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Butt hurt DC fans will be obliterated when Captain Marvel, Avengers 4 and Spiderman blow this movie out of the water


I'll provide the kleenex

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Hate to break it to ya...Spiderman and Captain Marvel will NOT make more than this. Only Avengers 4 will.

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And here I thought you said you were a fan of Marvel.

So sad.

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Ha, ha, ha... Only Queen himself thinks someone here believed him about such a big lie.

Well that makes Queen the first one.

QueenFanUSA = 1

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I am a fan of Marvel but I'm being realistic here!

Spiderman and Captain Marvel will not make more than Aquaman.

Do you actually think they will?

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Realistic? Not with your views on the DCEU you’re not.

Don’t be disingenuous....own your DC Zealot status. Unless even YOU know being a fan of the dumpster fire is embarrassing....

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I am a fan of Marvel but I'm being realistic here!

Spiderman and Captain Marvel will not make more than Aquaman.

Do you actually think they will?
I've said all along that I thought Aquaman would probably gross over $1 Billion. I merely asked YOU to apply some information and or reference as to why Aquaman would. Otherwise you were just WISHING and HOPING and not predicting.

It is your taunts that define you as Anti-Marvel and Anti-Disney and not really a fan of Marvel and or a reliable chronicler of Marvel's financial or critical successes.

You waste nary a minute to deride Marvel/Disney and send up Universal or Warner or any other studio you deem to be on the rise or "Hot". You constantly predict Marvel is sliding down and every other film is beating, besting, hotter, exceeding or some other Queen made up marketing attribute over Marvel/Disney.

Without fail you'll drag out Financials, Directors, early WOM, etc, etc to tout some other Studio and taunt Marvel and of course your foil, nemesis, ruthless QueenFanUsa criticizer the mustache twirling BillBrown.

Your petty, vindictive, duplicitous, hypocritical, double-speak posts aren't even vaguely positive about anything Marvel/Disney. Just drop the act.

You'll traipse from any and every Marvel or Disney movie in a vain attempt to find any movie to deride for failing compared to a Universal or Warner movie in an attempt to make Marvel or Disney look bad.

That's some serious bias you've got driving your need to post Anti-Marvel and Anti-Disney posts so piously.

Whether or not Aquaman does better than Spiderman and/or Captain Marvel is meaningless to me as the movies don't compete with Aquaman. Comparatively Aquaman is #6 domestic for the DCEU and #3 WW for the DCEU. That probably means something for the future of the DCEU but matters not at all for the MCU.

Do you think otherwise?

The only real impact the relative financial success Aquaman has over the MCU is that Namor the Sub-Mariner will be seen as a copycat and a Atlantean-Come-Lately to the general public. To Marvel fans Aquaman is a marker for how much Namor will have to over perform to now stand out within the MCU.

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Ahhh yes...my "ruthless criticizer" billbrown.

Where is he?

That's right...he's in hiding!

LOL

Just in the last two weeks he doubled down in such an embarrassing way on both Mary Poppins and Ralph Breaks the Internet that makes one think the guy is starting to lose it.

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The most "ruthless" thing about bill Brown as of late has been a ruthless pursuit of unfathomable stupidity.

I warned him to start thinking for himself and not rely on box office.com but sadly he took their predictions and attempted to "taunt" yours truly with them. Two days before Mary Poppins opened he reminded me that it was predicted to soundly beat Aquaman. I laughed in his face and told him I don't care what box office.com says...use whatever little brain you have I told him.

He " taunted" me when Ralph opened saying it beat Grinch's opening...except...it didn't. It was 11 million less!

Is that not ODD?

He claims that Aquaman's break-even point is 750 million because of it's 200 million dollar budget and marketing expense
And yet, with a budget just 25 million less(175 million), Ralph will make "a LARGE PROFIT".

After 6 weeks Ralph is at 350 million worldwide.

Speaking of 350 million...lol...that's the prediction box office.com made for Mary Poppins domestically. When I LAUGHED IN BILL'S FACE that he actually believed that was going to happen he said "It's Christmas you gigantic idiot!".

Yes it is, bill, and thanks for the gift.

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Have you actually watched aquaman just out of interest ?

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Yes, I have. It was pretty good but not great. I actually enjoyed Mary Poppins Returns quite a bit more, tbh.

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That's what's important here, not box office

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Oh...thank you so much for directing me to what I need to post about!

Happy New Year!

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Oh that's fucking rich, and I suppose if A Marvel movie was doing well at that the box office you wouldn't have anything to say....just out of curiosity, have even seen Aquman yet or are even going to?
if not then your opinion here isn't even worth shit.

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I have seen aquaman it's good, I ain't running around with my hands in the air like the rest of the dceu stans saying it's a masterpiece, better than MOS and bvs so improvements there. My issues are with people like the OP and dceu nutjobs that think it's the only cbm ever to cross a billion

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So in summary all of this pointing out Marvel's and Disney's up and downs versus Universal and Warner is all about you and BillBrown attempting to one-up each other.

There must be a lot of ******** tension there between you two.

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Nope.

I like to discuss box office and call them as I see them. Sometimes I get it wrong and. I freely admit that.

I am a fan of Disney and their numerous studios but they spend a fortune on almost every stinking film which creates many perilous situations financially.

They have to hit it out of the park every time in order to make a profit. I have pointed out that WB and Uni are much more diversified and have numerous low-to-mid budget hits every year...including animation where Universal's Illumination is the most profitable animation studio going right now. I think their stuff is garbage but there is no denying they have been outflanking Disney at almost every turn these last few years.

For some strange reason, billbrown has hounded me from almost day one, so yeah...after a while I've started to return fire. Believe me...he gives me an abundance of easy, irresistible targets on a routine basis.

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We'll see...and you'll be here crying and making excuses when they do.

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Both will be biggest flop of 2019
,#Mcusucks

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you only think it sucks because its a bigger franchise than DCEU, you are basically jelous of its success and the attention it gets.

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They are for now, but nothing is forever.

This current MCU phase is wrapping up while DC Films appears to be ramping up big time.

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They are for now, but nothing is forever.

This current MCU phase is wrapping up while DC Films appears to be ramping up big time.
What leads you to believe that Marvel/Disney's current "success" phase is wrapping up?

Or do you just mean that Marvel's defined Phases of movies are wrapping up?

Warner's strategy and or plans for the DCEU have been woefully unsuccessful both reception wise and financially. Is it your opinion that the Fate of the DCEU is now on the ascendancy? How so?

Wonder Woman and Aquaman have been well received no doubt but do those two films and characters now represent the future direction of the DCEU? Is the DCEU and the characters joined at the hip in tone, humor, narrative and quality of stories?

How is it ramping up "Big Time"?

Marvel has a wildly anticipated next era of films being built around Cosmic events, the X-Men, The FF and a streaming service that will provide lots and lots of content. Where is the wrapping up? Or do you mean like the final wrapping up of presents for their growing fan base?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Wrapping up ? You sure about that ? You sure it ain't evolving into phase 4 which will no doubt introduce xmen......when that happens ......boom....it begins ....again

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Probably. The Man Child Universe is primarily made for children and manchildren. This is naturally the bigger demographic going to theaters. DC with their usually more mature filmmaking will never have such a reach.

Thus, it makes little sense to compare numbers. Btw adult people do not define their self-worth by the box office results of superhero movies. Only manchildren without a life and career do.

Thus your post is as revealing as its pathetic.

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DC with their usually more dull film making will never have such a reach.


fify

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MCU is more violent than DCEU movies, they are also rated the same so im not sure why you think DCEU is more mature ???? MCU is watched by various age ranges, and the reason they sell more tickets is due to the fact that there movies are more entertaining than DCEU movies , DCEU has enough fans to make the same BO numbers, its just on 2 out of 6 movies are actually any good.

MCU fanbase has grown since Iron Man 2008, DC has had its characters established for many many years, MCU has evolved, DCEU has regressed but could be turning the corner.

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Dance off, you big turd blossom! Lol, The DC movies are way more mature and for a way grown up fanbase, at least intelligence age wise.

MCU with it's kiddy movies has nothing compared to TDK or Watchmen or even WW. The warehouse fight scene in BvS alone is the best fight since TPM dual of the fates. And real, not CGI heroes clobber porn-ing and crying "you should not have killed my mommy" like Ironman and that idiotic poser in GotG.

In fact DC fans are typically fat middle-aged virgins with anger issues, like Star Wars fans...or like you Furious. Shame that you still sniff raccoon turd movies and get sensitive nipples about them.

Grow some man-balls already, or I have to shoot that ball sack of a chin right out of your face one day (and will cry bitterly).

Love, Tristan

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Some edgy shit right there in that post Tristan, i do hope you are ok.

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I'd actually be surprised if Captain Marvel makes it past Justice League. The trailers are just boring.

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Agreed. People may see it just to be fully caught up with the Avengers storyline. I think that release date setup helped Black Panther as well.

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There actually seems to be more buzz and chatter surrounding Shazam! than Captain Marvel.

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LOL...uh, maybe, but not the good kind.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (1219) 3 hours ago
There actually seems to be more buzz and chatter surrounding Shazam! than Captain Marvel.


…. And yet you say you are a fan of Marvel.

Are you calling it like you see it and do you have "Facts" to back up this chatter and buzz objectively?

Sounds like you are projecting a Shazam! blitzkrieg and a Captain Marvel "meh"?

And if the reverse happens your fallback will be that Marvel/Disney overspent to drive a better return and therefore is a less financially effective studio pairing.

But yet there is this:

In 2009, Disney paid $4 billion to acquire Marvel. Less than 10 years later, in 2018, Marvel movies accounted for more than half of Disney's $7.3 billion box office haul.

I'd say that was a good investment, wouldn't you? Disney likes to brag that it's the only studio in Hollywood history to have made more than $7 billion at the box office in one year. Could 2019's lineup have the juice to push into $8 billion territory?
But how can that be possible when as you say they have so many failures and you are predicting that CM will be an underperformer?

And then there is this:

***Global box office revenue for 2018 hit an all-time high of $41.7 billion, thanks to a hefty uptick of nearly 7 percent at the North American box office.
Domestic revenue came in at a record $11.9 billion, eclipsing the milestone set in 2016 ($11.4 billion) by 4 percent, Comscore announced Wednesday. Year-over-year, revenue was up 6.7 percent over the $11.1 billion collected in 2017.
In terms of the number of people going to the movies in 2018, attendance in North America is expected to be up 4 to 5 percent. An official statistic won't be available until the average ticket price for the fourth quarter is tallied.
Foreign box office revenue was $29.8 billion, a 1 percent uptick over 2017 ($29.5 billion). Part of the reason for the relatively static result is fluctuating currency exchange rates.
Globally, revenue was up 2.6 percent over 2017, when combined worldwide ticket sales landed at a then-record $40.6 billion.

This year marks one of the few times in recent memory that North America drove the growth spurt.

Disney, which is on the verge of acquiring 20th Century Fox, commanded more than 26 percent of domestic marketshare, and 17 percent of marketshare at the worldwide box office. Revenue from Disney releases hit a combined $7.3 billion globally, the second-biggest showing in history for any Hollywood studio behind the record $7.6 billion amassed by Disney in 2016.
Overall, a well-received crop of tentpoles and other event pics appealing to a diverse audience helped to fuel the boom. Top earners were Avengers: Infinity War ($2.048 billion) and Black Panther ($1.346 billion) — both from Disney/Marvel — Universal's Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom ($1.304 billion) Disney/Pixar's Incredibles 2 ($1.242 billion) and Sony's Venom ($855.2 million). Warner Bros.' Aquaman, hitting theaters in late December, will ultimately overtake Venom after earning $822.9 as of Jan 1. 2019.
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Now you can continue pointing out the Trees but Disney/Marvel is a Forest of revenue with saplings that will continue to deliver revenue.

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I dont think you can question that Aquaman has been a big hit. Am pleased for DC to finally get something right, it does highlight how horribly they got it wrong with Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League. Zack Snyders vision was all wrong. Pop in some likeable leads, a brighter colour palete and some well placed humour and boom, you have a movie that people go to see.

Avengers 4 will comfortably beat Aquaman at the box office, probably going close to 1.6b worldwide, Spiderman will be lucky to hit 850m, probably nearer 750m. Captain Marvel is a tough one to call, I really think it depends upon word of mouth. The trailers have been pretty weak, I reckon 950m if good, 750m if not so good, and if bad it could impact heavily on Avengers 4 box office numbers.

I do think we are getting close to superhero saturation, in particular Marvel movies may struggle to relight interest once the likes of Robert Downey, Chris Evans and Thanos leave the franchise.



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Captain Marvel is not going to blow anything out of the water, least of all Aquaman. I'm a huge Marvelhead and the trailers for CM are dull. Not to mention, the lead actress is pretty much a sour person and doesn't seem to even want to be in the movie. It will make money but no where near what Aquaman is making.

Now, Avengers 4 and Spider-man should be great. I just don't want people to lump in Captain Marvel with those movies as being worthy of praise.

I've no faith that CM will be good. It will make money but in the $500-600 million range. Not a lot of fans will like it.

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I have no doubt that CM will be profitable. Will it be a $1 Billion dollar movie right out of the gate? No, probably not.

Did the first trailer and TV spot achieve what they were supposed to do, which was introduce the movie to an unaware audience? It did for me.

I think Brie is a wonderful actress and I think Marvel is asking her to do exactly what Marvel asked Chadwick to do in BP's first outing and Chris Evans was asked to do in CA:TFA. Each actor and character are portrayed as more serious characters and aren't asked to be snarky funny ala RDJ.

Loki outshone Thor, Killmonger came off more charismatic than BP and Hulk was reduced to a side-kick. Each was asked to carry a movie (not the hulk) and not be the key character.

Some thought BP/Boseman was dull in his own movie I just chalked it up to him having to show the persona as a King which few in the audiences related to his struggle as King and or King-To-Be.

Brie is supposed to be an enigma because I believe even she as portrayed doesn't know who she is and the sandbox she is given to play in is a bit more serious than GoTG.

We'll all have to wait for the movie but too many people are projecting way too hard based on a clip.

Captain America/Steve Rogers in the First Avenger was very difficult to pull off and look where that character is now.

He also didn't smile a lot. :-)

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I didn't mention Smilegate, which I thought (and posted on this site) was a silly talking point.

The trailers just haven't excited and it seems there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen on this movie (2 directors, a lot of script rewrites, etc.) but I'll still go see it and give an honest opinion.

I hope the finally product is good but Larson needs to try and at least make herself somewhat likable to fans. The snapshot from Twitter of her drinking wine, wearing sunglasses and holding the purse with the name BRIE on it, with the post "R.I.P. Stan Lee" was a horrendous PR mistake.

Just saying.

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There is 'SmileGate' and '40 yr old White Male Gate' and 'SJW-Gate' being attached to Brie and CM that fuels so much of the Not-Feeling CM for many but glad to see those aren't your concerns that allegedly dull your excitement.

I hadn't seen the CM Special Look when I responded and it appears that Marvel addressed the 'Smile-Gate' and Wooden detractors in stride. I don't think Marvel/Disney put that Special Look out there to counter those but it works regardless of the timing and intent.

I'm not going to pre-judge the movie based on the number of writers, directors and or the script re-writes because Marvel/Disney has a studio system and a production system that so far has worked and has been refined on the fly for their betterment.

Take BP as an example. Coogler called in DuVernay to assist after Ava walked away. To me DuVernay added her voice to lifting up the female aspect of BP making, again in my opinion, the Dore Milaje nd all of the female aspects of BP front and center. Ava was still with Disney (WIT) and has since accepted a principle gig on a Warner/DC project, The New Gods. Wonder why?

The rap on Marvel was that it was too studio controlled and blunted the 'Vision' of the writers, producers and Directors as artists. Oh well.....

Marvel has yet to produce a true dud and have consistently stayed in their highly productive lane. They have also done an excellent job of casting. All this is behind the scenes of the movie and the trailer but for me to see the trailers so differently. I've bought in to the Marvel program and don't really NEED trailers to excite or tell me anything.

I'm sold on the Brand and I guess you could say I like their Kool-Aid.

Bottom line is there appears to be way too much focus on Brie Larson for reasons that have little to do with acting. People saw what they wanted to see in that now removed photo. Also, the articles that responded to her tribute used selected quotes/tweets from twitter. Tell me there wasn't an agenda there?

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What has kept the MCU on track is their vision, as laid out by Kevin Feige. As long as Disney doesn't interfere (as they did with Iron Man 3), then the MCU's future will be sound. I worry that Kevin might be swayed by some of the SJW culture that's infected properties like Star Wars. It's a reason to be concerned. I won't push a panic button unless Feige allows such a thing to happen. They just need to keep politics and religion out of the MCU. Their movie have brought all types of people together and it's good to see at a time when so many are at each other's throats. They have been able to do that by staying out of the political/social messages act.

As for Larson, I thought the whole "smiling" brouhaha was nothing burger but the "40 year old white male" comment was insulting and stupid. 40 year old white males are the primary comic book and comic book movie consumer. To say something like that made her look kind of petty and foolish. Maybe she's better than that and I sure hope so.

Like I said, I'll go see the movie and be first up to heap praise on Larson, if she does a good job.

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Disclaimer: I'm neither attacking you nor defending Brie. I'm looking to have an objective conversation about a topic that appears to be very much in dispute as to who said what and why.

Here is your statement:
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As for Larson, I thought the whole "smiling" brouhaha was nothing burger but the "40 year old white male" comment was insulting and stupid. 40 year old white males are the primary comic book and comic book movie consumer. To say something like that made her look kind of petty and foolish. Maybe she's better than that and I sure hope so.
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Brie's quote and statement was about inclusion of voices in many areas of Hollywood especially for women of color. Especially when media made for and directed by women of color are marginalized and or not reviewed by critics of that same group. Why do only 40 year old white males predominately review movies that may or may not be written for them, about them or not including them almost exclusively?

Here is Brie's quote:

“Am I saying I hate white dudes?” asked the Oscar-winning “Room” actress, a question that she’d repeat twice more during her speech. She answered with a sneer, “No, I’m not … [but if] you make the movie that is a love letter to women of color, there is an insanely low chance a woman of color will have a chance to see your movie and review your movie.”

Larson continued, “[Audiences] are not allowed enough chances to read public discourse on these films by the people that the films were made for. I do not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about ‘[A] Wrinkle in Time.’ It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial.”
Nothing in her quote has anything to do with the comicbook industry per se. Her comment was made in refernce to those self-entitled 40-year old critics who disparage a movie or media product if they can't relate to the subject matter or character.

But if you take Wonder Woman reviews I do believe some fan critiques bordered on sexist and or decried an SJW agenda but the predominant number of critics (again mostly white males) did not give or take away points based on those two alleged issues.

Just saying....

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Disclaimer: I don't take anything you posted in response to my post as an attack. I appreciate the insight. These are the kinds of conversations I like having. We should have these conversations and I respect your point of view.

To keep perspective, I didn't state her "40 year old white dude" comment was based on a comic book movie, I stated that it was insulting and stupid. I know she was talking about critics for A Wrinkle In Time [which bombed] but making that statement when the primary dollar demographic for comic book movies is the 40 something white males (and white females, I might add), is not bright when you're supposedly the star of an upcoming comic book movie. It made her look bad.
Also in her continuing statement you framed about "[Audiences] are not allowed enough chances to read public discourse on these films by the people that the films were made for..." is perplexing. According to her logic, there has to be a conversation first about a movie and ONLY the people she feels it was made for can have that conversation? That's like saying that white/latino/asian people can't have an opinion on movies like Blade, Coming to America or Black Panther because of their color. It's a stupid statement and even on RT, the critics were a lot kinder than the public who went to see A Wrinkle In Time (42% critical vs 28% audience).

The whole argument about "diversity" is kind of a sham, at least in my opinion. The MCU has strong female characters that are awesome. Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Gamora, Nebula, Okoye, Hela.. these are all kick ass characters. They are loved because of who they are as individuals, not due to their gender or ethnicity.

As for Wonder Woman, I love it! The only person I remember making "sexist" comments about WW was director James Cameron, who has a bad habit of foot-in-mouth disease when it comes to comic book movies.

Just saying on that too. :)

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I don't understand the connection between Brie's statement, her stance and 40-year old something white males (and white females you might add - which is also surprising of an addition). Those two demographics weren't actually the audience for Wrinkle In Time and I'd pre-suppose 40-Year old something White Males had any interest in the book either. Not that they shouldn't have had interest but it doesn't seem many bought it, read it or even ever wished it were a movie.

Brie didn't even take to task 40-year old white males nor 40 something white males and female comic book readers for commenting on AWIT. It for me is a stretch to see how those two groups would be offended and or take offense. The audience she was speaking to connected with the comment as well as to her suggestions for remedies:

The Annenberg report noted that the national demographic breakdown for the aforementioned groups is 30/30/20/20. Larson advocated for more diversity among reporters and photographers assigned to red carpets and junkets, and a forthcoming, unnamed tool that will help studios find critics from minority groups.
In addition, she announced that the Sundance Institute has pledged to give at least 20 percent of their top-tier press passes at next year’s Sundance Film Festival to underrepresented groups. The Toronto Film Festival is eyeing a similar goal for this September, she said.

“It really sucks that reviews matter,” she conceded. “Good reviews out of festivals give small, independent films a fighting chance to be bought and seen, good reviews help films gross money, good reviews slingshot films into awards contenders, a good review can change you life — it changed mine.”
Now you might suggest from her statements that she is abdicating for ONLY good reviews for people of color focused or minority focused or LGBT focused entertainment but she clearly is seeking more inclusion so that the reviews have balanced reviews that provide a diverse feedback that these types of films can build on. More--

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According to her logic, there has to be a conversation first about a movie and ONLY the people she feels it was made for can have that conversation? That's like saying that white/latino/asian people can't have an opinion on movies like Blade, Coming to America or Black Panther because of their color. It's a stupid statement and even on RT, the critics were a lot kinder than the public who went to see A Wrinkle In Time (42% critical vs 28% audience).

The whole argument about "diversity" is kind of a sham, at least in my opinion. The MCU has strong female characters that are awesome. Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Gamora, Nebula, Okoye, Hela.. these are all kick ass characters. They are loved because of who they are as individuals, not due to their gender or ethnicity.
Brie was politicking for INCLUSION not exclusion and nowhere did she say that only certain groups could review, critique or have an opinion on certain movies. She was speaking to a monopoly on or an over reliance on the POV's of the predominant group in a diverse society that already exists.

If you're making Yamaka's for Jewish men who wear them why would you only seek reviews from Buddhist Monks who (in this obscene example) have been traditionally critiquing religious fashion wear? You might want to hear from that young urban Jewish male who might want to chime in who just happened to start a line of Jewish-Futurism religious clothing. Just saying...

Brie's statements are being co-opted by groups into situations these groups have a clear agenda which has assumed her statements are promoting an expanded presence of unwarranted, unneeded and objectionable SJW sentiments that supposedly dilute quality, create division and change established norms.

It is interesting to me when I see the push-back and re-interpretation of what Brie stated to a group. Even her suggestions have no impact on the group she was talking about. 40-Year old white males aren't being excluded but would be competing with more voices. Or maybe better stated audiences would have a more diverse set of reviews to ponder over to assist in their selection and understanding of certain media.

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(Slow clap)
. . .well said. That is all.

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I most humbly appreciate that recognition.

Seriously, thank you!

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Man quit starting shit! Only idiots take sides when it comes to DC/Marvel, yet they STILL watch the one they "hate" then talk shit! YOU people need to hold your nose and close your mouth!

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ROTFLMFAO at you saying that Captain Marvel and Spiderman will make more than this!

Thanks for the laugh!

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if Captain Marvel gets great reviews it has potential to make similar numbers to Aquaman

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Well...the OP said it will make "more" than Aquaman and I notice you aren't willing to o that far.

I don't know if excellent reviews from critics will be enough, either. Critics usually love Disney Animation and Pixar animation and aren't so Cray about Universal/Illumination and yet guess who usually wins at the box office(especially domestically).

The global Aquaman numbers are flat off the table, sorry. If the stars align *just right* it could have a shot at getting near Aquaman's DOMESTIC numbers but even there I would be absolutely shocked if it did.

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Well...the OP said it will make "more" than Aquaman and I notice you aren't willing to go that far.

I don't know if excellent reviews from critics will be enough, either. Critics usually love Disney Animation and Pixar animation and aren't so crazy about Universal/Illumination and yet guess who usually wins at the box office(especially domestically).

The global Aquaman numbers are flat off the table, sorry. If the stars align *just right* it could have a shot at getting near Aquaman's DOMESTIC numbers but even there I would be absolutely shocked if it did.

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Correction:

Even worse...the OP says that Captain Marvel will "blow (Aquaman) out of the water" so that means Captain Marvel is going to make 1.4-1.5 billion? That would constitute a blowing out of the water right?

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I disagree. Aquaman is doing VERY well. Captain Marvel will do WELL, but not like this.

Which is okay. WB needed this since most of their other output is crap championed by the dull-witted.

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