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Cronenberg's best since Crash, but problem with ending


Since the so-so A History of Violence and A Dangerous Method (I haven't seen Eastern Promises), Cronenberg is finally back to the style, sensibility and themes he does best.

However, I thought the ending was lacking, as in, the movie didn't have one. Reading a plot summary of the book, it seems that it did end with Packer's death. But it seems to be in vogue to have ambiguous endings in movies where it doesn't actually work nowadays. As in Martha Marcy May Marlene, and Shame. The most important part of the plot is the ending, and in movies that are at least partially plot-driven the ending needs to work. Leaving it completely open is a kind of cop-out. In a movie like Videodrome the kind-of-ambiguous ending worked perfectly however.

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I kind of agree, actually. That said, it was Cronenberg's decision and how he wanted to leave it. I would have preferred the book ending to some degree (even a gunshot after the screen went to black would have done it for me), but I'm not one to criticize Cronenberg's decisions, I don't think.

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The book doesn't technically end explicitly with the death of Eric Packer. Like the film, we're left waiting for the shot to ring out. While Benno does say in his writings that he killed Eric Packer, the man is so unsound in mind that it's impossible to say for certain if this is actually true.

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Does the movie have any scenes without Eric Packer in them? Perhaps this is done Sopranos style, in that when the killing shot comes, he doesn't hear it nor see it, because his consciousness is snuffed out. One moment, he's sitting on the couch waiting, and the next moment, nothingness. No symmetry, no 'neat wrapper', asymmetry. Just like Eric and fungus man were discussing at the end.

We experience the same thing because this movie is told from the POV of Eric, there's no 'third party omniscient camera' that lets us see things outside of Packer's POV.

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Thanks for the correction.
I mistakenly wrote The End of Violence (another good movie btw) first, but I changed it now.

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Cronenberg talks about this on the dvd extras. He deliberately wanted an ambiguous ending. The "Citizens of Cosmopolis" feature is really good, it's not commentary, but it's like a documentary of the filming, with all the actors and the director doing little interviews during the filming.
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http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/arts-and-culture/cover-story/1918862 91.html

Best Adapted Screenplay
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What should have won overall: David Cronenberg’s script for Cosmopolis makes great a so-so Don DeLillo novel, although its real power emerged when the actors came to speak their lines. Who knew Robert Pattinson was put on earth to deliver overly-stylized DeLillo dialogue?
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Really cool pics to go along with an article about DC, pre ADM:
http://purefilmcreative.com/baker-street/heads-will-be-shrunk.html?lik e=1

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Tiff 2013: The Cronenberg Project: Long Live The New Flesh: The Cronenberg Project

Additional details announced for The Cronenberg Project, including major exhibition David Cronenberg: Evolution, art exhibition, two film programmes, special guests, eBook, digital extension and virtual museum

Toronto – Piers Handling, CEO and Director, Tiff and Noah Cowan, Artistic Director, Tiff Bell Lightbox along with David Cronenberg came together this morning at a press conference held at Tiff Bell Lightbox to unveil exciting new details of The Cronenberg Project. Included in the announcements were the full film retrospective and sidebar film programme, eBook and a selection of special guests and events.

The Cronenberg Project, Tiff’s multi-platform celebration of Cronenberg’s work, will have its world premiere at Tiff Bell Lightbox from November 1, 2013 to January 19, 2014. Additional details for the original film exhibition David Cronenberg: Evolution, digital-experience extension Body/Mind/Change, visual art exhibition David Cronenberg: Transformation, the David Cronenberg.

http://www.soundonsight.org/tiff-2013-the-cronenberg-project/
more here.

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Patrick Sheen ‏@TV_PROD1
Interview: David Cronenberg on Cosmopolis Just when you thought David Cronenberg couldn't surprise you, here comes Cosmopolis , a halluci

Nina ‏@NikRa77
really enjoyed MTV First with Robert Pattinson. I have to see Cosmopolis.

aura_1025 ‏@laura_1025
So @cosmogirl7481 & I played the most fun game @ the Cosmopolis viewings as ppl came into the theater, "Fandom, DC Fanboy or Neither" LMAO

Harry Knowles ‏@headgeek666
Why is COSMOPOLIS not in a theater in Austin... It's *beep* new Cronenberg, we are a New Flesh kinda town!

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Niles Schwartz ‏@nilesfiles
The Benno scene from COSMOPOLIS is one of the most emotionally resonant and powerful things in any movie over the last decade.

Matt Pritchard ‏@mattpritcha2
Cosmopolis definitely doesn't deserve the crappy reviews it's got on IMDB. Big film up to now.

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Russell Hainline ?@RussellHFilm
Hey, I took part in this David Cronenberg retrospective. Guess which movie I raved about? Hint: Robert Pattinson.
http://moviemezzanine.com/examining-the-career-of-david-cronenberg/

Cosmopolis (2012):

“Imagine paint being splattered onto a canvas. Can the artist predict precisely what his piece will look like? He could control the movement of his arm, the position of the brush in his hand, the colors of paint he wields… but will he see every drop’s placement, every splatter’s shape and formation before it becomes reality? Perhaps he could devise a formula, but think of the variables: air movement, temperature, surface tension, the various speeds and angles of the arm, the brush handle, the hairs holding the paint, the paint as it separates from the brush, and the endless other variables one could imagine if you dove head first into it.

Cosmopolis, appropriately, begins with opening credits laced with such Pollockesque splashes. It’s a film about the variables, our desire to control life with the perfection of a machine without losing the emotion and feeling of humanity. Such a desire is a lost cause. You can no better predict a human life or the economy of a major superpower than you can the patterns of paint hitting the canvas.

Cronenberg’s icy and stylish approach compliments his adaptation of Don DeLillo’s novel, and his ensemble of brilliant actors, led by Robert Pattinson in the role of a lifetime, expertly navigates the novelistic, philosophical dialogue without missing a beat. It’s tense, ambitious, and soulful. I hope Cronenberg, DeLillo, and Pattinson join forces again; in Cosmopolis, every splash of paint, every moment, a mini-masterpiece.”

–Russell Hainline (Movie Mezzanine)

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The Playlist reacts to the trailer:

After the rather staid costume drama of "A Dangerous Method," a film that failed to embrace the kink promised in the premise of an sado-masochistic affair between Jung and a former patient, many started to wonder: had David Cronenberg gone soft? The filmmaker has been steadily moving into more mainstream territory, but generally managed to keep a little of the transgressiveness that made his name with films from "The Brood" to "Crash." But with the Keira Knightley/Michael Fassbender drama? Not so much.

Well it appears that that was only a short-term issue: the teaser trailer for Cronenberg's next, the Don DeLillo adaptation "Cosmopolis," has arrived, and it looks like classic Cronenberg stuff. Following a twentysomething billionaire, who fears he's going to be murdered, as he travels through Manhattan in a limo on the worst traffic day in record, the film's been getting more attention than the filmmaker's used to, seeing as it stars "Twilight" star Robert Pattinson, who, for certain demographics, is one of the biggest hearthrobs to hit the big screen in a long time.

But that attention doesn't seem to have made Cronenberg water things down -- the brief, French-subtitled clip (which seems a little reminiscent of "Enter The Void" in its neon-inflected marketing) has sex, violence, body horror and bizarre images.

It looks, to be frank, absolutely brilliant, and it's certainly dampened any doubts we might have had for the time being. And R-Patz? Damned if he doesn't look, in the very brief glimpses, right at home. Could all the doubters about to be proved wrong with a terrific performance?
That being said, we'd said the same about "Bel Ami," and that did not turn out well... All signs point to a Cannes premiere for the film, which will open in France on May 23rd: there's no U.S. distributor or release date just yet, but it can't be too far away.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/watch-first-teaser-for-david-cr onenbergs-cosmopolis-with-twilight-star-robert-pattinson-is-seriously- impressive?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Matt Pritchard ‏@mattpritcha2
Cosmopolis definitely doesn't deserve the *beep* reviews it's got on IMDB. Big film upto now.

Greg Dinskisk ‏@GregDinskisk
@RussellHFilm Haven't seen THE COUNSELOR yet, but COSMOPOLIS is my #1 2012 film, so I'm sure it is ;)

Niles Schwartz ‏@nilesfiles
The Benno scene from COSMOPOLIS is one of the most emotionally resonant and powerful things in any movie over the last decade.

Ryan Sartor ‏@ryansartor
Robert Pattinson is really good in COSMOPOLIS.

Tracy Bargo ‏@tracylashelle
Robert Pattinson's arrogance and cockiness in #Cosmopolis, is by far the most attractive thing ever. <3

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CITY CONNECT Film Review: Cosmopolis, By Eric Wood

Even the characters themselves come across as artificial beings. Robert Pattinson gives the best performance of his career as the mega rich Eric Packer. For want of a better analogy, Pattinson turns Packer into this vamperic character, who doesn’t react to anything that happens around him. He’s completely cut off emotionally, as are the rest of the characters. But in the case of Pattinson’s performance, it is more highlighting the soullessness of people who benefit the most from capitalism.

Many people have criticized the film for not being emotionally engaging, but on the whole it does seem the point of Cronenberg’s film. He doesn’t want you to empathize with Packer, he wants you to see what the world is like around him, and try and figure out how it all connects to his own path of self-destruction.

It is a superbly slick and stylish film, with a great cast led by the superb Robert Pattinson, and a truly unique script. Cronenberg tackles the difficult questions about capitalism, and with great intelligence and originality, leaves the audience with just enough room to try and figure out what is going on for themselves. In my opinion, the best film of 2012 so far.


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I had no doubt that Packer had been shot. I didn't need to actually see it. I think it's much more powerful to just go black and start the credits. I was ready to start breathing again.

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