sometimes people hire the wrong people for projects. pattinson in my opinion is a good actor but twilight ruined his career for some reason..im pretty sure he is going to be better though.
i love cronenberg and i am a staunch believer of the fact his movies are thrilling and fills the average viewer with unease and excitement.
so did patty ruin it? or it was ruined before he was cast?
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No he didn't but his direction from Cronenberg was abominable. I have seen it a number of times now and before I wrote this saw all the trailers and followed the shooting of it. I had great hopes for Cronenberg because of his past films, especially eXistenZ which he wrote and also filmed.
However he completely misread DeLillo's Cosmopolis but he is in good company as most of the academics did also. The only one on record who agrees with me is Masha Tupitsyn and if you don't know her now you soon will for sure.
Cronenberg read Eric Packer as a self-destructive loser who gambled away all his billions in one day. Much of Foucauldian thinking is in the book particularly concerning the grid of power/knowledge/capital. Baudrillard enters when Packer, who is packed BTW with just about everything, implodes the cyber-currency market. Although Morton uses the term cyber-capital Cronenberg does not see the difference between cyber-capital speculation and capital attached to a product. Reading Cosmopolis through Ayn Rand is a reading lovers of Rand will be astonished at or will rave and froth at the mouth.
So Pattinson who had not done any serious film work of any substance before Cosmopolis and who did not really understand DeLillo's book - nobody else does either - obediently accepted Cronenberg's interpretation and direction.
In addition the group I saw it with in the theatre were college students were non plussed by it. One young man said he thought it was like the TV program where people were asked to read sentences in a foreign language that they did not understand. I thought that comment was as good as it was going to get. The characters spoke DeLillo's dialogue but had no idea what it meant except for some of Pattinson's delivery and Binoche and Morton. And this disconnect among the meaning from the director, the actors, and the audience ruined the film. Viewers just felt that words were being aimed at them that had no meaning. I have read it about 100 different ways so you can pick your reading of choice here: http://cosmopolisfilm2.blogspot.com
Pattinson who had not done any serious film work of any substance before Cosmopolis
One of Cronenberg's worst efforts. Awful screenplay and even worse acting. Pattinson and Giamatti were just terrible. Complete waste of DeLilo's novel.
shareWasn`t his to ruin.
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Did anyone else find the only actor who seemed to bring the dialogue to life was Samantha Morton?
None of the other actors seems to be able to overcome a sort of monotonous delivery of the lines which resulted in creating a really tedious film.
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The film is not ruined, so by definition no one ruined it. Pattinson was well cast, I felt, insofar as I can't think of another actor doing a significantly better job, and I was able to watch him in almost every frame without getting bored.
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I think someone like Vincent Piazza could have done a much better job than Pattinson. Pattinson seemed completely out of his depth and he has no charisma at all. He has the emotional impact of a State Farm commercial.
no charisma at all
No. Just because you can't see the charisma doesn't mean others can't. They can, in spades.
That's the whole reason Cronenberg says he cast Pattinson:
“You need to be fascinated enough to stay with him throughout the movie. Which is why you need a charismatic actor like Rob, who has a face you want to keep looking at.” ~David Cronenberg
Werner Herzog:
"PLAYBOY: For your next film "Queen of the Desert" you have "Twilight" - teen heartthrob Robert Pattinson cast.
Herzog: He came to me. Therefore, I am taken seriously in Hollywood. Because so many good actors want to work with me. Nicolas Cage was never better than in "Bad Lieutenant".
Playboy: What do you see in Robert Pattinson?
Herzog: He has charisma, he is smart, he writes. I hope we will see him one day as a director. '
People have different opinions. Pattinson got fantastic reviews for Cosmopolis, which is fresh on RT, so a majority of critics praised his performance. Same for The Rover and Water for Elephants. He's not going away.
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I've now seen Pattinson in Harry Potter 4, Twilight, Map to the Stars and Cosmopolis. Even in his most intense scenes with Mia Wasikowska in Map to the Stars, he doesn't exhibit the acting abilities or charisma of the male leads in any of Cronenberg's recent films ala Viggo Mortensen, Michael Fassbender, Vincent Cassel, etc. That said, I'm certainly open to seeing Pattinson in an Oscar-worthy role. Some who are more invested in the film might call his role in measured restraint and part of a brilliant casting decision by Cronenberg. Apart from Team Edward, if there are more objective people in the industry who see his charisma in spades, I'm sure Robert will be up for an Oscar soon, vindicating your faith, no?
As someone who has seen most of Cronenberg's films, I was very excited to watch Cosmopolis, after an amazing stretch of thought-provoking Cronenberg films between A History of Violence, Eastern Promises and A Dangerous Method.
While the novel's fans probably went ape-sh*t over this film regardless of how good or bad it is, I wasn't a big fan of Cosmopolis' long-winded monologues and stream of consciousness-type dialogue. Apart from Samantha Morton and Paul Giamatti's scenes, most of the film is forgettable.
There was a similarly 80% talk/20% action type of film directed by Abel Ferrara called New Rose Hotel, based on William Gibson's short story. Willem Dafoe, Christopher Walken and Asia Argento. The reason why I felt that film worked was because it was, at its core, a story of seduction, betrayal and corporate espionage. Ultimately, the entire film left me feeling indifferent and unimpressed.
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Giomatti's always good.
I think Pattenson just gets too much guff from being in Twilight.
Can't stop the signal.