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Smoking in the trailer - I'm not going to watch this movie


I am so passionately offended by smoking in movies that three shots of Zach smoking during the trailer was the deciding factor in me NOT watching this movie.

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That's got to be one of the dumbest reasons for not watching a movie. People smoke in real life whether or not you like it. This just reflects reality.

Extreme violence or brutality deters me from films, but if the film is intelligently made and the violence is in context then I'll see it.

You're condemning a film before you even give it a chance.







"And all the pieces matter"

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Amen. My mouth actually dropped open at the ludicrousness of that statement. Guess you better really like Disney movies...

"Nolite te bastardes carborundorum" - Don't let the bastards grind you down

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If smoking offends him, I don't think that Disney movies would be such a good idea with all of the sexual references and all...

But, seriously, smoking offends you? Really? How do you even live?


If someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back!

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Then that means the majority of movies must be off limits to you since smoking is so common and a reality in life. I hate smoking but it doesn't bother me on screen.

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And then what about old movies? You would miss some of the best movies ever! Bette Davis and Paul Henreid in "Now, Voyager" makes this non-smoker want to smoke every time! They are awesome!

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what the hell? wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. people are crazy.

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The OP is an obvious attention seeking troll.


Roger: "Oh God, I got a bear claw in my ass!"

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I thought I already ran into the most prudish person subscribed here at IMDB but somehow this was not the case b/c you beat the previous prude by a mile!

Do you not realize that many of the hospitals, quick-med centers, highly successful and most modernized specialty centers along with most businesses in the United States and abroad were built and updated to what they are today and continue even now, were paid for and kept going by tobacco money, illegal alcohol in the form of moonshine, and even recreational drug money would not exist today?

Ever hear of the level I trauma center, hospital with adult and specialized pediatric cancer treatment centers, eye center associated with the above alluded to hospital with the level I trauma center, and many other wings including the HIV/AIDs wing, women's center, pediatric center (including standard pediatric care, highly acclaimed NICU department, & specialty pediatric departments), dialysis center, and basically everything that is in place and has since the inception of this place including the adjoining medical school along with other high-end departments of the university known as Duke University Medical Center & each of the specialties and others that are too numerous to list here, along with the college itself: Duke University where some of the best, damn-near 'miracle-worker' physicians and surgeons attended the university as well as attending the resident program at DUMC and later worked at DUMC within one of the specialty departments including the level I trauma center produces these physicians, surgeons, and other physicians in equally as important specialties along with the Medical Center with the level I trauma center that brings in the worse of the worst cases via Life-Flight (a helicopter that is primarily tied to DUMC) within a 50+ mile radius and these level I trauma physicians who specialize in saving the lives of patients who would otherwise die if sent to other hospital emergency rooms, and these medical professionals who graduate from Duke University's Medical Program with an even higher recruitment by hospitals across the country and the globe when the medical students undergo their residency at DUMC?

DUMC is one of the top 2 medical centers, multiple medical specialty programs built onto the hospital itself, along with the level I trauma centers on the East Coast! The other hospital that ranks in the top position of top hospitals on the East Cost is Johns Hopkins Hospital and many of the Duke-educated physicians, esp when it comes to those attached to or received their residency at DUMC are employed at Johns Hopkins Hospital in addition to the other top hospitals in this country!

Again, Duke University Medical Center in addition to the level I trauma center, cancer & specialized pediatric cancer wings, cardiology & CCC-ICU department, NICU department, and many others including a top-notch eye center where the top pilots in the country that are attached to Seymour Johnson AFB (Air Force Base) and many others who require specialized services that are generally associated with detached retinas from the extreme g-forces that comes with the job as a fighter pilot & in most cases, as they have an extremely high success rate - save the sight of the "cream of the crop" fighter pilots in our Air Force program!

FYI: Some 27-28 years ago my husband began experiencing sight loss to the point where he was unable to walk around without walking into obstacles not to mention leaving him to the point where he was unable to drive because he was unable to see. His local ophthalmologist referred him to Duke Eye Center where one of the top surgeons in the field confirmed his local ophthalmologist's diagnosis of diabetic retinopathy. This is a condition most type I (juvenile) and type II (adult-onset) diabetics will experience at some point in their lives; many diabetics who suffer from diabetic retinopathy lose their sight as the condition advances without warning until it is too late and they go completely blind; hwr, there are others who manage to remain on a health insurance plan until they are kicked off, which happens in some 99.99999% of these diabetics lose their health insurance coverage and those who don't, have "riders" put on the policies along with having the premiums go up 100x or more what it cost prior to the condition and the deductible goes up with it. The "Rider" is a block the health insurance companies put in place where they can 'legally' though I don't understand how it's illegal to pay such outrageous premiums and such high deductibles and it be legal, especially when you need to go to the doctor for a cold, the flu, an ingrown toe nail, a broken bone or fractured bone, or even to the dentist but no matter how minor and no matter how far removed from the diabetic condition, the health insurance company will make up lies in order to prevent paying any medical bill or prescription by claiming it's "diabetic-related" when anyone with half a brain or even a micron of commonsense knows it's total bull *beep* but they do it and get away with it! This is but one of many reasons as to why the USA needs National Health Insurance with no denials for pre-existing conditions, particularly when a medical visit has nothing to do whatsoever with the pre-existing condition!!! But I digress...

While my husband was at DUMC's Eye Center, he happened to have one of the surgeons who took an interest in his case while waiting on the military to bring in an Air Force pilot with detached retinas in which he was going to re-attach surgically and if all went well, the pilot would be back in the pilot seat of his fighter jet within a matter of months after the surgeon gave him the "green light" when the condition was taken care of and his sight was back to normal along with proof the retina re-attachment was completely healed.

This surgeon was so great in his field that when another surgeon felt there was a questionable outcome with regards to my husband's sight, the surgeon there at the behest of the Air Force made it clear he was going to save this young man's sight and he did! The only after effects that were likely to occur with regards to the surgery was cataracts but it would be many years before this was going to be an issue and the surgeon was right again! It's been some 27 or so years since he underwent the laser surgery that cauterized the bleeding vessels that were bursting from pressure in his retinas due to the diabetes and as of about 2-3 weeks ago at a routine eye exam to check on the cataracts, his ophthalmologist said it was time to have them removed, which requires surgery to take them out but also the insertion of a lens into the eyes, which I am not exactly sure as to the why but I do trust the ophthalmology specialist who handles cases like this one said that once the cataracts were removed, he would insert the lens then close the minute opening and within a matter of weeks he would be completely healed where he will be able to go back to lifting things only he can't lift more than some 20-25lbs because he suffered two massive heart attacks, a stroke, and a quadruple heart bypass that left him on a heart-lung bypass machine and intubated (tube down his throat where he wasn't able to talk or eat, or even take sips of water although I could rub ice chips over his lips to keep them moist and apply a type of lip balm to further aid and prevent the dryness of his lips. He was in the CCC-ICU for a bit over 2 months before he was able to come home. Even then, he has had a major shift in his diabetes b/c of the damage to his heart that left him with a 20% loss of heart function that prevents his extremities from receiving enough oxygenated blood to flow through his body and to his extremities. It is so bad that he requires some 8 to 15 insulin injections each day and this is 2 separate types of insulin with one of the two types of insulin requiring 2 syringes b/c the dose is so high and if it needs increasing another 3 units, he will be receiving the injections by way of 3 syringes of the one insulin and single injections of the other only those injections must be given 8/10 to 15 times each day including having his fingers pricked 15 times a day if not more, in order to test his blood sugar glucose levels in order to adjust his insulin dosages based on a sliding scale to prevent him from experiencing hypoglycemia and/or hyperglycemia - both of which can put him into a diabetic coma and with the diabetic coma, there is always the risk of death. The ophthalmology specialist who will be performing his out-patient surgery b/c he wants a cardio-thoracic surgeon on stand-by due to the severe damage to his heart, is a Duke University graduate of the medical program and did his residency at DUMC before settling into the advanced program of being a surgeon in the field of ophthalmology...

The entire DUMC & each of the specialty off-shoots, equipment, and university were all paid for and continue to receive endowments from Big Tobacco!

So, the next time you decide to put your foot so far down your throat you leave teeth marks as high up as your thighs, think about Duke University and the hospital and all the specialty programs including level I trauma, the latter of which I worked as a medical transcriptionist in as my primary account for over a decade so I can tell you from 1st-hand experience by way of working in that department and hearing those miracles performed in addition to being at the hospital and in the level I trauma center as a patient, with friends who were patients, and even family as patients and friends of my oldest daughter who have been in that hospital including one who passed away from an accidental gunshot wound to the head - and believe me when I say that it was sheer providence, kismet, fate, or even destiny that of all nights I was to be working but wasn't working, I was thankful because each MT who transcribes medical reports cannot share personally identifiable information as we sign a confidentiality agreement prior to employment or rather as a part of the paperwork in order to become an MT with any national company or working for any specific doctor who doesn't use a service but rather outsources the work to an MT directly and I have had work such as that when several doctors in the area where I live needed someone to fill in to pick up overflow and/or work while their regular MT was out on maternity leave or family leave. But most importantly, I am thankful I had not worked that night before b/c by law and by my own morality and scruples, I would have been unable to prepare our oldest daughter if I had worked and if I did work that night, the odds I would have had that report were in the neighborhood of 99.9999999% I'd have caught that case. I knew this child & her parents b/c she spent many nights at our home with just the two of them (our oldest daughter & her best friend) and in a group where we had 4 to several or so young girls staying overnight or over the weekend. I don't think my heart would have been able to have handled the reports I'd have had if I had not changed my mind and called in to take that night off, which was never a problem since I worked nights anyhow along with weekend nights, and holiday nights. In addition to level I trauma, my backup accounts were autopsies, death summaries, and some operative reports but level I trauma and death summaries kept me pretty busy although the two were not mutually exclusive.

Many who came to the level I trauma center survived thanks to the high level of education and practicing experience along with equipment of the personnel including the doctors, nurses, orderlies, and other staff members including the MTs, editors, and others with the MT companies like the national company I worked for so again, you really need to think twice before shoving that foot so far down the throat you get teeth marks on your thigh b/c tobacco money is responsible for a lot of good things in this country; there are bad things along with the good but the good, such as DUMC and Duke University college along with all the specialty programs are the good side of tobacco money!

Enough said on the subject of tobacco money put to good use... Although just for your information, the only reason I am no longer in medical transcription after such an amazing run in a career I enjoyed and was able to dedicate my career choice to for well over a decade is due to being diagnosed initially with nerve damage to the ulnar nerve of my right arm. I have so much scar tissue on the nerve but even with a small amount, we are not at a point in medicine to remove scar tissue from working nerves as tiny as the ulnar and/or medial nerves and I had ulnar nerve damage that ultimately caused the loss of sensation in my latter three fingers of the right hand along with loss of grip strength that was inoperable. Next, the subsequent visits and pain I was suffering was not totally caused by nerve damage so a panel of tests used to diagnose autoimmune diseases were run b/c in addition to being approx 3/4 Cherokee and a little more than 1/4 Arapaho Indian along with the fact that there is a high number of family members in each generation of my family who have various types of autoimmune diseases and they tend to run within the Native American Indian, Asian, and Black ethnic groups, I was 2 for 2 and at the approximate age when symptoms would begin to develop and sure enough, I was diagnosed with 3 types that were already in the moderate to severe stages. Not quite a year ago, I was diagnosed with a 4th autoimmune disease.

The chronic pain, visual problems, retinal damage, corneal inflammation, chronically severe dry eye syndrome, joint disease, brittle bones, etc... left me no choice except to resign. My supervisor and her superiors each called to let me know that if a cure was ever found and surgery ever become a probability, all I needed to do was pick up the phone and my former job was all mine without question. The reason for such an open and undated option of return is b/c the entrance exam in order to even have a shot at possibly getting a job offer rest entirely on the entrance exam, which is a series of some of the most difficult dictations an MT will likely hear and prior to me, my supervisor and her superior and his superior had never had anyone pass the entrance exam with a score of 100% and certainly not a passing score of a minimum of 85% when the prospective MT was fresh out of MT school (I attended 1 of the top 2 MT schools in the country and the only 2 where national MT companies will only consider offering the entrance exam but with no promise or anything else relating to a job offer...). On top of everything else, I was already blind with only a minute amount of light perception remaining when I took the 12-month class (more or less time was allowed as long as the student was progressing although the maximum amount of time allowed to graduate was 15 months). I graduated 2 months ahead of schedule with a 4.0 GPA and was receiving offers to take entrance exams left and right before I chose the company I worked with for over 10yrs. Something about the company made it feel as if it was going to be a good fit and b/c of my 100% score on the entrance exam, I had my choice of accounts and hospitals, clinics, and specialties I wanted and I chose level I trauma. The cases were all different and I learned something new practically each night I worked. I already knew a lot about medicine anyhow considering you can't throw a pebble in my family (DH's & many of my own family) without hitting someone practicing medicine in varying careers including our oldest daughter who is a CNA II, phlebotomist, and a med tech. She is also working on her graduate degree now at my alma mater. DH's mom is a retired LPN, both brothers wives went to nursing school & one of the wives recently retired. He has a cousin who is an MD who works with the Doctors without Borders program, an uncle who is a PA (physician assistant) & former paramedic along with his wife b4 their lives were turned upside down when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. I am actually undergoing biopsies for the same myself. I hope it continues to be benign. The oldest sibling of my birth father was a nurse practitioner and the Chief of Nursing for the OB nursery & the NICU. She had to go into forced retirement b/c of her health (spinal damage w/bulging discs and inoperable due to the extent of damage) and with her age, she passed away some 5-7 years ago. My birth mother is a med tech. A few cousins are RNs with 2 working toward their nurse practitioner certification and another who is considering medical school to become a doctor... Holiday gatherings are rather amazing b/c no matter what we do or where we meet, we end up talking "shop" before the night ends. LOL! (minus any identifying information so we aren't breaking any confidentiality rules)

I hope this has given you the obvious medical and tobacco connection you seem to be oblivious to and educated you properly on their connection as well as other connections. Also, anyone who refuses to watch a movie b/c of smoking in the movie is lacking more than a few brain cells b/c it is more than a slight bit ignorant. Might want to get your own CT scan or MRI next week b/c it sounds like you need it and can use it...

Oh, and put some Neosporin on those bite marks...

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TL;DR

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Kudos to anyone in the world who read that novel all the way through. I read the first paragraph and was confused as to the relevancy so I thought I would skim to find out and it just kept going on. That was without a doubt the longest post I've ever seen on imdb.

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I sure as hell didn't read it. It might have tomorrow's winning Powerball numbers in there, but I'll never know.

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