I'm not just talking about 'Sherlock' here and I think 'disgusting' is a bit harsh, but all the same, I do think this is becoming an increasingly tedious cliche in TV and cinema that men can't have close friendships without a motley of gay jokes following them around like a gaggle of tired and emotional drag queens. Anyone else? Am I overreacting?
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No I agree. But it's an agenda man. All the rise in gay and homosexuality And everything has been almost overwhelming and I think they are just trying to normalize it. I have no problem with Gay people by the way. But can't ignore the facts
shareWell, that's not normalizing it, though, is it? Deriding all male relationships as homosexual is just making a mockery of any connection men make as coming from the crotch. That doesn't particularly sound like acceptance to me.
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^^^ exactly!
This is why queerbaiting sucks. Making haha jokes out of gay situations is just making fun of gay men and their relationships, like the idea of gay love is funny. It's not advancement at all. It's the opposite.
Was there a gay joke in this last episode? I didn't hear it.
However I did notice the recurrence of that Moffat trope where all his prominent female characters seem to show bisexual tendencies (Amy Pond, River, Oswin/Clara, Jenny, Irene, Eurus, etc.)
Jim Moriarty made a little speech about sleeping with both of his bodyguards and then compared. How they were in bed.
Yeah the direct hint that Moriarty was having sex with his male body guards and that Sherlock's sister 'might or might not be bisexual' (which in itself is a standard TV trope for women these days) seems to have gone over everyone's head.
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Queerbaiting.
There's another thread on it which I put an answer to also http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1475582/board/thread/264744633?d=264744856#264744856
Can't stand it.
Creating faux relationships between characters is a cheap and easy way of developing an obsessive and loyal audience quickly.
In terms of homosexuality specifically, there are people who like the idea of their being a homosexual relationship portrayed in a similar manner to heterosexual relationships: two people who are compatible who fall in love. The love story is secondary and there is more to these people than, 'they are gay.'
So, they hint that two characters like each other and the audience watch episode after episode and series after series hoping to see their ship fulfilled.
It never happens because they don't want to isolate other shippers (i.e. in this case, say, MollyxSherlock fans) or the fans that see it purely as friendship.
They don't even have to take responsibility for what they do. The fans of this pairing are portrayed as stupid or deluded and are mocked. The writers never have to explain their idiot gay jokes or why they keep setting up characters like a couple.
The moriarty thing annoyed. Me. Wouldn't have made more sense to have sebastian Moran as his guard
Relax. It's a natural reaction. In the 21st century, when two unrelated men are VERY close and live together when they don't have to and are older than university students, what else is the first thing that would come to mind?
"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"
No, it isn't, it's an unfounded assumption. After John moved out, Sherlock shared the hosue with Mrs Hudson, did I hear any jokes about him banging grannies? I did not.
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No, it isn't, it's an unfounded assumption. After John moved out, Sherlock shared the hosue with Mrs Hudson, did I hear any jokes about him banging grannies? I did not.
Is two flatmates having sex just because common? Nope. Anyway, I don't give a rat-sh!t in a rusty tin bucket for people's assumptions or probabilities, what I said was that the jokes were getting to be tiresome and cliched.
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Is two flatmates having sex just because common? Nope.
Anyway, I don't give a rat-sh!t in a rusty tin bucket for people's assumptions or probabilities, what I said was that the jokes were getting to be tiresome and cliched.
Well, Mrs Hudson has always lived there. She is their landlady. She has her own flat, whereas John and Sherlock shared a flat together. (Not saying that makes them gay, just pointing out the difference between the two situations.)
shareUm maybe the actual reason that it happened in the show...John couldn't afford a place on his army pension and sherlock wasn't exactly rolling in cash as he doesn't get paid for the detective stuff and a mutual friend saw they both needed a place so introduced them. Just because your minds in the gutter doesn't make it true
shareUm maybe the actual reason that it happened in the show...John couldn't afford a place on his army pension and sherlock wasn't exactly rolling in cash as he doesn't get paid for the detective stuff and a mutual friend saw they both needed a place so introduced them. Just because your minds in the gutter doesn't make it true
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What? two unrelated people of university age and the same gender live together ALL THE TIME. Typically, it's to reduce costs. That's the first thing that would come to mind.
shareNot so much gay jokes as audience fandom shipping them "johnlock". I think it's silly in this context but it's not like the show is doing it. If fans want to fantasize about them who cares? Women had to get used to men drooling over and sexualizing every female character in pretty much any movie without it affecting our ability to watch the show.
shareShipping is one thing, but I'd prefer it not be pandered to in-universe. Although I will admit, 'Elementary' has a female Watson, and the old 'When are they going to bang?' question follows that show around; the 'Harry & Sally' rule is getting tiresome as well.
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You gays are so easily triggered.
shareI think the gay jokes were more prevalent in the first 2 seasons but not this season. It seems the writers have realized they may have been guilty of gay-baiting and eased off.
And they are not living together. At the end, John is in his own home and they are both watching the Mary's video in John's home.
What is a emotional drag queen? I think you mean to say fag hags and yes, the ladies like to see two boys kiss and LGBT people like to be represented. Don't blame us, blame the creators for queerbaiting.
shareWhat is a emotional drag queen?
I think you mean to say fag hags...
...and yes, the ladies like to see two boys kiss and LGBT people like to be represented.
Don't blame us, blame the creators for queerbaiting.
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