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a mess and a complete ignorance of geography


Besides being an utterly boring mess I have yet to see a movie with such a blatant ignorance of geography.

Jungle in the north of Mexico? Mayan temples within sight of the US-border just across the Rio Bravo? Nothing of that. Nada. It's a moddafuggin desert up there.

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I enjoyed the movie, but the temples are a pretty ridiculous mistake. Either that, or they're supposed to symbolize something. I can't figure it out...

As for the jungles and the massive river, I don't think that was a goof. Don't forget that as soon as they crossed the border, they were back in the desert. I think that implies that the infection caused the area to turn into a very lush, humid, jungle area.

I don't know if I support the idea that aliens could create a river; but check out the image below:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c212/Sosen/infectedzone.jpg

That dark brown line could definitely be the river.


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it's ridiculous to get hung up on geography mistakes in a movie, especially an allegorical science fiction movie

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I hardly see how any of this applies to the quality of the movie. Its a beautifully shot and directed film. Its not the Alien franchise. If you wanted action you should have reconsidered watching a low budget indie film. As for the mistakes in geography, the all on-location sets were much more intriguing and gorgeous than any desert which would have been more accurate.

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Honestly, when you've been around the U.S.-Mexico border and you know what it looks like, it's more than a little distracting to the flow of the film when you see a couple of temples and a jungle next to it. Imagine a film that takes place in New York City, but there's palm trees, shrub, and hills everywhere.


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Such a film exists, it's called "The Lost Future". :P

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So you wouldn't have a problem watching a sci-fi movie that placed the White House in the Tibetan mountains?

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So you wouldn't have a problem watching a sci-fi movie that placed the White House in the Tibetan mountains?

no problem at all

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sorry, that is just ignorant speaking

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I couldn't disagree more. First, the geography mistakes made the beginning of the movie downright confusing--I kept getting contradictory messages about where the characters were and where they were trying to go.

And when a movie is "allegorical," its setting is all the more important because all aspects might have symbolic significance.

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I thought I was taking crazy pills. Okay so we start out in "San Jose, Central America", I assumed it was Costa Rica. But then the map at the train station mostly shows northern Mexico. And then after they get off the train the woman is showing them a map and pointing at Yucatan Peninsula. I kind of get the impression that the film makers think Central America and Mexico are the same thing.

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yeah is like watching avatar and debating the fauna of pandora, its a *beep* movie, and a scifi one, deal with whatever the *beep* geographical mistakes they make

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Well... Try to think the dialog:
"It's different to look at america from ouside...
Being Just outside of it so close and look at it.."...
Now... Does a pyramid justifies the LOOK??? How can you show "the seventh" wonder from just proxy outside point of observation... oh-oh... and isn;t it the pyramid itself a wonder of the world???
At least i find it allegorical... And yes. I;m not from within U.S. of A.

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the great pyramid of giza is one of the seven wonders, actually the only surviving wonder of the ancient world...there is not, and never has been, one of the wonders in mexico

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I think he was refering to Chichen Itza which was namend one of the "New Seven Wonders of the World"...

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Either that, or they're supposed to symbolize something. I can't figure it out...


The movie shows us the ruins of an Ancient Temple and then the ruins of an American town like back to back. It seems to be implying a parallel between people like Cortez and the aliens themselves.

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Good point

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Ignorance of Geography? Really??

I know what you mean, yet you seem to be hung-up by that point.

I have to ask?

Is that all you got out of if the film?

If so you are missing the bigger picture.

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Yes, this is all I could scratch from it. There is no bigger picture in this film, because nothing happens in the film.

The only emotion one can get is the headshaking disbelief of seeing pyramids and a jungle across the texan border which are actually 2000km away from there - plus a long list of ridiculous misconceptions throughout the whole movie which I am not going to list, because even writing these words about this film is a waste of precious time.

I rather prefer to be stuck in traffic than to elaborate on this anti-film... talking about traffic: Would you love a movie that plays in the UK in which cars are driving on the right side of the street and the island is bordering to France to the west with no channel in between? If you do Monstes might be just the right movie for you.

But for me this movie is a perfect example of arrogant ignorance or just sheer stupidity if the filmmakers really didn't know any better.. my guess is that they fall in the first category.

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The only why I'm responding is because I read your previous posts what little there is
All you do is Diss
Stir up the pot like a child
and I will treat as such.

Time out for you for you pet.



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whooo go vapour trail!!!

I was going to say something along those lines but not as bluntly!!





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plus a long list of ridiculous misconceptions throughout the whole movie which I am not going to list
Generally, when people make comments like this, what they are really saying is that they don't have anything to list, and when immediately followed up with something like "waste of precious time," it's meant to end the conversation before someone who does know what they're talking about discovers the commenter has no idea.

Then, after remaking how much of a waste of precious time it is, goes on further in another paragraph wasting more of their supposedly precious time.

It's uncanny.

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I thought that geography had been subordinated to allusions to other films - Apocalypse Now (Heart of Darkness really), The African Queen and all the usual racist Hollywood suspects (ironically speaking).

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What, you mean when you cross the border from Mexico you aren't on part of the Gulf coast ravaged by Katrina?

Yes, the geography was a bit messed up but so what? The movie was obviously made with a very limited budget, but what they lacked in money they made up for with creativity.

I was really surprised at how much I enjoyed this movie... no it's not Aliens or 2001, but it's not a over hyped, overpriced mess like the so called "War of the Worlds" movie of a few years ago either.

If any of the people involved with making that movie read this I'd like to tell them good job and thanks.

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Having grown up 30min from the Mexican border, I was rolling at the mistakes in the movie. But, show some mercy, the filmakers are British and they are hopelessly pathetic when it comes to US geography. I've run across some hilarious ignorant Brit stories-like thinking they can drive across the US in a day. These dopey Brits landed in Miami and planned to drive to California in a day. Of course, at the end of the first day they were barely out of Florida.

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No ones that thick.

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Kinda like the americans who think they can visit the whole of the UK in one day?

The ones who have served in a pub asking how to get to London when theyre on the A6 and near Preston in the NorthWest?

The ones who told me my accent was cute and wanted to buy my bike for 'biking to london by canals'


Those Americans?






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Brendan Fraser

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::nice::


It's only taken me months to read this... Ha ha
:-)

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Or the yanks arriving in Sydney and deciding they can drive to the great barrier reef in an afternoon. Sure just up the road mate, you can't miss it.

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Haha. Sorry for the fact Americans are so stupid. I hope someone irradiates his testicles so he can't have babies.

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This. ^5 Good job putting my fellow ignorant ass American in his place. You win a biscuit, best I can offer you is purloined Jammie Dodgers sent by my pen pall.

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Americans complaining about other nations being geographically deficient. Priceless!

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Made by Brits? That explains the pure suckiness of it.

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I know it doesn't fit the stereotype but there really are smart Americans and there really are dumb people from other countries. It doesn't occur very often, but it DOES happen.

And they are ALL on the internet.

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That post was in the top 20 of "Most Ignorant Things Sh!t out of the Mouths of IMDB Members" I've ever read. Do you really think the English are THAT ignorant? Honey, you're the ignorant one here. I doubt you could do much better on Geography other than make such vastly ignorant and inane comments such as "The British are so stupid that they landed in Florida and thought they could drive to California in 24 hours but it took them 24 hours to drive the length of the Florida Panhandle." Please, put magnets on your computer, clamp your balls in a vice and ruin them so you can A. never post again and B. never raise your children to be as ignorant as you.

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Sorry about the "thread necrofilia", but I just wanted to point this out:

The current "record" for driving across the US, is 28 hours 50 minutes. This was from Red Ball garage in Manhattan to Portofino Hotel in Redondo Beach, California about 2 weeks ago. Look it up, it's all over the interwebs.

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Almost as dopey as inferring the intelligence (or lack thereof) of a country of 64 million people from a handful of filmmakers.

Ignorance isn't culturally specific:

"Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease" George Bush (it is of course a continent).

"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize." Hank Johnson - clearly needs a basic lesson in geography/geology - given that he thinks islands float (!!!)

"We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid that it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border." check an atlas Mr John McCain!

"I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix." Dan Quayle supposedly grew up in Phoenix and still has no idea where it is!

"Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go." Barack Obama - bad at Geography.....or maths?

"The people of Peru, I think, deserve better." Dick Cheney. A noble sentiment you might say - except he was addressing Hugo Chavez at the time, with the intention of criticising his treatment of the people of Venezuela.

You want more? When polled by the National Geographic Society back in 2006, 62 percent of U.S. surveyed were unable to locate Iraq on a map, 75 percent were unable to locate Israel, and 47 percent could not find the Indian subcontinent. Nearly half of the Americans polled didn't know where Mississippi was!

So - given that ignorant people exist in EVERY country - how about we steer clear of unnecessary inter-country prejudices ok?





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Like Americans who try to cross the Canadian border in July with snow skis on their roof?

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I know why people get upset because of geographical mistakes but did you ever consider that this is a movie? Therefor let your imagination run wild specially being sci-fi and all. I mean just think of it as an alternate earth. If it would've been a biography of some kind or based on true facts then I'll be damned for thse mistakes. Come on people loosen up and learn to watch different sorts of movies. I was expecting the all sci-fi action crap that hollywood sells us, but this movie was a marvelous surprise so different and no patriotic *beep* hero thing we get to see non stop.

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Seriously?! You can't have a jungle in "the north of Mexico" or "Mayan" temples in sight of the US-border, but you can have massive octopus-like aliens laying eggs in trees and mating in the oceans. Dude, get a clue!!!

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There are two clues as to why this could be so - it's set in the future and that possibly the wall was built to keep out the aliens from the infected zone, making it much further south than the present day US-Mex border. Or maybe just try to exercise a little suspension of disbelief in an otherwise excellent movie.

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