously, the Mormon Church did a very bad (and, I believe, very un-Christian) thing to their fellow Americans in their effort to deny gay Americans equal rights.

One can be fully critical of that, while not demonizing all Mormons as stupid haters.

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Yes, of course LDS can hate or fear anyone they want, or are told to...their's is a private organization (yet one that gets tax exempt status).

The problem is when religious groups, like the LDS, try to fund or support their individual interpretation of what "the gods" want into secular law, to control everybody else.

At that point, it's a whole different situation.

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great point cookiela2001. if you god tells you not to drink alcohol or caffenine, then ok don't do it. but don't go around trying to pass laws that restrict my ability to enjoy alcohol or caffinine just because you are too stupid to release that a convicted con man made up your whole religion (yes joeseph smith was a convicted con man in new york).

i really hate mormons. i mean there's a point where stupidity just becomes criminal.

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<< i really hate mormons. i mean there's a point where stupidity just becomes criminal. >>

There are nice Mormons. Like every other faith, there are different levels of conviction, and even knowledge as to what the church's past is. You might be interested in the site mormonsfor marriage, which is lead by the Mormon mom who's interviewed in the documentary. I have a low threshhold for adults with "invisible friends," as well, but they're not all necessarily evil.

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have you looked at the middle east? people are killing each other over fan fiction for god's sake.

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Mmmm....well, those are unbalanced people who'd be out killing someone even if there WERE no religion.

Besides which...I don't think there's many Mormons in the Middle East.

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And we can't blame religion on how people misinterpret and abuse it to support their own twisted views of the physical world. There's a lot that religion has to offer and many ways it can help people, if it's actually used to help and not to force or hurt people.

(And this coming from an atheist.)

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Right. I don't mind people having religious faith...as long as it doesn't drive people to take away a group's civil rights, or fly airplanes into buildings.

Religious convictions are personal things and should remain that way. It is when the True Believer tries to make the personal religious issue a public policy that we run into problems.

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>>>Their founded was a con artist for goodness sakes.


Correct. The founder Joe Smith was a liar and a charlatan.



South Park Episodes that Parody & Mock Religion: http://www.imdb.com/list/OwT_2blLbxQ/

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