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Never seen so many people walk out!


I went to see Cosmopolis tonight. I should have stayed in and cut my toenails, or looked out of the window. I'm sure that would have been more interesting. More than half the cinema walked out. Admittedly there were only about 20 people to start with, but I counted barely half a dozen made it to the end. None of the walk outs were misguided teenagers coming along for the Pattinson ride; these were older cinema-goers obviously hoping for something a bit different from the usual multiplex-fodder.

Well, we got something different all right. Cosmopolis is truly awful. The dialogue is unbearably stagey, frequently incoherent, with characters lacking any convincing motivation for their bizarre actions. The sheer volume of dialogue wouldn't necessarily be such a bad thing if any of it actually carried some meaning. Brace yourself for nearly two hours of hot air & robotic performances which quickly grow tiring on the eyes & ears.

I haven't had this less fun since I watched Synecdoche New York! YMMV.

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Response to flirt44: "because it's an intellectual Movie and people forgot to listen and think, they are happy with junk. And your comment that Cosmpolis is awful tells me you will love Skanky Mikey . Nobody walked out when I watched it"

Here's a bit of advice. If you are going to get on your high-horse about this being an 'intellectual movie' you could at least begin your written response with a capital letter and end your statement with a full stop. Like this. Period.
There are also some problems with tense in your first sentence and capitalization of a common noun, but I'll let you work those out for yourself, Mr./Ms. 'Intellectual'.

In my experience plenty of movies position themselves as being 'intellectual' but that doesn't necessarily make them films worth watching. You shouldn't rate words per minute as a measure of brilliance.

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SLAM DUNK

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No, if you've never walked out of a movie it just means that you have good enough taste to choose your movie wisely. You don't go to see something you know you'll hate. For example, I've never seen an Adam Sandler movie, I know beforehand that I'd never make it through so I wouldn't waste my time or money.
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Excellent response

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No it's not. If you buy that he has never gone into a movie without being let down you're as stupid as his BS comment.

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Why are you confusing being "let down" with being so disgusted with a film that you have to walk out and waste the money you spent to see it? I've only walked out of one film in my entire life. I don't even remember the name of it, it was nearly a decade ago. I'm like the other poster, I generally read a little bit about a film before going into it. It's pretty easy to detect what will work for you and won't work for you once you have a little of the language in your bones. Do I get disappointed, absolutely, but I sit and finish and rate it five or six or whatever I feel it deserves. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised by something that originally disappointed me.

I know how to avoid anything that would be so horrifically boring and trite that I'd feel the need to walk out. You can just tell from the previews in many cases, how awful something is going to be.

Funny, but not everyone acts and thinks like you do.

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At the theater I go to, you can get your money back when you walk out of a movie early. It happens semi-regularly with all the headaches and motion sickness that 3D crapfests bring.

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That's true, though I wouldn't personally exercise that option if I were disappointed in the content of the film. That isn't the theatre's fault. If there is a technical problem (including 3D headaches, which I am sympathetic to), then that is one thing---it is returning any product that didn't work well for you. If you just picked the wrong movie though, it's kind of unfair to penalise the employees bringing it to you.

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In some ways I agree, but if the patron believes they purchased admission to an inferior product which should not be shown in the cinema, I see no problem in requesting a refund. The theater is under no obligation to provide a refund, but they often do in the interest of keeping their customers as frequenters of their establishment. It's just good business. The movie screens whether that person is in the room or not. It's like when people send back food they deem unsatisfactory at restaurants, except in the case of a movie screening, they don't have to throw anything out.

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I wouldn't personally exercise that option if I were disappointed in the content of the film


Why is art the only one not giving refunds for the service it gives?
You had a bad steak, you can ask for a refund. You bought an unbalanced chair, you can ask for a refund. You were not given the hand jb you asked for, you can ask for a refund... A few would question it.
But... buy a ticket to see a movie they sell to you (you see the movie because they use the story, tag line, poster, trailer, director, actor... and many many more things to convince you to see the film), feel cheated... and beep you.
It is true that art is a subjective thing, but... then, why is art a business? Why art as a business does not want to take the risks of the rest of the businesses?

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Oh, so now because something is in 3D.. it's a crapfest because you think it is unnecessary fluff? Speak for yourself man.

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Nice thread necro.

Personally, I think 3D is a slowly fading gimmick which is designed simply to allow for higher ticket prices, not for furthering film as an art form. Regardless, your reply makes no sense.

Right in your own comment you say "you think it is unnecessary fluff? Speak for yourself man.".

Who else would I be speaking for? I don't understand why people get upset about the opinion of someone else. If you want to go see 3D films and enjoy them, why does the opinion of someone like me (who you'll never ever meet) offend your sensibilities as a human being or stop you from enjoying them? Really though, why are you playing white knight on the part of 3D films? Especially in a thread about a film like Cosmopolis. Just relax. You're reading way too far into my comment.

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This comment made me laugh so hard.

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i must have been in a bad mood, that was kinda a-holish and unprovoked

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I agree ! And i can't stand the fact that people have to categorize everybody and everything like "if you're a real movie lover...." ! Love and peace.

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If you can't stand the fact that people have to categorize everybody and everything then you're not a real close-minded person.

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Cosmopolis was definitely different.

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@LaFemmeFlaneuse @phernalia_i @benshep88 I mostly liked Cosmopolis!

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Lol....twitter repeats don't help the outcome.

Most people did not like it.

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I'd say on the contrary: a real movie lover would inform himself before going to see a film. With all the internet facilities and all the info on the countless moviesites, I don't understand people going blank to theatre and decide there, out of the blue, which movie they'll see.
I'm not a real movie lover, but even I look up if a movie I want to see will be worth my money, because let's be honest: cinema tickets aren't cheap.

And apart from that, I find it unpolite,people leaving during a screening.
I've endured it during my first watch of Cosmopolis.
After 10 minutes (!!) the first left, after 20' another one, after 30' again. It takes away the focus of those who are interested in the movie. After a while I wanted to scream: "Sit the *beep* down, close your eyes, take a nap, but let people who actually like the movie, enjoy it!"
That's what I would do if I really didn't like a film, like a silly romcom or one of the countless brainless action movies but then again: I would never watch them in theatre in the first place.

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But I must say that sometimes walking into a film cold (no clues about it) can be exhilarating. Sure, it's a crap shoot, but boy howdy, do I ever remember going to see a Dustin Hoffman/Laurence Olivier film (just because they both were in it) knowing nothing about it. At first, it seemed to be a comedy of some sort. But you very quickly found out that Marathon Man was definitely NOT a comedy. Or how about walking cold into The Other (1972). Starts as an idyllic children's flick. Certainly doesn't end that way. Nowadays, however, it seems I know so much about films before I see them that I can often walk by a TV, look at one for a minute or so and then tell you what it is, even if I have never seen it. A lot of the surprise is gone.

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How boring. To go through life only exposing yourself to stuff you know you'll like isn't living.

Maybe a 'real movie lover' is the kind of person that goes in blind so as not to take in preconceived ideas and expectations.

Isn't it impolite to make a rubbish film and then expect people to pay for it?

Personally I find randomly picking music, film and books to be an enriching process.

Appreciating film is a little like drinking wine, if you're not careful the bull that surrounds the 'appreciation' will cloud the fact that the wine taste like ****.

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I know this. (movie quote :)

But a second viewing/tasting might tell you otherwise.
I'm going to give Cosmopolis another try, the first time didn't work for me...

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I don't know if I am the "he" you're referring to, but I walked into this movie with no idea of its plot. I knew its director and star.

I love how when people on imdb comment that they don't like a movie, and that movie is indie, it therefore is because they don't like/don't get "indie" movies.

Nope -- none of my favorite movies is a major studio movie, I don't enjoy action films, I tend to prefer the subtlety of European movies to their American counterparts (not all, by the way; there are plenty of good and original American movies) and my reading and food lists are a mix of the popular and the obscure. Try again if you want to be dismissive of criticism.

Oh, and what about me says "he," exactly? (Note I'm still not confirming or denying it. Just trying to pick at your biases a little.)

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If you leave within the first half hour you can get a refund.
Fact.

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Yes half an hour leaving means a refund here in Australia. I've never done it but I've heard that's the case. I like to stay for the popcorn, movie popcorn is the best 

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I like to watch most things blank. That way I have no expectations.

Like Prometheus, I saw the ad on TV, it was presented in a certain way from a certain perspective. I went to see it and it turned from finding the origins of mankind into an Alien prequel. I was pretty pissed off about that because on the TV ad there was absolutely no mention of it being related to Alien.

So before I watch things now I like to check IMDB for the taglines and cast so I can see who the hot chicks are and how long the film is.

The point I haven't made is I don't like to know what's going to happen in anything, be it TV show or Movie, because it spoils it for me. That's what I mean by watch things blank; blank doesn't mean completely ignorant. That's reserved for the midday movie on TV where you just watch it and if you like it fine, if not there's another one on an hour later.

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Have not seen this movie, but if you call yourself a movies lover because you walk out on a movie because you do not understand it or that you think its bad even when you have not finished watching it.
You are NOT a true movie lover.
As a movie lover I always give a good look at the movie, watch it compleatly.
THEN I say is it bad or worse. Or sometimes good or the best.
Because some movies have bad beginings and good endings, and the other way arround.
I look forward watching this movie soon, it looks interesting and diferent.
Sure I bet there are those Robert Pattison lovers who just come see the movie because he is acting in it, of course they will be disappointed because they are not seeing Edward on screen.

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If you've never walked out of a movie, you're not a real movie lover.
Do you have a problem with people who love fake movies?

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Walking out requires far too much effort. I sit there and sleep till the end.

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LOL!

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Haha, that's why you down a few beers at the cinema bar to ensure you can pass out if needed 💤

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So, you've read that book. Why is it so special and why are you posting it here?

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I liked the movie like anybody else who liked it, just didn't understand if some details were made on purpose by the director, or had some hidden meaning I missed.
Binoche way too old to be of any interest of the millionaire, who can have anybody he wants and besides is married to a much more beautiful and young woman (who doesn't want to have sex with him). Then the younger (than Binoche) but ugly prostitute? with the teaser gun. I guess he likes ugly women.

Then the prostate exam. Do you actually have to be completely naked for that? I thought dropping down the pants would suffice. Has he heard, with all his millions, of the new methods for prostate examination?

The movie is all right, considering the open ending... God! Now I am going to have to read the book!

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In the book, Didi French, the art dealer, is a lot older than Eric. Why wouldn't he be interested in her? Being much more experienced in sex than his young wife and being an expert in arts, she inspires him and teaches him about art.
The other woman wasn't a prostitute but one of his bodyguards. That's why she had a teaser gun. IMO she wasn't ugly at all, she gave him what he wanted, what his wife refused to give him.
Prostate exam: Eric was naked because he had his heart examined just before and I think he just didn't care to be naked in front of his financial director, he kind of liked to chock her. You know how this scene ended, so..
Prostate exams still happen with the finger method, when something's suspected than they'll use ultrasound.
In the book the ending is not open.
Enough stuff to read the book now?

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How sweet it is, your advice!

And how high my horse is!

I rarely, actually almost never, do this, but the comments and reviews are just too funny. Thanks to you and the rest of your sort (and David C.) for eliciting such confusion and anger: you may actually be feeling enough life to have a thought you didn't buy both frozen and canned.

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Well that clears the discussions of any doubts

In your view intellectual films aren't always worth watching

I mean dude this is a Cronenberg film based on a Don DeLillo novel - do your research, it wasn't going to be a mainstream movie for God's sake

And by the way understanding punctuation doesn't make you particularly intelligent or cultured - it pretty much makes you a valid typist, keep that in mind in your next reply about commas, periods and tenses

Have a nice day

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Where did you see the film?

My cousin, who's on a business trip in France, mentioned that some people walked out of French cinemas as well.

I haven't seen the film, though I'm anticipating it, so I don't really know what to make of it yet.

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People walked out in Ireland also, including me! What a bucket load of drivel... my idea... you cannot make a good film out of a very mediocre book! Fact!

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you cannot make a good film out of a very mediocre book! Fact!
Yes, you can. Some of the greatest movies ever made, such as Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho, were made from books that slumped below mediocrity.

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> ...you cannot make a good film out of a very mediocre book! Fact!

I take it you have never read Fight Club?

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Intellectual movie or not... this movie was pretty bad and I almost walked out - but I kept the faith waiting for something to happen - I really shouldn't have bothered... it felt over acted given it was so dialogue driven and it felt like I was at the theatre..

Two hours of my life I'm never getting back.

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And this is your first post on IMDb, opiate?

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I was also in France and my friends and I decided to see it as well. I'd say there were about 30 or so people in there and most of them were women and a few guys who were with their wives or girlfriends. By the time it ended there were 7 of us left (our group of 4 and 3 others). It was terrible and during different parts, people started laughing. I like all the actors in this movie and was looking forward to seeing it. Some of my friends plan to see it when it comes out and I tried to tell them to wait until it comes out on DVD.
Yes, sometimes a bad book or short story can become a great movie but this isn't one of those cases.

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Maybe those people thought they came to watch vampires love story?

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Perhaps as some feel those who work on Wall Street to be vampires anyway.

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I don't know about your country, but here in Spain tickets are about 8-10 €. Why would you pay such a ridiculous amount of money to leave before finishing the movie? It makes no sense, only people that paid nothing do that. Or people who don't value their money. Might as well just throw your bills into a toilet and flush.

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You should stay. My husband wanted to walk out after first ten minutes but did stay and later told me that the ending was mind-blowing and outstanding.


It reminds me our top-director's latest work in theater, "Onegin. Comments." There is a word - those who do stay in theater after first 20 minutes, they say it is the best performance for years.

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i didn't get it..what was it about anyway... it's maybe even worse than twilight 4
btw Robert is bad looking guy

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So, a typical Cronenberg film, huh? I know at Cannes he said he expected people to walk out and boo, he knows it's not mainstream.

The Independent just wrote this:
As for what Cosmopolis says about the current financial abyss, I’m not sure it’s that interested in pursuing the diagnoses of DeLillo’s book. What the film does explore, mesmerisingly, is the riddle of how to turn a book about a limo ride into an experience that is itself a ride – or rather a glide.

Such is the film’s out-and-out otherness that Robert Pattinson – who puts up a strong, wryly amused show as the savagely blank Eric – himself becomes a stylistic element among many. This is a surpassingly odd film that some will reject outright, but I was totally won over. Cosmopolis may, like Packer’s limo, be an elaborately conceived but essentially vacant vehicle – yet it has a master at the wheel.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/cosmopol is-david-cronenberg-105-mins-15-7856383.html

Both Cosmopolis trailers: http://ow.ly/1iTyiC
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He doesn't have to see the film. He'll hate it anyway.

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i was willing to see the OP as a totally valid response to what i am sure is a very difficult and problematic film (as im sure the makers of it were aware of and fully intended, much as they did with Crash and other "boring" experimental work with restrained artificial acting, that also prompted many walk outs)....until you threw in that diss to synecdoche ny at the end....a brilliant film!

then i realized that your criticism was actually an unintentional complement from my POV.

this all just makes me want to see Cosmopolis even more.

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Actually, I remember Synecdoche NY being better than this, but as far as I'm concerned they are both navel-gazing belly flops.

I'm sure you'll find something to enjoy in this though. Robert Pattinson did an admirable acting job (though he's had a lot of practice at playing the part of a pasty-faced character detached from humanity). Cosmopolis just left me cold. Regrettably there was nothing insightful about the dialogue. I felt like I was stuck in a sixth form philosophy club for nearly two hours.

As I say, YMMV.

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You're straight up trolling, you haven't even seen the movie.


I totally agree that anybody who hasn't seen a film and is trying to influence others against it is trolling ... which makes you a huge troll considering you tried to damage The Runaways box office by posting links to an online version under a thread entitled 'most overrated film of the year'. You also hadn't seen the film and are there fore a troll. Why get so angry at DC for following your lead?

Hypocrite!


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lol busted

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Not typical at all IMO, entire conversations in this movie will be hard to follow completely for some viewers and even make no sense whatsoever to others. His other movies that I have seen have dialogue that can be understood by anyone really. I'm used to reading the violence or sexual content that mainstream viewers are quick to dismiss his movies over, that's actually absent in this movie.

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I too was really disappointed, even more so than with A Dangerous Method. Here's my review . . .

David Cronenberg's long and distinguished career has taken many pleasing diversions - not least into meta-literary adaptation with Naked Lunch and pulpy crime violence with recent hits A History Of Violence and Eastern Promises - but even for his diehard devotees, last year's A Dangerous Method was something of a let-down. Purporting to probe the sexually charged relationship between Freud, Jung and their muse, the resulting film won art-house plaudits but proved too languid and impassive for many. On the surface (admittedly never something to be trusted with Cronenberg), Don DeLillo's wilting, wordy prose would seem a perfect fit for the Canadian auteur, so the scathing 2003 novel Cosmopolis could have been as darkly invigorating a venture as his Nineties take on JG Ballard's taboo-busting Crash. Coupled with a career-redefining central turn from Twilight pin-up Robert Pattinson, Cosmopolis should have been one of 2012's sure things; instead, it limps on to the screen with an audience-baiting single-mindedness.

Eric Packer is a 28-year-old multi-billionaire whose success has seen him become a target for anti-corporate protesters; he cruises NYC from his ivory (tower) limousine, occasionally receiving visits from self-deprecatingly promiscuous ladies, awestruck business associates and dutiful doctors for whom his entirely unnecessary daily prostrate check is merely another chore. On a mission for a haircut that might help him reconnect with his own humanity, something inside Eric snaps, and he finds himself adrift in the world he has created. Taking to the streets - perhaps on a search for his own soul - Eric finds his perspective challenged by everyone he comes across, leading him on a nihilistic quest to find some - any - kind of new feeling.

Don't be fooled by the judicious use of Drive-style neon and gleaming cinematography; despite the vaguely futuristic setting, everything about Cosmopolis is deliberately drab. Cronenberg has always been clinical but this latest work is like a slab of meat that the audience is expected to dissect. The problem is, it's all too clear that there's nothing new to be found beneath the skin. Much of the first half takes place inside Packer's eerily sound-proofed limousine, overtaken by pedestrians as it creeps down gridlocked streets; Cronenberg's rarely moving camera strives for claustrophobia but merely elicits boredom.

The threat to Packer's life is never developed into anything but a background nuisance, while his many encounters - mostly one-on-one with individuals who never appear again - quickly become routine, and make a poor substitute for a narrative. It's almost as if the film has been assembled from overlong deleted scenes, with little to nothing to tie them together; while this is obviously meant to reflect Packer's own existence, it makes for a thankless and tiresome viewing experience. There's no escaping the fact that Mary Harron's adaptation of American Psycho did all of this and more over ten years ago and managed to squeeze real humour and humanity (not to mention admirably controlled horror) out of the by-now cliched notion of yuppie ennui.

The majority of the run-time is taken up by people ranting about the state of the modern world in loosely connected statements that would have felt radical 20 years ago but are depressingly obvious by now. When the 'characters' make (often futile) attempts to have actual conversations, the script sparks into some kind of life, sardonic wit flashing through in their failure to connect. But Cronenberg's static direction could really do with a little more life about it; as Pattinson descends further into a mind-frazzling black hole, the audience could use some stimulus to convey his disintegrating state. Cosmopolis's second half covers alot of the same ground as A Scanner Darkly but a dose of something like Richard Linklater's immersive if indulgent visual aesthetic wouldn't have gone amiss, while the satire is spread so thin as to hardly be worth the wait when the script does sarcastically strive to raise an eventual titter.

Pattinson's scowly performance is perfect for the material, but as Packer's dark night of the soul reaches critical mass, he never quite seems disturbed enough to pull the viewer along on his journey. Even when his masochism turns deadly, Pattinson is an impressive rather than powerful presence, often put in the shade by his fleeting co-stars. Most of the film consists of ever-reliable thesps - from Juliette Binoche to Samantha Morton - pairing up with the young Brit to ruminate at length on topics that only one of them (usually Packer) understands, with the ignorant parties desperate to prove their worth to the unreachable, barely responsive bureaucrat. The theatrical staging proves a little more engaging when the tables are turned by the anarchic types of Mathieu Amalric and Paul Giamatti, with the friction between the opposing forces leading to some tersely amusing ruffling of feathers from the former and an intensely vengeful showdown with the latter.

There's plenty to chew on here but little flavour to savour; most of the minimally-soundtracked 'action' takes place in a series of vacuums, and will leave many viewers (especially Twi-hards) feeling frustrated and cheated, more so if they've been duped into watching by the ridiculously misleading trailer. While Pattinson is to be commended for taking on such an un-commercial vehicle - to which he definitely does no disservice - it all seems a bit too calculated, more posturing than penetrating. Likewise, for some of his long-time fans, it's saddening to see Cronenberg digging himself a hole of late with such critic-pleasing but crowd-bewildering tepidity; perhaps his perverse plans to remake his own remake of The Fly (a Cronenbergian gesture in itself) will see him return to former glories.

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The studio didn't like his plans for the remake of The Fly, so he won't be doing it.

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Hey! Drunken Cowboy! What are you doing here? Trashing a film you haven't seen again? I'm sorry, but Kristen Stewart won't *beep* you. She has a boyfriend, who you obviously hate with the flaming fury of a million suns. Why don't you hang out on her board for a while, instead of trashing her boyfriend's films, or making fun of his fans? Makes sense, right? That it, unless you're crazy.

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I think the (generally positive) Rotten Tomatoes rating is interesting because it demonstrates how film critics tend to part company with the general public when an allegedly 'great' director takes the helm and makes a sub-standard film. But even though the film gets a 'fresh' rating not all the reviews are fawning.

A case in point: Mark Kermode is a respectd UK film critic and a HUGE Cronenberg fan, yet his review of Cosmopolis is really very cautious indeed. If you watch his radio 5 review on youtube you'll see just how cagey he is. He can't bring himself to say it's a load of crap (this is the great Cronenberg, after all!), but he does a wonderful job of vaguely letting the listeners know it ain't his best work.

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Is that why he went through the trouble of having both on his show, in a limo, for a interview?? I think you are seeing too much into something here. I think he really liked it.

Edited: Nevermind. He did feel it was too cold. Sorry. I didn't see his review online. Just his interview with Pattinson and Cronenberg in that limo. I love Kermode, though. Really good reviewer who tries to be fair.

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I think the (generally positive) Rotten Tomatoes rating is interesting because it demonstrates how film critics tend to part company with the general public when an allegedly 'great' director takes the helm and makes a sub-standard film. But even though the film gets a 'fresh' rating not all the reviews are fawning.

A case in point: Mark Kermode is a respectd UK film critic and a HUGE Cronenberg fan, yet his review of Cosmopolis is really very cautious indeed. If you watch his radio 5 review on youtube you'll see just how cagey he is. He can't bring himself to say it's a load of crap (this is the great Cronenberg, after all!), but he does a wonderful job of vaguely letting the listeners know it ain't his best work


You sure nailed it there , there seems to be something about the book via the film that totally missed pinning the tail on this donkey & huge disconnect between these fawning reviewers with the box office which shows it going down in flames . What Denillo atempted , the premise was good & promising , its been done before though , far far better . I for one would eagerly await someone tackling this same dystopian information age technology/power finance warp disconnect but this was a terrible botched job for sure .

While in the real world of finance Facebook stock & the company has lost almost half its value since IPO last 3mos , over 42Bil and rightly so . People buying into hype & living their lives in a sea of hype , this is what the modern ape in the information age has become . There are pluses too , lets all find them together .



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I disagree with this. I think the critic should base his review on his viewing experience not on his perceived idea of what the general public would 'like'. If Kermode couldn't directly say he disliked the film, than, that is on Kermode. I personally want the critics to write honest opinions based on their experience seeing the film. It is up to me, the viewer, to determine whether I want to see the film or not. If I choose not to see a film than fine, but, IMHO, there is no place for my opinion of that film because I have not experienced it. I cannot say it is bad or good because that is some critic's opinion. There are reviewers I believe have the same view of film I do and I tend to read their reviews in that frame of mind, but, I do not limit myself to those or to reviews only when determining what I wish to see. If the public is unable to do that and is so dependent on reviews and review sites to determine what is 'good' and what is 'bad', than we are in a world of hurt. I have no interest in seeing the critics bend their viewpoint to match that of the general public's viewing habits. When that occurs, film as art disappears and we are left with hollow, mindless fluff pieces that stay with you only as long as you are in the theater. No thanks.

ETA: Also, based on your supposition that reviewers are not being critical of the film out of respect for Cronenberg, I, who thoroughly enjoyed the film, could say the critics who wrote negative reviews only did so out of an inherant dislike of Cronenberg. Either way, it is a weak argument.

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ETA: Also, based on your supposition that reviewers are not being critical of the film out of respect for Cronenberg, I, who thoroughly enjoyed the film, could say the critics who wrote negative reviews only did so out of an inherant dislike of Cronenberg. Either way, it is a weak argument."


I think you need a reality check about professional film reviewers. They write for an audience. If you think they are dispassionate, good honest people offering balanced judgements you are being naive. I've no doubt that some reviewers might give Cronenberg a bad rating just because they hate Cronenberg, just like there are critics who hate Jerry Bruckheimer movies. But they all have an agenda. Sometimes their agenda is not to look too foolish amongst their peers, or their audience.



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Even if it is as incoherent as Synecdoche, I would not think of walking out on it.

So what if many left the theater. Atleast half of the world suffers from a restless leg syndrome.

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So what if many left the theater. Atleast half of the world suffers from a restless leg syndrome.


That's probably the funniest thing I've read about this! Hilarious.

Pisces Love Sheep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF47GDdt87w

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Mass walkout in my screening also, though not as much as 'Tree Of Life'!

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When i saw Tree of Life last summer, maybe 30 percent of the audience walked out. I was shocked on how many people hated it.

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It's not going to please everyone, but the it just opened in Australia, and the critics there seem to like it:

4 stars from Empire, who called it “slick, contemporary…with the aura of science fiction”.

8/10 from SMH, who said “it’s a thoughtful essay on a man fighting for meaning within his hollow surrounds, riveting, poetic and thoroughly Cronenberg”

… and another 4 stars from Movie Fix highlighting there is no better place right now to see a crest-fallen Robert Pattinson

Cosmopolis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwehC_EuN-k
http://ow.ly/1iTyiC

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ShotGunsCritic also gave it a rave review: 9/10 or 8/10, not sure anymore but he really understood the movie.

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