"So apparently you can get your entire body tattooed in one night without even one of the tatts looking like it was new, without having to cover them, without being in pain, and without getting an infection from them not being covered."
agree, they forgot to put the 1-3 month later label that should have shown on screen, this would have explained the lack of a funeral scene as well.
"So apparently an FBI agent deep undercover has no problem having unprotected sex with the newest member of a large crime family when there is absolutely no indication that she has to do so to protect her cover or the operation."
disagree, the casual sex thing, women want it at times to, and she had already had a feeling that he was a cop, not a thug, plays into some peoples mind of who they'll be with.
"And apparently she isn't afraid to blow her cover and reveal the intricacies of the entire operation without even knowing this guys angle yet. And she keeps a DNA test kit on her at all times...just in case shes *beep* a stranger who is really an ex-cop."
disagree with the first part, after dna results came back she felt she had to protect her case and work together with the other "undercover cop" that she thought was there, as would be the norm. and she explained that she was getting samples and identifying all the members in the gang. the part i agree is absurd is she just finished having sex with the guy, she wouldn't risk getting caught with a swap in his mouth, when she could just swap somewhere else to get his dna.
"So apparently a gang member can recognize a fellow gang member talking to a cop, yet he won't recognize that same cop a few days later."
could also play into a time stamp was meant to be there to indicate time had passed and that guy could have been killed or sent elsewhere, gotta open your mind up when watching a movie some.
"Um what happened to the funeral? I mean this cop was soo vengeful but there was no funeral scene. No mention of it. No grave, nothing...weird eh?"
already explained this.
"So apparently a skinny cop can fight huge thugs and gang members without so much as getting hit even once. And this same cop can take direct punches to the ribs without one breaking. AND 4 street thugs who have hand guns will fight you one at a time instead of pulling their weapon and shooting you. When they do pull their weapon they will walk right up to you instead of shooting you from a sfae distance."
split on this one, skinny doesn't matter about beating them, but he'd be more beat up. but yes thugs generally aren't the smartest, most skilled people there are in the world, but being that the skinny cop was more of a state trooper, having the skills he has isn't likely without an explanation, so yeah there's a gap there that should have been filled. but even thugs aren't gonna go for a gun first and have the guy just chilling on the car a chance to go for his gun and kill them, when the other guy was clearing coming in with fists, not all gang members want to pull a trigger and go to jail, something you need to look at before claiming something is far fetched, and by the time they're at hand to hand range, and you see the way he's taking them apart you're forced to assume he's had some kind of advanced training, so he'd be able to disarm someone that pulled a weapon, again, would have been nice if they mentioned that, but it's a movie not a step by step documentary.
"So apparently a pregnant girl who is pretty far along can survive a major car wreck without being knocked unconscious or needing immediate medical attention."
@ the 1:11 mark, haven't got to this yet, but depending on the "major car wreck", airbags, doubt she'd be knocked unconscious, and unless if physical pain or bleeding, it's possible she wouldn't need immediate medical attention, although most would probably seek it out in fear of loosing the baby.
"So apparently if you're on a motorcycle chasing a car, the car driver won't think to just ram you and knock you over and leave you as road rash."
@1:11 completely agree here, but this is a mistake always made even in mainline hollywood, gigantic budget, a-list stars movies, so i think i'll have to give them a pass on that, with it's a movie.
"So apparently if a gangster is trying to shoot you off the roof of the car he is only going to shoot once every few seconds at the edges instead of firing rapidly multiple times at every part of the roof (including the middle of it)."
basically the same comment as before.
"So apparently a cops brother who has sold drugs and murdered people (self admittedly) is exempt from all punishment as long as he's trying to get out. Nobody solved his murder cases because he is still free, but his own murder just HAS to be solved."
it's his brother, yes he wants the case solved, anyone who wouldn't is just cold.
"So apparently the girl who is pregnant with your baby brothers child and has your mothers ring is deserving of redemption. It's ok that she smokes ciggs and does drugs and tricks while pregnant only days to weeks after your brother was killed. It's ok that she never offered any info on the killers when she knew who they were. Was she scared for herself and the baby? Not at all...not if shes still drugging while pregnant. She still deserves to be magically taken away from the horrible existence that she got herself into."
you must not have any children or nieces or nephews, gotta understand the mindset to understand things.
"So apparently a new gang member can rise through the ranks and become a "general" within a matter of weeks. He never even actually killed anyone to get his colors. He just beat up a few insignificant low lives. He never even brought money or drugs or hookers to the table. Ok so they thought he was from a different set. Maybe a few phone calls could have straightened that out. But they were just soo happy with his performance..."
agree, being able to rip through people the way he was, someone from where he was supposedly from would have known someone like that, when no one knew him, could have brought up and interesting angle, and yeah, still feel like this movie needed a few time stamps saying some time had passed, there wasn't anything obvious shown to let you know time had passed if the intention was for the audience to just pick that up on there own.
"So apparently this movie is ridiculous. You've been advised, rent at your own risk for stupidity."
disagree, i had just finished watching Witchville(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1506458/combined) with Luke Goss in it, so my expectations were low after watching another of his movies, but this was an awesome movie by that ones standard, not an a-list movie and Val, Vinnie, and 50-cent are really more cameos then stars, slightly more then cameo i guess, but not stars. Vinnie Jones needs a new agent i think, as i said this movie was alright, but the movie Cross(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046245/combined) was difficult to finish watching. all in all, if you're running out of stuff to watch it's a good pick up, my main beef is the swapping the mouth instead of saying it was gotten another way or hinting at it...
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mic7440
13 years ago
Thanks for the reply however I have to say:
1) The FBI agent was very deep undercover and on the verge of a major bust. I think she would have put that ahead of any sexual urges she had. Sure she may have suspected he was a cop but he was not in on the program. He didn't go through the proper channels...in fact he wasn't even a cop anymore at that time. Still she didn't know if was really undercover or if he was really a gang member at this time. So I cannot accept that explanation.
2) An agent does not blow their cover...ever. Not to anybody. It jeopardizes the case, their safety, and the safety of their fellow officers. That part was just stupid. If they wanted him in on it THAT bad then her superiors would have brought him in and properly debriefed him and given him instructions on what to do and not to do. He had absolutely no training at all on how to operate that deep undercover with other professionals, at least not on that large a scale. Can't believe that one either.
3) Time stamps would have explained a lot of things so I agree that there should have been some. But opening your mind and creating your own explanations don't always coincide. Even if there were time stamps they would have still have adjusted the entire cast (pregnant girl) to accurately fit in. They didn't so you can't formulate that explanation since nothing else will make sense.
4) I'll accept the explanation on the fighting however, gang members that deep would not hesitate at all to kill a rival gang member. In one instance they show his brother getting killed by his own people without them thinking twice. Yet a group of armed rival gang members are actually gonna fight...not at all. That would have turned into a bullet riddled blood bath.
5) The major car wreck was indeed a major car wreck. She would have been in very serious medical condition if that had happened. Get back to me when you watch it and tell me what you think...
6) I understand it's his brother but his brother was a murderer and drug dealer. I hate to say it but he got exactly what he deserved. As far as his g/f...they were engaged and he gets killed so she goes right back to hooking/smoking/drug use WHILE pregnant with his kid...come on man there no valid excuse for that...
Anyway, I like how you think. Thanks for the input...I hope to read more from you.
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