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Will bomb at the box office


And be rated 35 on RT

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That would be a first for James Wan.

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Dead Silence Says HELLO!


no but seriously I love Wan...He is the sole reason I have any hope for this movie at this point...

Wan is a fantastic director...and IMO he has established himself as the KING on the Horror/Ghost Genre...

His 2 Conjuring Movies, 2 Insidious movies and SAW 1 are all Incredible

and even though I thought Furious 7s Plot and story was absolutely ridiculous and awful...Wans Style and directing made me enjoy the film...

I actually think WB will respect Wan, let him make his own movie, and most importantly I dont think WB will interfere in Post production...

I think Aquaman Will be pretty much Wan's film, and if that happens, I have confidence Wan will absolutely do the best with what he has...I dont know what the script was for Aquaman, Aquaman is the last DCEU film Snyder was heavily involved With, which is certainly SCARY...If I truly believed Snyder had no part in Aquaman, I'd be 100% sold Wan Will KILL IT...

But Jenkins was able to make a good film with Wonder Woman despite Snyder being involved in the film...So I think Wan can too...

If by some chance Wan doesnt do good...If Aquaman is bad, Gets Bad reviews....IMO it Will get very UGLY Box office Wise

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should be shelved until Hulu or CBS online express show considerable interest

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You think it will bomb or you want it to bomb? Theres a big difference between both.

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He can have both!

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I will take both...looks like DC didnt get the memo that their cinematic universe has been rejected by audience..they seem to keep making this garbage

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i think it will bomb big time, around 400 million I predict

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I always laugh when people predict a movie will bomb 8 months before it's release.

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don't laugh, I can assure you it will not make good dollar

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It's main competition will be Mary Poppins Returns. LOL. Yes, I'm sure it will drown(pun intended) in the face of that over the holidays.

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Id actually say that's a much more popular movie than aquaman.

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It's main competition will be Mary Poppins Returns. LOL. Yes, I'm sure it will drown(pun intended) in the face of that over the holidays.

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thats actually STEEP competition...

Disneys Live Action Fairtales remakes are 1 of the 4 hottest Franchises going right now...

if Mary Poppins Returns. is good....you can easily expect a 500 to 750 M dollar WW gross(Maybe more)

but lets be honest....the ONLY real competition for Aquaman is WB...

Wan has proven himself to be a great director....if WB has learned from its past mistakes of wildly interfering in Post Productions of its DCEU films, from Editing the hell out of BvS to get in down to 2 and half hours for a theatrical cut that resulted in pure Disaster where audiences had no clue what the villains motives were, had horrible pacing...which then resulted in WB literally having to release an entirely different cut of the film on Blu Ray just to try and save face so audiences could finally understand what the hell was going....To then WB desperately trying to change The TONE of an already completed Movie in post production with Suicide Squad...

WB straight up went in to panic mode after BvSs reception was awful...hired a completely new company to come in and make a different cut of Suicide Squad in an attempt to lighten the tone and had HUMOR...this resulted again in straight Disaster, with every critic pointing out horrible pacing problems, contradicting Tones, and clear and Obvious scenes Edited out...once again WB released a different cut of Blu Ray to try and save face.

then we get to WBs Finest Hour...in Justice League...based on all reports, WB wanted to fire Snyder after BvS, but simply couldnt because JL was only 2 weeks from starting production when BvS came out...Instead they were forced to let Snyder go forward, WB did try to limit the damage Snyder could do though, Notably they DEMOTED him immediately after BvS(brought on Berg and Johns to run the DCEU branch) and then took an entire JL film away from Snyder forcing him to make JL into 1 film instead of the already announced 2 parter that already had release dates

It was also reported WB had a "come to Jesus" talk with Snyder before starting production where Snyder Assured them JL would be completely different from BvS in Tone...

WB even sent one of the head execs down to literally watch over Snyder shoulder at all time while filming the movie...

but there was one massive problem....Zack Snyder....

Snyder was still the director....which resulted in Snyder Literally making no changes, once again making a film drained of all Color,Humor,and Light...once again Snyder gave them a film where The Heroes went against thier comic book history, where Superman was supposed to be evil, where Cyborgs characters was supposed to die but before dying be a tortured, joyless character, and an ark where apparently Batman was supposed to die too, oh and once again a plot was way to complicated involving something that most hardcore comics fans dont even know or understand, Let alone the general public(that plot was The "Anti-Life Equation")....this resulted in Snyder delivering WB a first cut that WB deemed "Unwatchable"...which then resulted in WB literally Firing Snyder

bottom line, there is simply no possible explanation or reason for Snyder keeping his job after BvS...yes I agree WB did the right thing firing Snyder midway through JL, But the only happened because WB made the ULTIMATE awful decision of not firing Snyder after BvS...

this finally lead to us to WB 2nd worst decision, (#1 clearly is not firing Snyder the day after BvSs opening)

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#2, clearly has to be Picking The worst possible replacement director for JL

choosing Joss Whedon is The Ultimate WB move, its the perfect example to show just how clueless they are with their DCEU....on the surface it somewhat makes sense, Hes the director on 2 Avengers films and A Comic book guy...but the facts are, There could not be 2 different directors in terms on Tones and Styles of directors than Snyder and Whedon...Snyders JL was again a Joyless , depressing film drained of all color, humor and happiness, Whedons JL would have been the exact opposite, You cant mix these 2..it results in an incoherent mess that has the audience at all times noticing Pacing problems, Tones changes, and Wondering why one scene feels completely different than the other

but mostly, the choice of Whedon just proves how WB once again, even after 5 DCEU films still had no plan at all...they didnt want Snyders JL, but didnt have a plan of their own, they decide lets just coping Marvel Studios, hell lets go get Whedon, He'll know what to do...

WB literally just picked a director they thought could do everything, that could watch Snyders cut, and immediately start rewriting and fixing all the problems they had no clue how to fix...

reports even state, the only guideline Whedon was given was it had to be under 2 hours and had to make the nov. 17th release date...Nothing else...WB had no plan, no ideas, nothing, Just hey try to make this light and funny like The Avengers...

of course this all resulted once again in Disaster...with Justice League being a universally hated and mocked film and a HUGE FLOP...

obviously I went on a massive Anti-WB rant here...

but the point is....If WB has learned anything from their 5 years reign of terror and failure with the DCEU films, if they learned anything from Wonder Woman about getting the right director and letting that director make thier film...

I think Aquaman Will at the very least be A GOOD to Great film...

Wan is a fantastic director, If WB lets him make his movie, IMO it will be good....I'm not entirely surely how successful it will be yet...

I think the DCEU has lost a HUGE portion of its audiences, Aquaman did not have a break out role in JL, JL itself isnt going to bring in any audiences to see the film....The DCEU film are a consistent downward trajectory in terms on box office(wonder Woman being the lone exception, but we can chalk that up to A Cultural Impact, like BP, WW clearly over performed because of its importance to women)...

I think Aquaman is going to basically not only have to stand on its own but FIGHT against the previous DCEU films and their receptions...I dont think the film is going to open very high, maybe between 60 to 80 M....But if Wan KILLS it and its great, could end up really having legs and being a hit...

If its bad, or just average...I think were looking at a real struggle, making less than JL...

the real competition here is WB....can they let Wan do his work....can they stop themselves from Dooming another DCEU film

but because I hate you queen...wanna make a bet...I'll bet right now DISNEYS Mary Poppins returns, pretty easily Beats WBs Aquaman...

Right Now I'll say MPR makes between 600 to 750 M

and Aquaman makes between 450 to 600 M

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I always laugh when people predict a movie will bomb 8 months before it's release.

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Yet you have no problem doing it yourself!

think before trolling queen ...Make sure whatever you say doesnt also APPLY to you....

you do remember your constant claims and troll thread predicting SOLO to Flop as early as DECEMBER right....

thats 5 months...

were you Laughing at yourself when you made these predictions?


I always laugh when people predict a movie will bomb 8 months before it's release.

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this is just an incredibly stupid statement for you to make, It basically CRIPPLES YOU...

You know how much you love to troll on Star Wars films...You know how much your going to want to claim Star Wars 9 is going to flop/come up short in the next years or so...

You love, LOVE to push this desperate Star Wars is on a downward Trajectory trolling tactic you've came up with ...you know you are gonna want to constantly claim Star Wars 9 might flop because of the fan backlash over the next year...But now because of this statement, Because of you being awful at trolling and not thinking before saying it....You've just giving me an ACE card to throw at you every time you try to hate on star wars or the next year...

lol congrats on being just awful at trolling queen...

I now get to destroy you with YOUR OWN Words every single time you try to troll on Star Wars for the next year or so....

I can see it now, someone claims Star Ways 9 is gonna open over to 200 M.....queen you reply with, "No way this movie isnt getting close to 200 M, Its going to have a huge decrease in box office from other SW films, Disney going to be very disappointed"

Old Bill Brown Sweep in with...."Queen dont you think its odd to predict a film to flop or disappoint this far away, I mean a lot could happen in the next 2 years to get hype HUGE again, I think you would agree queen right, remember YOU said "I always laugh when people predict a movie will bomb 8 months before it's release".....why are you now predicting Star Wars 9 to disappoint over a year away....seems very hypocritically of you!

lol Thank YOU queen....

I always enjoy ABUSING you...but I must say, I get the most joy from ABUSING you with you own words...

Like I love when I get to ABUSE with your failed "SOLO needs to make 800 M" thread...nothing makes me happier than when you say something and I can point out "wait, even in your own words It Flopped"

remember when you tried to claim Pirates 5 barely made a profit...but I then Destroyed you by using your OWN SOLO thread to prove, Based on YOUR OWN scale, Pirates 5 had to make a HUGE profit...

and of course I know you cant forget, how I constantly use your SOLO thread to prove even based on your own scale JUSTICE LEAGUE is a flop....you spent 4 months defending that movie and in the end it was YOU who accidentally proved it was a flop...

anyways thanks for giving yet another ACE card !


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WB straight up has their head up their ass. The sad thing is Blade Runner 2049 was actually amazing and it flopped. It is heartbreaking because that is a movie they did homework on and hired a very talented director for. Sad thing is this is one of the few times WB did something right and unfortunately people did not show up to support it.

As far as the DCU goes it seriously is a gigantic joke at this point. Wonder Woman is the only good film out of that entire batch. Man of Steel, Batman V Superman Dawn of Justice, Suicide Squad and Justice League were terrible. That is 1/5 ouch! It all started off on the wrong foot. WB had the one size fits all mentality. Oh dark, realistic, gritty and dreary worked for Batman therefore it will work for Superman right?

Well the thing is that is not in any way shape or form Superman's character. Batman is a brooding, dark and gritty hero. Making him realistic takes away Batman's fantasy element but it does not betray the character because Batman is just a human therefore it isn't that much of a stretch. By doing that to Superman you literally make him a different character. I said from the beginning Snyder is not the guy to handle a Superman film. What of his work showcases he would do Superman any justice?

See with Christopher Nolan you had Memento and Insomnia for reference points. Those are very psychological dark movies with a lot of detective work in them. What is Batman called the world's greatest detective, therefore it worked wonders for the Nolan trilogy. Look at Denis Villeneuve with Blade Runner 2049. What does a Blade Runner film require? It requires, subtlety, strong visuals and deep metaphorical atmosphere that makes you ponder and analyze. So what did we have to reference well um Arrival. Yet again then it worked wonders for Blade Runner 2049 a crowning achievement. My favorite film of 2017.

At this point it is time to bury the DCU and not do it again for a while again. It makes me so pissed off. Batman is right back in the gutter again after Nolan did all that work to build it back up. When I first saw the title Batman v Superman was announced I was like oh dear. The reason being is because we have had enough Batman lately. I say that and I am a huge Batman fan. Saturation kills excitement for me.

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I always laugh when people predict a movie will bomb 8 months before it's release.


That's your entire gimmick.

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Fucks of mcu fan aquaman would gross nearly 2 billon on box office dceu is back
wonder woman 2 birds of prey nightwing justice league 2 dceu would put marvel out of business in 2019.

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Year in year out the same shit , justice league will gross a billion , bvs will make 2 billion , wonder woman will make a billion , dceu has peaked, came out with it's heavy hitters from the word go , dceu will never compete with marvel, infinity war says hello

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No.. Nope.... No I am not gonna let you spin me sir, we're in a no spin zone so le NO!

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wonder woman 2 birds of prey nightwing justice league 2 dceu would put marvel out of business in 2019.

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I remember when BvS was announced in 2013, then In 2014 when the slate of DCEU films were announced

DC fans went on the biggest trolling rampage in internet history predicting "Now that The DCEU films are announced and coming all upcoming MCU films will flop because Audiences knows DCEU films are coming"

DC fans predicted WB and The DCEU would be dominated the genre by 2016 and The MCU would be shut down from Cap 2,GOTG, Ant-Man AOU, Civil War and Doctor Strange All flopping...

DC fans also Guaranteed BvS would easily out gross Avengers to be the highest CBM ever....then Justice League Part 1 would easily make 2 Billion...(remember at this time, Justice League was a 2 parter, This was before Snyder shit the bed with BvS and WB lost all confidence in him and forced him to make JL into just 1 film)

I also remember when DC fans went on a 3 months rampage guaranteeing Marvel Studios would have to Move Captain America 3 when WB decided to Move BvS to May 6th 2016 and go head to head against Marvel Studios....DC fans spent 3 months claiming no Marvel film could compete against a Film with Batman and Superman...

lol the of course ended with DC fans beaten and broken, when WB pulled the biggest pussy move in Hollywood history and decided to run away from a release date war they started and move BvS...

this left DC fans in a 24 hour desperation, but soon DC claimed "WB were Genius's, and claimed the ONLY thing that matters is BOX OFFICE, and BvS will now KILL Civil War because BvS Will have 6 weeks of no competition while Civil War has the bad release date in the crowded summer"

lol of course this also ended with DC BROKEN when Civil War destroyed BvS in every way possible at the box office

Next DC fans had to watch While Another DCEU film went directly against a MCU film and Lost...this time DCs biggest possible film Went against a MCU solo film....annnnnnd Thor 3 MURDERED Justice League in every Possible Way .....I mean that literally....Theres not one way JL beat Thor 3....

also worth noting....Wonder Woman against against BOTH GOTG2 and Homecoming and LOST..both Outgrossing Wonder Woman...

lol not only do DC fans have to watch DCEU films be complete disasters but they Literally have the HORROR of watching them go directly against MCU films in competition and LOSE...

and Just so were clear about 2019 and Marvel Studios being out of Business....you realize , The MCUs upcoming slate is...

Ant-Man 2-700 Million+
Captain Marvel---500 to 800 MILLION+
Avengers 4-----1.5 to 2 BILLION+
Spider-Man 2----800 to 1 BILLION+
GOTG3----850 MILLION to 1 BILLION+
Black Panther 2----1 BILLION+
Doctor Strange 2----700 Million +

lol thats just between now and 2021....

after 2021 comes Marvel Studios introducing The rebooted Fantastic Four and X-Men into the MCU and A New wave of Avengers films headlined by Black Panther, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Star Lord, Captain Marvel and Others...

basically, you got another 10 years + of watching The MCU films dominate.

But hey look on the brightside...your now on your 4th set of Bosses running the DCEU Branch, Your now on your 3rd set on "Tone Changes" after 4 out of the 5 DCEU films were HATED.....at some point somebodys got to get it right?...maybe this new guy Walter H. will...I mean it cant get any worse right?

lol it cant get any worse than JUSTICE LEAGUE opening below 100 Million and Making a pathetic 658 M right? It cant get any worse than WB LOSING 60 Million on a JL film right?

things have to start going up right?

the question is can you be happy with that....can you be happy with Things just getting better?

the DCEU isnt going to compete with The MCU for at least 10 years....the damage is done, you've lost too much of an audience with 4 out 5 awful films....but things can get better, If WB makes 3 or 4 Good to Great DCEU films and starts gaining trust back...little by litbox office should get better and Maybe in 10 years ....Batman MIGHT be a billion dollar characters again(Batman was a proven Billion dollar character in Back to Back films before Snyder got a hold of him...now Hes damaged and cant even make 660 Million)

its been a disastrous 10 years stretch for DC fans, and the last 2 have been the hardest, it one thing watching MCU films succeed year after year, that had to been hard for you guys...but theres something worse, YOU guys were given FALSE HOPE.....You thought in 2014 when The DCEU slate was announced you finally had HOPE coming....instead IT ONLY added to your suffering, the only thing worse than watch Marvel Studios succeed, Is also watching the DCEU fail at the exact same time...You literally went from Bad to worse....

its probably gonna be not much better for the next 5 years, The MCU films are going to Murder the DCEU films, But maybe little by little in MIGHT get better and Maybe in 10 or so years you might be able to compete...

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I don't think Spider man 2, Black Panther 2, and GOTG3 would make that much. Half of that probably, yes. They're the weakest characters in MCU universe

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I don't think Spider man 2, Black Panther 2, and GOTG3 would make that much. Half of that probably, yes. They're the weakest characters in MCU universe

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lol

literally chuckled out loud

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it'll either be huge (but not WW huge) and do something like 600-700m (ww)

or get Solo'd and be lucky to reach 350m ww

im going with gettin Solo'd

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Aquaman is the worst superhero in both Marvel and DB universe why the hell would they invest in someone so trivial? Would love to see Flash but different from comics.

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Yup , mary poppins and bumblebee will kill it

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Maybe people will go to see Khal Drogo finally cross the narrow sea

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